AZ vs FL vs NC vs TX for dirtbike riding?

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Hey guys. I currently live in Massachusetts and am really sick of long winters and limited places to ride.

I'm possibly looking to relocate to one of the 3 states this spring (Arizona, Florida, Texas or North Carolina ). Which state/area do you feel offers the best freeriding and MX track oprions?

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9/3/2015 7:55am
of the three you listed, Florida is the best.

no state tax, cheaper cost of living than AZ,

NC has a low cost of living, as low if not lower than FL, but there aren't even half as many tracks as FL. (hog heaven damned near makes it worth it, but he is hardly open anymore)

AZ is a cool place to live for every other reason than motocross.... but the cost of living is higher, and the track count is lower. you'd probably have the easiest time finding a job in AZ, although the cost of living is the highest of the 3. That's usually how it works.

Good luck with your move, hope you enjoy America's Wang. FL runs MX, CA just thinks it does.
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9/3/2015 8:03am
Too hot in FL and AZ. Come join us in NC.
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9/3/2015 8:04am
I'd definitely go with North Carolina, cost of living is far less then anything in the north east and the dirt there is awesome and you've got a much wider variety of it then in florida. I've lived down south most winters over the past 5 years and there are a ton of tracks in The carolinas, the best part is you're not driving 8 hours to get to other states and tracks to ride. Florida tracks are wayyyy more spread out. If you live in lets say Charlotte area, there are 6-8 places to ride within 1-3 hours drive and thats just public tracks! Add in the trail riding the area has and you've got yourself dirtbike heaven. IMO the Carolinas are the best place on the east coast for riding.
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9/3/2015 8:05am
Hot, hot and humid, just right

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mikemxbike4
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9/3/2015 8:10am
Hmmm interesting replies so far guys. Ive lived in AZ for about 5 years and can deal with dry heat. Job market in AZ is shakey, however. One thing I like about it is that there is every type of riding imaginable from desert in PHX area to singletrack in the woods by Flagstaff.

I've visited Raleigh NC this past weekend to check it out and everywhere we went in NC had pretty much the same landscape. FL seemed the same way as well
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9/3/2015 8:13am
FL is pretty boring landscape wise besides certain areas.

I'd go for NC for the badass trail riding. There's a couple sand pits around that feel similar (not quite as good though) to the northeast pits and there's good tracks around as well if you move to the right spot.

And weather is nice as hell during the summer
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9/3/2015 8:19am
If I moved to NC, I'd go to Raleigh area. West Palm beach area in FL or Phoenix /Scottsdale area in AZ.
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9/3/2015 8:25am
NC is good but I may be biased since I live here..

Brushy Mtn Motorsports Park
Hog Heaven MX
Brown Mountain OHV
Uwharrie National Recreation Trail
Devils Ridge MX
North Carolina Motorsports Park
Silver Creek MX
Daniels Ridge MX
County Line MX
Center Road MX
MX 421
Cathy's Creek MX
Wide Open MX
East Bend MX
Windy Hill MX
Made for Play MX
Zoo City
NCHSA harescramble series
Mideast Harescramble series
SETRA has a couple races
GNCC has a couple of races

Many others. There are a lot of private tracks and trails not listed as well. Head to Brushy Mtn or Brown mountain and youll be able to meet some people that have land and trails.
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If I moved to NC, I'd go to Raleigh area. West Palm beach area in FL or Phoenix /Scottsdale area in AZ.
Im in Durham BTW
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9/3/2015 8:31am
Oh ok. Havent made it ot there but I know it's close to Raleigh.

Seems like quite a few options for MX tracks in Durham/Raleigh area.
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9/3/2015 8:35am
Im really surprised how many votes NC is getting. Figured FL would get the most.
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9/3/2015 8:39am
Oh ok. Havent made it ot there but I know it's close to Raleigh.

Seems like quite a few options for MX tracks in Durham/Raleigh area.
Not Raleigh/Durham but those listed were in NC..
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9/3/2015 8:45am Edited Date/Time 9/3/2015 9:05am
Anybody from AZ or TX to pitch in?
mikemxbike4
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9/3/2015 9:09am Edited Date/Time 9/3/2015 9:10am
Also, what are some good,areas in TX for riding and jobs (I'm a mechanical engineer)?
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9/3/2015 9:13am
Also, what are some good,areas in TX for riding and jobs (I'm a mechanical engineer)?
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9/3/2015 9:37am
I've lived in AZ most of my life aside from 6 years in SoCal. SoCal was awesome for the variety of tracks and year-round riding weather. Problem is...SoCal.

As for AZ, we have a handful of tracks in the valley and they are mostly fair and sometimes decent (ACP being the best) but there will never be one of those destination tracks here. Dirt just can't withstand the summer bake.

ET Motopark
Canyon Raceway
Arizona Cycle Park
Motoland
Ocotillo Raceway

There is endless desert riding. It will take you a while to find the "spots" as not many people are willing to share the good stuff. I'll tell you this, there are places out here that you CANNOT beat after rain. So good.

