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Next time ya'll go to the Chiropractor ask him/her to do a pin and stretch or ART on your forearms. It does the same thing.
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I have read many good comments on arm pump and potential answers, however considering arm pump is 100% related to the anatomy, there is no one...
I have read many good comments on arm pump and potential answers, however considering arm pump is 100% related to the anatomy, there is no one answer for everyone. First understand, arm pump isn't a blood flow issue, it is a blood containment issue. Here is the answer. Some riders never get arm pump. Some do, but can train their way out of it and some can't seem to do anything about it. Some of the best riders in the world get chronic arm pump. The reason? The fascia surrounding the forearm flexor bundle muscles is tighter on some people than it is on others. Take Chad Reed, a rider I have worked with on several occasions. Chad has never got arm pump. This is a testament to his anatomy. His fascia isn't as constricting as those who get arm pump, but can train their way out of it. For the people who have such tight fascia that they can't train their way out of it, they need a fascial release. Surgery is an option, as the fascia is cut allowing for the blood to flow into the muscles without constriction. The only issue with this surgery is it only lasts one season, then the pump is worse than it was before the surgery. The answer I choose to promote is a device called the 4Arm Strong. The 4Arm Strong is a self therapy device that expands the fascia allowing for the forearm flexor bundle muscles to contain the blood generated by the energy it requires to twist the throttle and pull on the handle bars, with less or no constriction. Riders all over the world as already using it. Matt Goerke just won the MX1 Canadian National Championship with the help of a 4Arm Strong. Something the MX world should see www.4arm-strong.com
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Amazing how many assholes you find out there on these forums
Says the spamming kook !
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jakez704 wrote:
Next time ya'll go to the Chiropractor ask him/her to do a pin and stretch or ART on your forearms. It does the same thing.
Thank you Jakez704! I invented the 4Arm Strong based on ART. I am ART certified and as a former pro rider I knew in my training that ART would help arm pump. As Rockwell Training Facility's therapist I worked on many rider's forearms with ART and it never failed. So, yes, someone can pay a chiropractor that is ART certified once a week to keep their fascia in your forearms expanded, or you can buy a 4Arm Strong and never have to pay them again. Do the math.
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8/18/2015 9:40am
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It has to be a little bit of both fitness and anatomy. I got arm pump so bad when I first started riding again I could...
It has to be a little bit of both fitness and anatomy. I got arm pump so bad when I first started riding again I could not go half a lap on that beast of a 250 stroke I had. After running, getting in shape, quitting smoking, riding more I could go about 2 to 3 laps. Once I got a 4 stroke I could go a little more.

However, once at the top of your game when all else fails maybe it does rely on anatomy. Arm pump prevented me from becoming the rider I wanted to be.
That is exactly correct. Some people can train their way out of arm pump but that ones that can't need to address the stiffness of their fascia.

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level wrote:
It has to be a little bit of both fitness and anatomy. I got arm pump so bad when I first started riding again I could...
It has to be a little bit of both fitness and anatomy. I got arm pump so bad when I first started riding again I could not go half a lap on that beast of a 250 stroke I had. After running, getting in shape, quitting smoking, riding more I could go about 2 to 3 laps. Once I got a 4 stroke I could go a little more.

However, once at the top of your game when all else fails maybe it does rely on anatomy. Arm pump prevented me from becoming the rider I wanted to be.
That is exactly correct. Some people can train their way out of arm pump but that ones that can't need to address the stiffness of their...
That is exactly correct. Some people can train their way out of arm pump but that ones that can't need to address the stiffness of their fascia.
How much is the Vital Advertisement fee?
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8/18/2015 9:46am
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Doesn't look like much and the price tag is high! I would be curious to know the price of the materials to make one and how...
Doesn't look like much and the price tag is high! I would be curious to know the price of the materials to make one and how much profit they make on one. I already know I get arm pump from gripping the bars too tight. I don't ride enough and I'm trying to teach my brain to grip the frame tighter and loosen up on the grips.
lostboy819 wrote:
I just built my own for $4.95 [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/08/18/101893/s1200_spin_prod_209008801.jpg[/img]
I just built my own for $4.95


