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mx836 8/20/2015 7:12am
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#991 wrote:
So. How's the air up there?

"Girls or fun". Man's not a Camel. He can't live on water alone.
My comment had nothing to do with Kenny. It was about the vitards. I'm only slightly above average in the height department so I'd assume my air isn't much different than anyone else's. Wink
RichardLoots 8/20/2015 7:14am
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If they bought a Suzuki something is really wrong..

Damn shame either way.
exactly , to buy a stock bike and go from there shows there is something wrong ...and be faster on it says he was right too
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agn5009 8/20/2015 7:15am
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Everyone. Some, are throwing RCH under the bus because. What his old man says adds up. KR not denying it or even disputing it, didn't help...
Everyone. Some, are throwing RCH under the bus because. What his old man says adds up. KR not denying it or even disputing it, didn't help RCH Laughing . He's not exactly making an effort to pull them out of It's way. RCH were left looking like a Deer in the Bus's spot lights.

It's more about what KR didn't say.
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Well there were concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the time in to his training or bike set up...
Well there were concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the time in to his training or bike set up. Doesn't that add up too? You're only evaluating what his father said. That's it
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If It's fair to say "But he won on the KTM". It's fair to say, OK, assume. He must of being putting in the work.
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well. The team is giving 100% effort in rectifying the issues. The team is not the problem. The injuries and the struggles with him getting his desired settings is the problem. He's not happy his dad ran his mouth and says he lives a thousand miles away and has no idea.
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agn5009 wrote:
Well there were concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the time in to his training or bike set up...
Well there were concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the time in to his training or bike set up. Doesn't that add up too? You're only evaluating what his father said. That's it
#991 wrote:
If It's fair to say "But he won on the KTM". It's fair to say, OK, assume. He must of being putting in the work.
agn5009 wrote:
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well...
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well. The team is giving 100% effort in rectifying the issues. The team is not the problem. The injuries and the struggles with him getting his desired settings is the problem. He's not happy his dad ran his mouth and says he lives a thousand miles away and has no idea.
Read it in the other thread. Again. It's what he didn't say that says the most.

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#991 8/20/2015 7:17am
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#991 wrote:
So. How's the air up there?

"Girls or fun". Man's not a Camel. He can't live on water alone.
mx836 wrote:
My comment had nothing to do with Kenny. It was about the vitards. I'm only slightly above average in the height department so I'd assume my...
My comment had nothing to do with Kenny. It was about the vitards. I'm only slightly above average in the height department so I'd assume my air isn't much different than anyone else's. Wink
After that post. I'd suggest the air's a bit thin mate. My point floated right over your head.
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agn5009 wrote:
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well...
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well. The team is giving 100% effort in rectifying the issues. The team is not the problem. The injuries and the struggles with him getting his desired settings is the problem. He's not happy his dad ran his mouth and says he lives a thousand miles away and has no idea.
He doesn't exactly deny anything his dad said though does he?
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agn5009 8/20/2015 7:18am
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#991 wrote:
If It's fair to say "But he won on the KTM". It's fair to say, OK, assume. He must of being putting in the work.
agn5009 wrote:
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well...
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well. The team is giving 100% effort in rectifying the issues. The team is not the problem. The injuries and the struggles with him getting his desired settings is the problem. He's not happy his dad ran his mouth and says he lives a thousand miles away and has no idea.
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Read it in the other thread. Again. It's what he didn't say that says the most.
"Grasping at straws"
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agn5009 wrote:
Well there were concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the time in to his training or bike set up...
Well there were concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the time in to his training or bike set up. Doesn't that add up too? You're only evaluating what his father said. That's it
#991 wrote:
If It's fair to say "But he won on the KTM". It's fair to say, OK, assume. He must of being putting in the work.
agn5009 wrote:
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well...
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well. The team is giving 100% effort in rectifying the issues. The team is not the problem. The injuries and the struggles with him getting his desired settings is the problem. He's not happy his dad ran his mouth and says he lives a thousand miles away and has no idea.
Do you just read what you want to read?