Weather - Lots of people complain about the heat. Yes for 4 months it's freakin hot. If you want to ride during this time of year you're looking at leaving the house around 5am or riding weeknights at Canyon. The good news is there are 8 other months that are pretty dang good for riding.

AZ cost of living is pretty reasonable if you ask me. There are plenty of burbs with cheap homes and they tend to be closer to the tracks. TONS to do in this state and all pretty accessible: moto, desert riding, woods riding, snowboarding, MTB, hiking, lakes, rivers.

Never ridden or lived in NC or FL but there's my $0.02.
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9/3/2015 9:37am Edited Date/Time 9/3/2015 9:38am
NC is good but I may be biased since I live here.. Brushy Mtn Motorsports Park Hog Heaven MX Brown Mountain OHV Uwharrie National Recreation Trail...
NC is good but I may be biased since I live here..

Brushy Mtn Motorsports Park
Hog Heaven MX
Brown Mountain OHV
Uwharrie National Recreation Trail
Devils Ridge MX
North Carolina Motorsports Park
Silver Creek MX
Daniels Ridge MX
County Line MX
Center Road MX
MX 421
Cathy's Creek MX
Wide Open MX
East Bend MX
Windy Hill MX
Made for Play MX
Zoo City
NCHSA harescramble series
Mideast Harescramble series
SETRA has a couple races
GNCC has a couple of races

Many others. There are a lot of private tracks and trails not listed as well. Head to Brushy Mtn or Brown mountain and youll be able to meet some people that have land and trails.
I was going to say, there are a ton of places to ride in NC and don't forget Lake Sugar Tree in Axton, VA and Birch Creek in Danville, VA. They are both right across the boarder.


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9/3/2015 9:40am
NC is good but I may be biased since I live here.. Brushy Mtn Motorsports Park Hog Heaven MX Brown Mountain OHV Uwharrie National Recreation Trail...
NC is good but I may be biased since I live here..

Brushy Mtn Motorsports Park
Hog Heaven MX
Brown Mountain OHV
Uwharrie National Recreation Trail
Devils Ridge MX
North Carolina Motorsports Park
Silver Creek MX
Daniels Ridge MX
County Line MX
Center Road MX
MX 421
Cathy's Creek MX
Wide Open MX
East Bend MX
Windy Hill MX
Made for Play MX
Zoo City
NCHSA harescramble series
Mideast Harescramble series
SETRA has a couple races
GNCC has a couple of races

Many others. There are a lot of private tracks and trails not listed as well. Head to Brushy Mtn or Brown mountain and youll be able to meet some people that have land and trails.
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I was going to say, there are a ton of places to ride in NC and don't forget Lake Sugar Tree in Axton, VA and Birch...
I was going to say, there are a ton of places to ride in NC and don't forget Lake Sugar Tree in Axton, VA and Birch Creek in Danville, VA. They are both right across the boarder.


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I as going to include but decided going with NC only. You are right, both of those are good tracks as well and not far from the area the OP is looking at.
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9/3/2015 9:53am
I am also shocked not more votes for FL. But NC is a great place with good weather and mountains! The state is also doing well with lowering taxes and bringing in new business. Not to mention in the winter you could always take a trip south to FL and hit up some nice tracks like Gatorback. So my vote is also NC.
9/3/2015 10:01am
Also, what are some good,areas in TX for riding and jobs (I'm a mechanical engineer)?
I'm a biased Dallasite. Decent amount of tracks about an hour to 1 1/2 hours outside the city in every direction, just depends on where you live. You have Oklahoma to pick from to if you don't mind a 3-4 hour drive.

Dallas is hot (+100) during mid July to mid August and freeze warnings during January-February but places are still open. You can ride year round, just have to be smart during the summer.

North of Dallas is where all the money is going right now. Frisco, McKinney, Allen, The Colony, Plano, Little Elm. Urban sprawl around Dallas has made a lot of suburbs and communities so there are plenty of places to look for a job. Is anyone hiring? I can't answer that.