Charper732 wrote:
Seriously though, this is the first thing i thought of when i saw dudes device. Make a fiberglass mold of one side of your forearm and...
Seriously though, this is the first thing i thought of when i saw dudes device. Make a fiberglass mold of one side of your forearm and wala.
I don't fault anyone from trying to make their own device. It is a bit more complex than that, but if it works, more power to you. Stay tuned, I am just getting started and already have some very connected MX personalities jumping on board. Like I said in an earlier post, if you know Matt Goerke, Marty Smith, Ricky Johnson or Axell Hodges, you can call them and ask them about it. You can also use any of their discount codes for $100 off. I get than some people are offended by this post because I am promoting a product. Forgive me, it is my first time on a forum like this and I am trying to get the word out. I was hoping to find people that were searching for an answer.
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8/18/2015 9:53am
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Huh, not sure about this 4arm thing, far to expensive and sorry but I am very skeptical that does anything. Now to share what I use...
Huh, not sure about this 4arm thing, far to expensive and sorry but I am very skeptical that does anything.

Now to share what I use. Pretty simple setup, and cheap! Pic below is just for reference, not what I actually use. For mine I went to the parts store, got a wooden rod the same dia as my bars, some rope and a very large bolt. Tied it all together and even added bike grips (note you need 2 non throttle sides). You'll have to mess around with the weight some but I like having enough weight were I can only lift it 5 times at first. Then do it enough in the spring to where I can do it at least 10 times or more without issue. Sure helps a lot!

I have mentioned several riders that use 4Arm Strong and love it. If you know any of them, call them and ask for yourself. I know it is pricy, but I will work with people on the price. It is a legit medical device constructed from medical grade materials, so it wasn't cheap to make. I also mentioned on this thread how doing ART (Active Release Techniques) on someone's forearm reduces arm pump. I invented the 4Arm Strong based on the theory of ART. So far 4Arm Strong works better than ART. I am an ART therapist and I charge every time I work on someone. They can pay me or any other ART guy once per week or they can buy a 4Arm Strong. They will break even quickly.

As far as your exercise suggestion, that will work for some people, but the people it won't work for will actually make their arm pump worse. I can explain if you are interested
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8/18/2015 9:55am
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To the asshole saying this is like a jack up drink, I think you're an idiot. Keep doing what you are doing arm pump guy. This...
To the asshole saying this is like a jack up drink,

I think you're an idiot.

Keep doing what you are doing arm pump guy. This is the best thing I've seen on the market for arm pump ever
Thank you!
8/18/2015 10:13am
If this device works, $200 is nothing compared to repeated trips to physical therapy or a chiropractor. If there wasn't a need for chiropractors or deep tissue massage/therapy, then the trade wouldn't exist.
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8/18/2015 10:28am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2015 10:29am
cwtoyota wrote:
I'm not 100% sure if I'm in the asshole category like you Lostboy, but if I am, that's fine by me. I want to see some...
I'm not 100% sure if I'm in the asshole category like you Lostboy, but if I am, that's fine by me.

I want to see some real medical research and independantly gathered evidence supporting these claims.
I'm skeptical, but if I'm wrong or misinformed, I'll gladly read the literature and change my position on the topic.

I've met some of the best people racing these bikes and I find it frustrating to see snake-oil and alternative medical "cures" being sold to them. On the other hand, "there's a sucker born every minute".
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Being a asshole is one of my better quality'sWink Its an acquired taste,kind of like fine wine and caviar.Cool
cwtoyota - If you are amenable, let me try to change to tone between use. I shouldn't have used the word "Asshole" so please accept my apologies. And I too have met some great people in the motocross world. I have been closely associated with MX for 40 years, first as a racer and now as a therapist. I am glad you said you can be wrong, which is a position I have always held. For now we have not done medical studies but we plan on it. What I can point you to is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myofascial_release, which is what the 4Arm Strong will do (why it will do it is explained below.) There are many products in the market place that haven't been studied but have ingredients that have, or techniques that have. This may shed some light on the 4Arm Strong.