"There has been concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the time in to his training or bike set up."

Did you just make this shit up off the top of your head? He was with Aldon last year, you think he wasn't putting in the time?


And the racer x interview was damage control. Combine what heiko said and what Kenny said and somewhere in the middle is the truth.
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Yep. Everyone seems to forget this. What happens when RC or Carey Hart come out and say Ken was lazy, didn't put in the time to...
Yep. Everyone seems to forget this. What happens when RC or Carey Hart come out and say Ken was lazy, didn't put in the time to train because of girls or fun or whatever, didn't know how to or want to set the bike up properly? What happens when it comes out that he was given the opportunity to have any and all resources available? Will vital explode again and chastise Ken and his father?
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Everyone also seems to forget that Roczen was winning GP's at 15 and was world champion at 17 under the guidance of his dad. He's not...
Everyone also seems to forget that Roczen was winning GP's at 15 and was world champion at 17 under the guidance of his dad. He's not an idiot, he knows what his kid needs
Are you really naive enough to think That his dad had any input On the bike with Pit around? Hell no I know that for a fact.
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agn5009 8/20/2015 7:23am
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#991 wrote:
If It's fair to say "But he won on the KTM". It's fair to say, OK, assume. He must of being putting in the work.
agn5009 wrote:
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well...
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well. The team is giving 100% effort in rectifying the issues. The team is not the problem. The injuries and the struggles with him getting his desired settings is the problem. He's not happy his dad ran his mouth and says he lives a thousand miles away and has no idea.
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Do you just read what you want to read? "There has been concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the...
Do you just read what you want to read?

"There has been concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the time in to his training or bike set up."

Did you just make this shit up off the top of your head? He was with Aldon last year, you think he wasn't putting in the time?


And the racer x interview was damage control. Combine what heiko said and what Kenny said and somewhere in the middle is the truth.
Search some past threads. It's been talked about many times. And those threads hold just as many facts as the shit storm thread about his father's accusations. And I'm pretty sure I am one of the few who is meeting in the middle. Like I previously said, there's most likely blame to be placed on both parties. And you're asking me if I only read what I want to read?
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agn5009 wrote:
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well...
Go read the racer x interview. I know you won't admit that you may have jumped to conclusions, but Ken pretty much explains it very well. The team is giving 100% effort in rectifying the issues. The team is not the problem. The injuries and the struggles with him getting his desired settings is the problem. He's not happy his dad ran his mouth and says he lives a thousand miles away and has no idea.
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Do you just read what you want to read? "There has been concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the...
Do you just read what you want to read?

"There has been concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the time in to his training or bike set up."

Did you just make this shit up off the top of your head? He was with Aldon last year, you think he wasn't putting in the time?


And the racer x interview was damage control. Combine what heiko said and what Kenny said and somewhere in the middle is the truth.
agn5009 wrote:
Search some past threads. It's been talked about many times. And those threads hold just as many facts as the shit storm thread about his father's...
Search some past threads. It's been talked about many times. And those threads hold just as many facts as the shit storm thread about his father's accusations. And I'm pretty sure I am one of the few who is meeting in the middle. Like I previously said, there's most likely blame to be placed on both parties. And you're asking me if I only read what I want to read?
So you're basing him not doing enough testing and not working hard enough because some idiots on this board thought so?

Man, you're dumber than I thought.
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hillbilly 8/20/2015 7:32am
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Truth is somewhere in the middle,

If he really bought a Suzuki then that screams big problems, 3 seconds faster,uh,over a lap or a moto?

Not jumping the uphill a millville says the forks were blowing thru the stroke. Scarry to ride a bike with no trust and changing things all the time.
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agn5009 8/20/2015 7:33am
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Gringoe wrote:
Do you just read what you want to read? "There has been concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the...
Do you just read what you want to read?

"There has been concerns stemming over the past couple years that Ken may not be putting the time in to his training or bike set up."

Did you just make this shit up off the top of your head? He was with Aldon last year, you think he wasn't putting in the time?