In and around Dallas the tracks I first think of are:
Oak Hill
Village Creek
Underground MX
Swan MX
Johnsonville
River Valley
Buffalo Creek
Burleson
Greenville
956 Facility
Badlands
Freestone is about halfway between Dallas and Houston
Lots of XC riding facilities also.
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9/3/2015 10:05am Edited Date/Time 9/3/2015 11:58am
Anybody from AZ or TX to pitch in?
AZ is pretty thin on moto tracks in the summer - and as far racing goes, what races there are, are night races. We've been going to Socal pretty much every other week to race and that in a way is a good thing about AZ: you're only five or six hours from15-20 good SoCal tracks. As for AZ tracks, at least in the Phoenix area, we've got ET (now closed for the summer), ACP, Canyon, and Motoland. ACP is my favorite - it's in a repurposed sand quarry kind of like LACR but half scale. Bobby White runs it and does an excellent job of keeping it fresh and challenging. ET is also really good and the guys running it use a couple feet deep of stable bedding for a unique-for-AZ pretty deep track. Canyon has been here forever and has great flow and also uses generous amounts of stable bedding for a killer track surface. Although I'm not into single track, my son and a couple friends are, and there are literally thousands of miles of trails. I have to say that my first inclination was to say that AZ totally sucks so that more people don't find out how cool Arizona is, but if you decide to come here, welcome!
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9/3/2015 10:09am
Texas is pretty much wide open with little woodsy areas/ singletrack riding right?
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Anybody from AZ or TX to pitch in?
Daystar99 wrote:
AZ is pretty thin on moto tracks in the summer - and as far racing goes, what races there are, are night races. We've been going...
AZ is pretty thin on moto tracks in the summer - and as far racing goes, what races there are, are night races. We've been going to Socal pretty much every other week to race and that in a way is a good thing about AZ: you're only five or six hours from15-20 good SoCal tracks. As for AZ tracks, at least in the Phoenix area, we've got ET (now closed for the summer), ACP, Canyon, and Motoland. ACP is my favorite - it's in a repurposed sand quarry kind of like LACR but half scale. Bobby White runs it and does an excellent job of keeping it fresh and challenging. ET is also really good and the guys running it use a couple feet deep of stable bedding for a unique-for-AZ pretty deep track. Canyon has been here forever and has great flow and also uses generous amounts of stable bedding for a killer track surface. Although I'm not into single track, my son and a couple friends are, and there are literally thousands of miles of trails. I have to say that my first inclination was to say that AZ totally sucks so that more people don't find out how cool Arizona is, but if you decide to come here, welcome!
Thank you for feedback. As I have mentioned, I've lived in AZ for 5 years in the past, so I know how many trail riding options there are. Crown King and Flagstaff trails are my favorite
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9/3/2015 10:26am
As far as racing, I dont race. Just ride MX tracks, natural terrain jumps and occasional FMX ramps
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9/3/2015 10:26am
Texas is pretty much wide open with little woodsy areas/ singletrack riding right?
In East Texas, it's what we call a pine curtain. The entire region is all thick wooded, but not many public single track areas to ride. The only legit OHV single track is the Sam Houston National Forest an hour north of Houston.

For MX, I drive to Dallas, or go to Desoto MX park in LA. Sometimes I will go to jumpstart mx in new salem, but he really needs a watering system.

There is a great off road series in the south central area called TORCS. That would be awesome to do if you have a job in Houston.
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9/3/2015 10:29am
NC is good but I may be biased since I live here.. Brushy Mtn Motorsports Park Hog Heaven MX Brown Mountain OHV Uwharrie National Recreation Trail...
NC is good but I may be biased since I live here..

Brushy Mtn Motorsports Park
Hog Heaven MX
Brown Mountain OHV
Uwharrie National Recreation Trail
Devils Ridge MX
North Carolina Motorsports Park
Silver Creek MX
Daniels Ridge MX
County Line MX
Center Road MX
MX 421
Cathy's Creek MX
Wide Open MX
East Bend MX
Windy Hill MX
Made for Play MX
Zoo City
NCHSA harescramble series
Mideast Harescramble series
SETRA has a couple races
GNCC has a couple of races

Many others. There are a lot of private tracks and trails not listed as well. Head to Brushy Mtn or Brown mountain and youll be able to meet some people that have land and trails.
Also over by the coast you've got JWTF, Half-Moon, Jackson Motocross park. South Carolina, club mx practice and training facility, South of the border, and another 6-8 in lower SC and northern Georgia, and Muddy Creek in Tennessee isnt too far depending on where you're located.

Florida is just too damn hot and humid for the normal moto guy and the tracks are just too spead out. The pros like it because they can build a facility and train in the heat. Not that the carolinas are cold but nothing like FL. and you can still get a taste of the seasons and you've got a ton of variety between the mountains and coast only being a few hours apart. Go to South Florida and its an 8 hour drive just to leave the state.
9/3/2015 10:30am
Florida is great, if you have your own track. Two state run ORV parks, and a handful of GOOD tracks that are worth the effort to get to.
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9/3/2015 10:34am Edited Date/Time 9/3/2015 10:51am
I didn't realize Texas was an option. My eye sight not to good right now after open heart surgery.
I'm from Tampa area and live in Austn tx.

Ummm Texas WAY better in every aspect, except moto, less riding areas than Florida. Dade City and Bithlo, way better Saturday night racing than any where else in the country
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9/3/2015 10:56am
By "way better" do you mean outdoor activities, jobs, entertainment, things to do?
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kkawboy14 wrote:
I didn't realize Texas was an option. My eye sight not to good right now after open heart surgery. I'm from Tampa area and live in...
I didn't realize Texas was an option. My eye sight not to good right now after open heart surgery.
I'm from Tampa area and live in Austn tx.

Ummm Texas WAY better in every aspect, except moto, less riding areas than Florida. Dade City and Bithlo, way better Saturday night racing than any where else in the country
Hope you get well soon by the,way!

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