I am ART certified. I invented the 4Arm Strong based on ART. Some people on this thread have mention how ART helps arm pump. As former pro rider I understand arm pump and felt going though my ART training that it would help arm pump. I opened the Rockwell Training Facility with Johnny Louch and remained their on site therapist for a while. It was then that I put ART to the test and it never failed to rid arm pump on our riders. I am not cheap so to see me once or more per week to keep arm pump at a minimum or completely reduced is far more pricy than a 4Arm Strong.

I thought if I could invent a device that took the place of my thumb, it would be received well and it has. ART is great for arm pump and I am finding that the 4Arm Strong works even better.

One thought I had during its development was that if the result of arm pump is a weakened grip, then using the 4Arm Strong should increase grip strength. The first time I tested my grip strength it was 101 lbs. I then used the 4Arm Strong and my grip strength immediately increased to 130 lbs. I have now used it a few times per week for a couple months and my grip strength hovers between 130 and 140 lbs without using the 4Arm Strong first. That is a massive increase and with zero exercise.

Currently Ricky Johnson is testing it and he is extremely impressed. Ricky has a fused wrist so his grip strength is very weak. The first time he used it his grip strength increased from 81 lbs to 102 lbs. Same with Matt Goerke. His wrist ROM is also limited and he has increased his grip strength dramatically. Marty Smith never gets arm pump but he says the grip strength increase makes him feel more in control of his front end. I have several other riders waiting for theirs to be shipped.

When someone looks at the 4Arm Strong and immediately discounts it as snake oil, they just don't know how it was developed, why it was developed and who developed it. All I can say is try it. I am at Pala once per week with Marty Smith. Except for once per week for the last 4 weeks I haven't ridden in 13 years. I am 52 years old and can ride a good 15 minute moto without any forearm tightness. No way that happens after 13 years off. If you are local, I would be happy to have you test it.
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8/18/2015 10:33am
What do you think arm pump surgery does? It expands the fascia with a knife. I expand it with my thumbs and the 4Arm Strong.
cwtoyota wrote:
I haven't said anything about arm pump surgery, but now that you bring it up, maybe you know of some clinical studies that have been peer...
I haven't said anything about arm pump surgery, but now that you bring it up, maybe you know of some clinical studies that have been peer reviewed, independently replicated and published on that as well?

You're right up there with homeopathy, faith-healers, accu-puncture, magnetic jewelry and all of the other alternative "medicine" BS in my opinion until you produce some good independent evidence that supports your claims.

By the way, anecdotes and testamonials are not good evidence for medical claims.



Pills, strange drinks and screw-jack contraptions won't cure arm-pump.
Fitness, hydration and good technique will.



cwtoyota - If you are amenable, let me try to change to tone between use. I shouldn't have used the word "Asshole" so please accept my apologies. And I too have met some great people in the motocross world. I have been closely associated with MX for 40 years, first as a racer and now as a therapist. I am glad you said you can be wrong, which is a position I have always held. For now we have not done medical studies but we plan on it. What I can point you to is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myofascial_release, which is what the 4Arm Strong will do (why it will do it is explained below.) There are many products in the market place that haven't been studied but have ingredients that have, or techniques that have. This may shed some light on the 4Arm Strong.

I am ART certified. I invented the 4Arm Strong based on ART. Some people on this thread have mention how ART helps arm pump. As former pro rider I understand arm pump and felt going though my ART training that it would help arm pump. I opened the Rockwell Training Facility with Johnny Louch and remained their on site therapist for a while. It was then that I put ART to the test and it never failed to rid arm pump on our riders. I am not cheap so to see me once or more per week to keep arm pump at a minimum or completely reduced is far more pricy than a 4Arm Strong.