And the racer x interview was damage control. Combine what heiko said and what Kenny said and somewhere in the middle is the truth.
agn5009 wrote:
Search some past threads. It's been talked about many times. And those threads hold just as many facts as the shit storm thread about his father's...
Search some past threads. It's been talked about many times. And those threads hold just as many facts as the shit storm thread about his father's accusations. And I'm pretty sure I am one of the few who is meeting in the middle. Like I previously said, there's most likely blame to be placed on both parties. And you're asking me if I only read what I want to read?
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So you're basing him not doing enough testing and not working hard enough because some idiots on this board thought so? Man, you're dumber than I...
So you're basing him not doing enough testing and not working hard enough because some idiots on this board thought so?

Man, you're dumber than I thought.
No. Apparently you're the dumb one. You're not comprehending what I'm saying. I'm saying all these accusations hold the same weight. Which is nothing. They're all bull shit. None of us know exactly what the issues are. But people sure do act like they know. Nobody knows if it's Ken or RCH who is the problem. I am meeting in the middle saying there's probably some blame to place on both of them. I'm using those past threads on this forum as an example of how stupid some people who post here are. And you just proved my theory right about the stupidity here. Thank you.
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RG1 8/20/2015 7:35am
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Are you really naive enough to think That his dad had any input On the bike with Pit around? Hell no I know that for a...
Are you really naive enough to think That his dad had any input On the bike with Pit around? Hell no I know that for a fact.
He might have not had any input on the bike itself, but he was still heavily involved with Ken, in his training and everything. The main difference there was that they both trusted the guys they were working with, and they were happy that they were getting what they wanted and needed. I'm sure Heiko would have said exactly the same about them had the situation been the same as it is now.
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#991 8/20/2015 7:37am
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agn5009 wrote:
Search some past threads. It's been talked about many times. And those threads hold just as many facts as the shit storm thread about his father's...
Search some past threads. It's been talked about many times. And those threads hold just as many facts as the shit storm thread about his father's accusations. And I'm pretty sure I am one of the few who is meeting in the middle. Like I previously said, there's most likely blame to be placed on both parties. And you're asking me if I only read what I want to read?
Gringoe wrote:
So you're basing him not doing enough testing and not working hard enough because some idiots on this board thought so? Man, you're dumber than I...
So you're basing him not doing enough testing and not working hard enough because some idiots on this board thought so?

Man, you're dumber than I thought.
agn5009 wrote:
No. Apparently you're the dumb one. You're not comprehending what I'm saying. I'm saying all these accusations hold the same weight. Which is nothing. They're all...
No. Apparently you're the dumb one. You're not comprehending what I'm saying. I'm saying all these accusations hold the same weight. Which is nothing. They're all bull shit. None of us know exactly what the issues are. But people sure do act like they know. Nobody knows if it's Ken or RCH who is the problem. I am meeting in the middle saying there's probably some blame to place on both of them. I'm using those past threads on this forum as an example of how stupid some people who post here are. And you just proved my theory right about the stupidity here. Thank you.
Says the bloke who takes those threads and post with more than a grain of salt Laughing .

Quit while you're "behind" mate. I love Irony, but It's getting hard to watch.
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agn5009 8/20/2015 7:41am
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Gringoe wrote:
So you're basing him not doing enough testing and not working hard enough because some idiots on this board thought so? Man, you're dumber than I...
So you're basing him not doing enough testing and not working hard enough because some idiots on this board thought so?

Man, you're dumber than I thought.
agn5009 wrote:
No. Apparently you're the dumb one. You're not comprehending what I'm saying. I'm saying all these accusations hold the same weight. Which is nothing. They're all...
No. Apparently you're the dumb one. You're not comprehending what I'm saying. I'm saying all these accusations hold the same weight. Which is nothing. They're all bull shit. None of us know exactly what the issues are. But people sure do act like they know. Nobody knows if it's Ken or RCH who is the problem. I am meeting in the middle saying there's probably some blame to place on both of them. I'm using those past threads on this forum as an example of how stupid some people who post here are. And you just proved my theory right about the stupidity here. Thank you.
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Says the bloke who takes those threads and post with more than a grain of salt :laugh: . Quit while you're "behind" mate. I love Irony...
Says the bloke who takes those threads and post with more than a grain of salt Laughing .

Quit while you're "behind" mate. I love Irony, but It's getting hard to watch.
Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending.
1. I don't know what the issues are, and neither do you. There's been tons of accusations regarding both parties.
2. Ken seems like a good person with a good head on his shoulders.
3. I hope Ken and RCH do what's best for the both of them.

Is that easy enough for you two to understand? I'm not sure I can dumb it down any more honestly.
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Starcrossed 8/20/2015 7:44am
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He doesn't exactly deny anything his dad said though does he?
Just because Kenny didn't deny his father's assertions categorically, doesn't mean he affirms them. I think that the stance that Kenny is taking, and the comments he made about his father's allegations, as well as coming right out to address the situation, is proof enough that he doesn't agree with Heiko, and is not pleased about the article in the German magazine.
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#991 8/20/2015 7:45am
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agn5009 wrote:
No. Apparently you're the dumb one. You're not comprehending what I'm saying. I'm saying all these accusations hold the same weight. Which is nothing. They're all...
No. Apparently you're the dumb one. You're not comprehending what I'm saying. I'm saying all these accusations hold the same weight. Which is nothing. They're all bull shit. None of us know exactly what the issues are. But people sure do act like they know. Nobody knows if it's Ken or RCH who is the problem. I am meeting in the middle saying there's probably some blame to place on both of them. I'm using those past threads on this forum as an example of how stupid some people who post here are. And you just proved my theory right about the stupidity here. Thank you.
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Says the bloke who takes those threads and post with more than a grain of salt :laugh: . Quit while you're "behind" mate. I love Irony...
Says the bloke who takes those threads and post with more than a grain of salt Laughing .

Quit while you're "behind" mate. I love Irony, but It's getting hard to watch.
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Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending. 1. I don't know what...
Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending.
1. I don't know what the issues are, and neither do you. There's been tons of accusations regarding both parties.
2. Ken seems like a good person with a good head on his shoulders.
3. I hope Ken and RCH do what's best for the both of them.

Is that easy enough for you two to understand? I'm not sure I can dumb it down any more honestly.
Oh, I reckon you could. Don't sell yourself short Laughing

You read what you want. Problem is, you can't see what's written between the lines. Ironic you think we have comprehension Issues LMAO!

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#991 8/20/2015 7:48am
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RG1 wrote:
He doesn't exactly deny anything his dad said though does he?
Starcrossed wrote:
Just because Kenny didn't deny his father's assertions categorically, doesn't mean he affirms them. I think that the stance that Kenny is taking, and the comments...
Just because Kenny didn't deny his father's assertions categorically, doesn't mean he affirms them. I think that the stance that Kenny is taking, and the comments he made about his father's allegations, as well as coming right out to address the situation, is proof enough that he doesn't agree with Heiko, and is not pleased about the article in the German magazine.
As un-pleased as I'm sure he is. He didn't disagree. That speaks volumes. Death people herd it.
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agn5009 8/20/2015 7:54am
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Says the bloke who takes those threads and post with more than a grain of salt :laugh: . Quit while you're "behind" mate. I love Irony...
Says the bloke who takes those threads and post with more than a grain of salt Laughing .

Quit while you're "behind" mate. I love Irony, but It's getting hard to watch.
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Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending. 1. I don't know what...
Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending.
1. I don't know what the issues are, and neither do you. There's been tons of accusations regarding both parties.
2. Ken seems like a good person with a good head on his shoulders.
3. I hope Ken and RCH do what's best for the both of them.