I thought if I could invent a device that took the place of my thumb, it would be received well and it has. ART is great for arm pump and I am finding that the 4Arm Strong works even better.

One thought I had during its development was that if the result of arm pump is a weakened grip, then using the 4Arm Strong should increase grip strength. The first time I tested my grip strength it was 101 lbs. I then used the 4Arm Strong and my grip strength immediately increased to 130 lbs. I have now used it a few times per week for a couple months and my grip strength hovers between 130 and 140 lbs without using the 4Arm Strong first. That is a massive increase and with zero exercise.

Currently Ricky Johnson is testing it and he is extremely impressed. Ricky has a fused wrist so his grip strength is very weak. The first time he used it his grip strength increased from 81 lbs to 102 lbs. Same with Matt Goerke. His wrist ROM is also limited and he has increased his grip strength dramatically. Marty Smith never gets arm pump but he says the grip strength increase makes him feel more in control of his front end. I have several other riders waiting for theirs to be shipped.

When someone looks at the 4Arm Strong and immediately discounts it as snake oil, they just don't know how it was developed, why it was developed and who developed it. All I can say is try it. I am at Pala once per week with Marty Smith. Except for once per week for the last 4 weeks I haven't ridden in 13 years. I am 52 years old and can ride a good 15 minute moto without any forearm tightness. No way that happens after 13 years off. If you are local, I would be happy to have you test it.
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If this device works, $200 is nothing compared to repeated trips to physical therapy or a chiropractor. If there wasn't a need for chiropractors or deep...
If this device works, $200 is nothing compared to repeated trips to physical therapy or a chiropractor. If there wasn't a need for chiropractors or deep tissue massage/therapy, then the trade wouldn't exist.
Great point and thank you for making it!
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Amazing how many assholes you find out there on these forums
tempura wrote:
So what are you doing here among the assholes? Trying to help the assholes or trying to make some money out of the assholes? No disrespect...
So what are you doing here among the assholes?
Trying to help the assholes or trying to make some money out of the assholes?
No disrespect intended, I'm genuinely curious to know.
Point taken and no disrespect taken. It was beneath me to call anyone an asshole. I was first called ignorant so i shot back. If you knew me you would know as a therapist I want to help everyone, no matter what type of person you are. I have done a lot a free treatments for people who couldn't afford to pay me.

To be more clear. This is my first time on a forum like this, so I didn't know what to expect. Yes, I am trying to sell my product, however I have always stood firm that i would never sell anything that didn't benefit the end line user, so the trade off is fair.
8/18/2015 11:27am
I am offended now that you are backing off calling me an asshole, I have put in years of dedication and practice to become the asshole that I am and now you don't want to give me proper credit ? Sad part is I am fluent in two languages, English and sarcasm and people still think its 90% keyboard and 10% person. Blink
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8/18/2015 1:14pm
Arm pump in 2 laps just means you need to ride more.......this guys talking about real arm pump
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Arm pump in 2 laps just means you need to ride more.......this guys talking about real arm pump
Right on!
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8/18/2015 3:57pm Edited Date/Time 8/18/2015 4:03pm
There is some truth to Mr.X's comment about overworking. Training the forearms is a big mistake. You get enough work from riding. But it really isn't...
There is some truth to Mr.X's comment about overworking. Training the forearms is a big mistake. You get enough work from riding. But it really isn't that difficult. Some never get it, some can train their way out of it, and some will suffer unless they release the fascia.
BS......I had arm pump issues for years until I accepted that I had to ride 20 minute + motos to get rid of it.