Is that easy enough for you two to understand? I'm not sure I can dumb it down any more honestly.
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Oh, I reckon you could. Don't sell yourself short :laugh: You read what you want. Problem is, you can't see what's written between the lines. Ironic...
Oh, I reckon you could. Don't sell yourself short Laughing

You read what you want. Problem is, you can't see what's written between the lines. Ironic you think we have comprehension Issues LMAO!
You sound like a complete moron. How can anyone disagree with any of my 3 points? Oh, that's right you're completely disregarding my 3 points and attacking my mental capacities, which in reality goes back to my "grasping at straws" quote I had earlier. Keep going, I'll continue laughing at you while you continue to ignore the actual conversation at hand. Go ahead, try to dispute any of my 3 points then maybe I will actually respect your view on the situation.
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There is obviously some truth in what Ken's dad said or else he wouldn't have said it. Obviously he's not making it up. He may be over exaggerating on some thing (3 seconds a lap faster on stock Suzuki) but for the most part I'm sure his depiction is very accurate and he and his son have probably had numerous conversations over the months on the exact same topics and have had the same conclusions.

I respect Ken's statements in RacerX and he did not dispute anything his Dad really said. Ken was just much more diplomatic about it all and that speaks volumes to Ken's character. He's a pros pro.

This only gets fixed by RC and CH. The racing team itself has a total lack of leadership. I'm sure there are very skilled and qualified guys on staff but from the outside they almost look too comfortable in their jobs. It almost has an Entourage feeling to it. Is the staff on this team putting in the hours needed to make Ken feel comfortable on the bike? Are they hungry in their jobs? I can't say for sure. I assume they are working hard. It just appears from the outside that some of the other teams are working even harder and have true leaders on the staff. Decoster, Larocco, Lamson, etc.

Who's leading the RCH team?

Exactly.
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agn5009 wrote:
No. Apparently you're the dumb one. You're not comprehending what I'm saying. I'm saying all these accusations hold the same weight. Which is nothing. They're all...
No. Apparently you're the dumb one. You're not comprehending what I'm saying. I'm saying all these accusations hold the same weight. Which is nothing. They're all bull shit. None of us know exactly what the issues are. But people sure do act like they know. Nobody knows if it's Ken or RCH who is the problem. I am meeting in the middle saying there's probably some blame to place on both of them. I'm using those past threads on this forum as an example of how stupid some people who post here are. And you just proved my theory right about the stupidity here. Thank you.
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Says the bloke who takes those threads and post with more than a grain of salt :laugh: . Quit while you're "behind" mate. I love Irony...
Says the bloke who takes those threads and post with more than a grain of salt Laughing .

Quit while you're "behind" mate. I love Irony, but It's getting hard to watch.
agn5009 wrote:
Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending. 1. I don't know what...
Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending.
1. I don't know what the issues are, and neither do you. There's been tons of accusations regarding both parties.
2. Ken seems like a good person with a good head on his shoulders.
3. I hope Ken and RCH do what's best for the both of them.

Is that easy enough for you two to understand? I'm not sure I can dumb it down any more honestly.
Accusations? I'm basing my thoughts off of the 2 interviews I read in the last 2 days from ken roczen and his father, and kens podium interviews the whole outdoor season where he politely said the bike sucked every weekend usually.

This is pretty cut and dry to me. Heiko is
not making this shit up for the hell of it, and Ken not disagreeing at all with anything he said other than "the team try 100%" speaks volumes to me.

So just from those couple of things any person with half a brain would have a pretty good understanding of what's going on.

I don't want to know your personal stance btw, this isn't gay marriage.
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Starcrossed 8/20/2015 8:00am
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As un-pleased as I'm sure he is. He didn't disagree. That speaks volumes. Death people herd it.
I'm sure the issues exist, but it's still basically a one-sided story coming from a guy who already has a history of not communicating well, or getting along with, the management of the teams that Kenny has been on. At some point in time Heiko will realize that he his hampering his son's progress and adding additional burdens for a very young man to have to deal with. I certainly know very little about the situation on the whole, but can see the negative impact that the father is having on the son. Tough situation for Kenny, who is handling this admirably, IMO.
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Lets not forget this family has suffered through the loss of a loved one, a 10 year old boy that, coupled with injuries and high expectations it's easy to see how frustrations can boil over and things get blown out of proportion.
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agn5009 8/20/2015 8:06am
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#991 wrote:
Says the bloke who takes those threads and post with more than a grain of salt :laugh: . Quit while you're "behind" mate. I love Irony...
Says the bloke who takes those threads and post with more than a grain of salt Laughing .