I think anyone who has arm pump isn't training as hard as they think they are.
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I think the idea behind this is pretty solid, and it honestly probably does work. It makes sense. However the price is rediculous, and just the fact that you already have "$100" off coupons just goes to show how over priced it really is. Congrats on your new product and I wish you the best of luck, I'm sure it does help arm pump, it really does make sense. But the price in my opinion is absurd, and from what I can tell it's not just my opinion..Find a way to make it cheaper and I'll bet you'll be much more successful with it. I'm sure if it was somewhere around 60-70 bucks you would of sold a few guys on this forum one, including me. But to pay 300 for a bolt/screw type assembly on some kind of curved plastic like material with a elastic strap is insane.
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Calhoun117 wrote:
I think the idea behind this is pretty solid, and it honestly probably does work. It makes sense. However the price is rediculous, and just the...
I think the idea behind this is pretty solid, and it honestly probably does work. It makes sense. However the price is rediculous, and just the fact that you already have "$100" off coupons just goes to show how over priced it really is. Congrats on your new product and I wish you the best of luck, I'm sure it does help arm pump, it really does make sense. But the price in my opinion is absurd, and from what I can tell it's not just my opinion..Find a way to make it cheaper and I'll bet you'll be much more successful with it. I'm sure if it was somewhere around 60-70 bucks you would of sold a few guys on this forum one, including me. But to pay 300 for a bolt/screw type assembly on some kind of curved plastic like material with a elastic strap is insane.
Thanks for the thoughts and I understand the price issue however if you figure buying a 4Arm Strong takes the place of paying $50 to $100 per session to an ART therapist it pays for itself pretty quickly. And the reason I am offering discount codes is because we just launched and we want to get the product out. I am in several other markets where the price isn't even close to an issue. Mx is where my heart is so I will always help out the MX world
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There is some truth to Mr.X's comment about overworking. Training the forearms is a big mistake. You get enough work from riding. But it really isn't...
There is some truth to Mr.X's comment about overworking. Training the forearms is a big mistake. You get enough work from riding. But it really isn't that difficult. Some never get it, some can train their way out of it, and some will suffer unless they release the fascia.
JB 19 wrote:
BS......I had arm pump issues for years until I accepted that I had to ride 20 minute + motos to get rid of it. I think...
BS......I had arm pump issues for years until I accepted that I had to ride 20 minute + motos to get rid of it.

I think anyone who has arm pump isn't training as hard as they think they are.
Someone said something similar earlier in this thread so I will ask you the same question. I have worked on national and world champions that get chronic arm pump. These guys are in amazing riding condition. Not that you are wrong, because some people can train their way out of arm pump, but some people can't. Even some of the best riders in the world
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Calhoun117 wrote:
I think the idea behind this is pretty solid, and it honestly probably does work. It makes sense. However the price is rediculous, and just the...
I think the idea behind this is pretty solid, and it honestly probably does work. It makes sense. However the price is rediculous, and just the fact that you already have "$100" off coupons just goes to show how over priced it really is. Congrats on your new product and I wish you the best of luck, I'm sure it does help arm pump, it really does make sense. But the price in my opinion is absurd, and from what I can tell it's not just my opinion..Find a way to make it cheaper and I'll bet you'll be much more successful with it. I'm sure if it was somewhere around 60-70 bucks you would of sold a few guys on this forum one, including me. But to pay 300 for a bolt/screw type assembly on some kind of curved plastic like material with a elastic strap is insane.
I agree.
This persons product could have benefits to some people, that are in top shape and still suffer from arm pump.
In reality, I think most of the members here would benefit more from getting in better shape, eating clean and getting more time on the bike. That's where I would personally invest my $300 first.
Personally I find the mark-up on this product to be extremely over priced. I'd say $50 is all I'd pay for one at the most, and its not guaranteed to work.
But as they say, something is worth as much as people are willing to pay for it, so I guess only time will tell if this device takes off and is in everyone's moto kit. I have to say I'm doubtful, especially with the $300 price tag.
8/18/2015 9:11pm
Calhoun117 wrote:
I think the idea behind this is pretty solid, and it honestly probably does work. It makes sense. However the price is rediculous, and just the...
I think the idea behind this is pretty solid, and it honestly probably does work. It makes sense. However the price is rediculous, and just the fact that you already have "$100" off coupons just goes to show how over priced it really is. Congrats on your new product and I wish you the best of luck, I'm sure it does help arm pump, it really does make sense. But the price in my opinion is absurd, and from what I can tell it's not just my opinion..Find a way to make it cheaper and I'll bet you'll be much more successful with it. I'm sure if it was somewhere around 60-70 bucks you would of sold a few guys on this forum one, including me. But to pay 300 for a bolt/screw type assembly on some kind of curved plastic like material with a elastic strap is insane.
Thanks for the thoughts and I understand the price issue however if you figure buying a 4Arm Strong takes the place of paying $50 to $100...
Thanks for the thoughts and I understand the price issue however if you figure buying a 4Arm Strong takes the place of paying $50 to $100 per session to an ART therapist it pays for itself pretty quickly. And the reason I am offering discount codes is because we just launched and we want to get the product out. I am in several other markets where the price isn't even close to an issue. Mx is where my heart is so I will always help out the MX world
I think you should throw in the backpack for free.
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8/18/2015 10:10pm
Calhoun117 wrote:
I think the idea behind this is pretty solid, and it honestly probably does work. It makes sense. However the price is rediculous, and just the...
I think the idea behind this is pretty solid, and it honestly probably does work. It makes sense. However the price is rediculous, and just the fact that you already have "$100" off coupons just goes to show how over priced it really is. Congrats on your new product and I wish you the best of luck, I'm sure it does help arm pump, it really does make sense. But the price in my opinion is absurd, and from what I can tell it's not just my opinion..Find a way to make it cheaper and I'll bet you'll be much more successful with it. I'm sure if it was somewhere around 60-70 bucks you would of sold a few guys on this forum one, including me. But to pay 300 for a bolt/screw type assembly on some kind of curved plastic like material with a elastic strap is insane.
tempura wrote:
I agree. This persons product could have benefits to some people, that are in top shape and still suffer from arm pump. In reality, I think...
I agree.
This persons product could have benefits to some people, that are in top shape and still suffer from arm pump.
In reality, I think most of the members here would benefit more from getting in better shape, eating clean and getting more time on the bike. That's where I would personally invest my $300 first.
Personally I find the mark-up on this product to be extremely over priced. I'd say $50 is all I'd pay for one at the most, and its not guaranteed to work.
But as they say, something is worth as much as people are willing to pay for it, so I guess only time will tell if this device takes off and is in everyone's moto kit. I have to say I'm doubtful, especially with the $300 price tag.
I'm selling them everyday, two were sent to Australia today. I received several more inquires today, one who mentioned all the all the top talent we have endorsing it. You have to understand, you aren't just buying a device, you are buying technology, R & D, and you are buying an answer to an issue so many people are at a loss over. The product is priced at $299, however like I have said over and over on this thread, the company is very liberal with $100 off discount codes. If you consider that an appointment with a therapist who could do the same thing as the 4Arm Strong is going to cost you $50 to $100 per session and considering these sessions will reduce arm pump for approximately one week, you could easily spend more than $200 in one month. $199 one time will solve your issue. Furthermore, the 4Arm Strong is manufactured in the USA, not China.
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Calhoun117 wrote:
I think the idea behind this is pretty solid, and it honestly probably does work. It makes sense. However the price is rediculous, and just the...
I think the idea behind this is pretty solid, and it honestly probably does work. It makes sense. However the price is rediculous, and just the fact that you already have "$100" off coupons just goes to show how over priced it really is. Congrats on your new product and I wish you the best of luck, I'm sure it does help arm pump, it really does make sense. But the price in my opinion is absurd, and from what I can tell it's not just my opinion..Find a way to make it cheaper and I'll bet you'll be much more successful with it. I'm sure if it was somewhere around 60-70 bucks you would of sold a few guys on this forum one, including me. But to pay 300 for a bolt/screw type assembly on some kind of curved plastic like material with a elastic strap is insane.
Thanks for the thoughts and I understand the price issue however if you figure buying a 4Arm Strong takes the place of paying $50 to $100...
Thanks for the thoughts and I understand the price issue however if you figure buying a 4Arm Strong takes the place of paying $50 to $100 per session to an ART therapist it pays for itself pretty quickly. And the reason I am offering discount codes is because we just launched and we want to get the product out. I am in several other markets where the price isn't even close to an issue. Mx is where my heart is so I will always help out the MX world
lostboy819 wrote:
I think you should throw in the backpack for free.
Are you practicing your sarcasm again? For you I will throw in two!
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8/19/2015 4:05am
I don't look at this as spam. He thought it would be a good place to let riders know there is a possible cure for a ailment that affects many riders.