Quit while you're "behind" mate. I love Irony, but It's getting hard to watch.
agn5009 wrote:
Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending. 1. I don't know what...
Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending.
1. I don't know what the issues are, and neither do you. There's been tons of accusations regarding both parties.
2. Ken seems like a good person with a good head on his shoulders.
3. I hope Ken and RCH do what's best for the both of them.

Is that easy enough for you two to understand? I'm not sure I can dumb it down any more honestly.
Gringoe wrote:
Accusations? I'm basing my thoughts off of the 2 interviews I read in the last 2 days from ken roczen and his father, and kens podium...
Accusations? I'm basing my thoughts off of the 2 interviews I read in the last 2 days from ken roczen and his father, and kens podium interviews the whole outdoor season where he politely said the bike sucked every weekend usually.

This is pretty cut and dry to me. Heiko is
not making this shit up for the hell of it, and Ken not disagreeing at all with anything he said other than "the team try 100%" speaks volumes to me.

So just from those couple of things any person with half a brain would have a pretty good understanding of what's going on.

I don't want to know your personal stance btw, this isn't gay marriage.
Obviously you did want my personal stance. You responded to my post. If you don't want me to respond and give you my feelings on the matter then don't respond to my posts. Amazing, that's how a forum tends to work. Hard concept, I know.
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Gringoe 8/20/2015 8:17am
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agn5009 wrote:
Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending. 1. I don't know what...
Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending.
1. I don't know what the issues are, and neither do you. There's been tons of accusations regarding both parties.
2. Ken seems like a good person with a good head on his shoulders.
3. I hope Ken and RCH do what's best for the both of them.

Is that easy enough for you two to understand? I'm not sure I can dumb it down any more honestly.
Gringoe wrote:
Accusations? I'm basing my thoughts off of the 2 interviews I read in the last 2 days from ken roczen and his father, and kens podium...
Accusations? I'm basing my thoughts off of the 2 interviews I read in the last 2 days from ken roczen and his father, and kens podium interviews the whole outdoor season where he politely said the bike sucked every weekend usually.

This is pretty cut and dry to me. Heiko is
not making this shit up for the hell of it, and Ken not disagreeing at all with anything he said other than "the team try 100%" speaks volumes to me.

So just from those couple of things any person with half a brain would have a pretty good understanding of what's going on.

I don't want to know your personal stance btw, this isn't gay marriage.
agn5009 wrote:
Obviously you did want my personal stance. You responded to my post. If you don't want me to respond and give you my feelings on the...
Obviously you did want my personal stance. You responded to my post. If you don't want me to respond and give you my feelings on the matter then don't respond to my posts. Amazing, that's how a forum tends to work. Hard concept, I know.
Completely avoid everything I said haha shocker. Have a good day!
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agn5009 8/20/2015 8:27am
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Gringoe wrote:
Accusations? I'm basing my thoughts off of the 2 interviews I read in the last 2 days from ken roczen and his father, and kens podium...
Accusations? I'm basing my thoughts off of the 2 interviews I read in the last 2 days from ken roczen and his father, and kens podium interviews the whole outdoor season where he politely said the bike sucked every weekend usually.

This is pretty cut and dry to me. Heiko is
not making this shit up for the hell of it, and Ken not disagreeing at all with anything he said other than "the team try 100%" speaks volumes to me.

So just from those couple of things any person with half a brain would have a pretty good understanding of what's going on.