And for the nutjob that said he would buy one for everyone in this forum if one of those riders came on here that is taking a huge gamble as I am sure that could happen within hours if he chose to ask one of them

And although the OP may be old n slow now (like myself) he could most likely lap 99% of the forum board members. He was winning CMC Pro races when the gates had deeper talent than today's Nationals. Show some respect to someone who is trying to offer some help
Markee
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8/19/2015 5:05am
Have some questions. The instructional video cleared a lot of questions for me but:

1. You flex the 6 different points 2 times for each arm. But what is recommended when the "next" session should be. Is this pre ride, once a day, once every other day, etc...

2. Can this be used to stretch that muscle or ligament or tendon (what every it is) below the funny bone on the forearm? For me that thing is always sensitive.

Stretching seems second class compared to strength and endurance in this sport.
skid mark
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8/19/2015 5:11am
My hands are going numb just reading this thread
neysbo
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8/19/2015 7:27am
Just remember to switch hands..... LOL

4Arm Strong
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8/19/2015 7:41am
Markee wrote:
Have some questions. The instructional video cleared a lot of questions for me but: 1. You flex the 6 different points 2 times for each arm...
Have some questions. The instructional video cleared a lot of questions for me but:

1. You flex the 6 different points 2 times for each arm. But what is recommended when the "next" session should be. Is this pre ride, once a day, once every other day, etc...

2. Can this be used to stretch that muscle or ligament or tendon (what every it is) below the funny bone on the forearm? For me that thing is always sensitive.

Stretching seems second class compared to strength and endurance in this sport.
I recommend using the 4Arm Strong every other day. For sure use it on the days you ride or race before you start riding, before you pump. Some people use it everyday for the first few days and that seems to get them ramped up quicker, however every other day, 3 to 4 days per week is plenty. Some testing resulted in only needing to use it one day per week, others needed it more.

There are safe guards in the design to keep you from getting close to your funny bone. You can't get it that low and for a reason.

Specifically the 4Arm Strong stretches the fascia and forearm flexor bundle muscles. It is the stiffness of the fascia that causes arm pump, so expanding the fascia opens up the area, allowing the blood to flow in and be contained with less restriction.

There are obviously great reasons to get stronger and fitter, however strengthening these muscles with exercise really can cause arm pump to get worse. 4Arm Strong creates strength without exercise, while creating space for containing the blood more effectively
4Arm Strong
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8/19/2015 8:01am
KennyT wrote:
I don't look at this as spam. He thought it would be a good place to let riders know there is a possible cure for a...
I don't look at this as spam. He thought it would be a good place to let riders know there is a possible cure for a ailment that affects many riders.

And for the nutjob that said he would buy one for everyone in this forum if one of those riders came on here that is taking a huge gamble as I am sure that could happen within hours if he chose to ask one of them

And although the OP may be old n slow now (like myself) he could most likely lap 99% of the forum board members. He was winning CMC Pro races when the gates had deeper talent than today's Nationals. Show some respect to someone who is trying to offer some help
Thank you Kenny!

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