I don't want to know your personal stance btw, this isn't gay marriage.
agn5009 wrote:
Obviously you did want my personal stance. You responded to my post. If you don't want me to respond and give you my feelings on the...
Obviously you did want my personal stance. You responded to my post. If you don't want me to respond and give you my feelings on the matter then don't respond to my posts. Amazing, that's how a forum tends to work. Hard concept, I know.
Gringoe wrote:
Completely avoid everything I said haha shocker. Have a good day!
What exactly are you arguing? I never said any of that was wrong except the fact that I think blame is on both Ken and RCH. Do you want me to keep arguing about that one little point? I already said that's how I feel. Want me to say it again for you? Do you want to try and argue any of my 3 points? I haven't seen you do that yet.
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#991 8/20/2015 8:50am
8/20/2015 8:50am Edited Date/Time 8/20/2015 9:03am
agn5009 wrote:
Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending. 1. I don't know what...
Here's a quick run down of my personal stance on the situation since you two are not very good at comprehending.
1. I don't know what the issues are, and neither do you. There's been tons of accusations regarding both parties.
2. Ken seems like a good person with a good head on his shoulders.
3. I hope Ken and RCH do what's best for the both of them.

Is that easy enough for you two to understand? I'm not sure I can dumb it down any more honestly.
#991 wrote:
Oh, I reckon you could. Don't sell yourself short :laugh: You read what you want. Problem is, you can't see what's written between the lines. Ironic...
Oh, I reckon you could. Don't sell yourself short Laughing

You read what you want. Problem is, you can't see what's written between the lines. Ironic you think we have comprehension Issues LMAO!
agn5009 wrote:
You sound like a complete moron. How can anyone disagree with any of my 3 points? Oh, that's right you're completely disregarding my 3 points and...
You sound like a complete moron. How can anyone disagree with any of my 3 points? Oh, that's right you're completely disregarding my 3 points and attacking my mental capacities, which in reality goes back to my "grasping at straws" quote I had earlier. Keep going, I'll continue laughing at you while you continue to ignore the actual conversation at hand. Go ahead, try to dispute any of my 3 points then maybe I will actually respect your view on the situation.
You're 3 points weren't the problem. The Irony of you accusing us of not having any reading comprehension was. I was laughing so hard I had tears in my eyes and couldn't even focus on the 3 points.

The above post Isn't helping your case either Laughing .

You implying KR is lazy and doesn't put in the time or work turned into your 3 points. You were pulling shit out of your ass and then tried to clean up the mess you made of yourself with 3 ply toilet paper.

Keep digging and you'd best learn to speak Chinese.
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hillbilly wrote:
If they bought a Suzuki something is really wrong..

Damn shame either way.
RichardLoots wrote:
exactly , to buy a stock bike and go from there shows there is something wrong ...and be faster on it says he was right too

I have no clue on how they tested that and how mod the bike was, all I know is a sx bike is much slower (by around 3 seconds) than a stock bike on a mx track. Yellow powerband Smile
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agn5009 8/20/2015 9:00am
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#991 wrote:
Oh, I reckon you could. Don't sell yourself short :laugh: You read what you want. Problem is, you can't see what's written between the lines. Ironic...
Oh, I reckon you could. Don't sell yourself short Laughing

You read what you want. Problem is, you can't see what's written between the lines. Ironic you think we have comprehension Issues LMAO!
agn5009 wrote:
You sound like a complete moron. How can anyone disagree with any of my 3 points? Oh, that's right you're completely disregarding my 3 points and...
You sound like a complete moron. How can anyone disagree with any of my 3 points? Oh, that's right you're completely disregarding my 3 points and attacking my mental capacities, which in reality goes back to my "grasping at straws" quote I had earlier. Keep going, I'll continue laughing at you while you continue to ignore the actual conversation at hand. Go ahead, try to dispute any of my 3 points then maybe I will actually respect your view on the situation.
#991 wrote:
You're 3 points weren't the problem. The Irony of you accusing us of not having any reading comprehension was. I was laughing so hard I had...
You're 3 points weren't the problem. The Irony of you accusing us of not having any reading comprehension was. I was laughing so hard I had tears in my eyes and couldn't even focus on the 3 points.

The above post Isn't helping your case either Laughing .

You implying KR is lazy and doesn't put in the time or work turned into your 3 points. You were pulling shit out of your ass and then tried to clean up the mess you made of yourself with 3 ply toilet paper.

Keep digging and you'd best learn to speak Chinese.
"Implying" no, you simply took it the wrong way. You weren't "comprehending" what I was saying. It's that simple.

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