Weigandt: "best riders in the world" getting a little lame.

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I really don't care, apple to oranges. But I'll join the fun.

MXGP riders sure would scare amurricans:

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If we constantly say that American riders have to adjust to GP tracks to be successful and GP riders would have to adjust to American tracks to be successful, what's so wrong with saying that the guys riding the American tracks are the best in the world at riding American tacks?
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DonM wrote:
People from all over the world race the US nationals......where have all your "World Champions" gone??
We also can ask where all the US guys at the World Championship are ?. I can't remember a US World Champion the last 20 Years Wink European SX and MX Champions of the US Series i know.
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DonM wrote:
People from all over the world race the US nationals......where have all your "World Champions" gone??
Sorry must of missed the 222 going over to AMA n.leaving mxgp

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DonM wrote:
People from all over the world race the US nationals......where have all your "World Champions" gone??
struth wrote:
Sorry must of missed the 222 going over to AMA n.leaving mxgp
You miss an awful lot, so don't worry about it. One thing you never miss however is the chance to spew more of your anti American crap..
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We also can ask where all the US guys at the World Championship are ?. I can't remember a US World Champion the last 20 Years...
We also can ask where all the US guys at the World Championship are ?. I can't remember a US World Champion the last 20 Years Wink European SX and MX Champions of the US Series i know.
Easy...no money compared to US Nationals
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struth wrote:
Sorry must of missed the 222 going over to AMA n.leaving mxgp
The list is longer for those that have left than those that have stayed....also don't forget the contenders that have come over too...ask yourself why does it seem like a one way street....
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DonM wrote:
People from all over the world race the US nationals......where have all your "World Champions" gone??
philG wrote:
Still here racing.
You two both look stupid. It's actually funny how worked upped you two are.
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DonM wrote:
People from all over the world race the US nationals......where have all your "World Champions" gone??
struth wrote:
Sorry must of missed the 222 going over to AMA n.leaving mxgp
pilotdude wrote:
You miss an awful lot, so don't worry about it. One thing you never miss however is the chance to spew more of your anti American...
You miss an awful lot, so don't worry about it. One thing you never miss however is the chance to spew more of your anti American crap..
want a tissue,
Not anti American, anti bullshit n blind faith.


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MHR401 wrote:
I love motocross so I enjoy both series alot but.............Europe has never had riders equal to or comparable to guys like McGrath, Stanton and Carmichael (...
I love motocross so I enjoy both series alot but.............Europe has never had riders equal to or comparable to guys like McGrath, Stanton and Carmichael ( spare me Everts/Cairoli..not in the same league). I will say that Bayle is the only rider from "across the pond" that is considered in the same conversation as McGrath/Carmichael.
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There has never been anyone in this sport on another level to Everts. Carmichael was probably the only guy you could say was better than him...
There has never been anyone in this sport on another level to Everts. Carmichael was probably the only guy you could say was better than him. But to say Everts wasn't even in his league is total garbage
I'll just leave this here. On a 2 stroke as well.....Tongue

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struth wrote:
Sorry must of missed the 222 going over to AMA n.leaving mxgp
DonM wrote:
The list is longer for those that have left than those that have stayed....also don't forget the contenders that have come over too...ask yourself why does...
The list is longer for those that have left than those that have stayed....also don't forget the contenders that have come over too...ask yourself why does it seem like a one way street....
Think the age rule now will see more euros coming over and think it was trend thing with euros coming over n giving sx a shot.
Majority of euros went back to mxgp.

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DonM wrote:
The list is longer for those that have left than those that have stayed....also don't forget the contenders that have come over too...ask yourself why does...
The list is longer for those that have left than those that have stayed....also don't forget the contenders that have come over too...ask yourself why does it seem like a one way street....
You said it yourself, money.
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struth wrote:
Sorry must of missed the 222 going over to AMA n.leaving mxgp
DonM wrote:
The list is longer for those that have left than those that have stayed....also don't forget the contenders that have come over too...ask yourself why does...
The list is longer for those that have left than those that have stayed....also don't forget the contenders that have come over too...ask yourself why does it seem like a one way street....
struth wrote:
Think the age rule now will see more euros coming over and think it was trend thing with euros coming over n giving sx a shot...
Think the age rule now will see more euros coming over and think it was trend thing with euros coming over n giving sx a shot.
Majority of euros went back to mxgp.

Whatever excuse you want to use....bottom line, other than Jamma and Kongolas the majority of GP fans on here are complete fishing asshats and I know from the GP's I've attended that is not the case for those that actually go to the races
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FB wrote:
You said it yourself, money.
So let me get this straight....riders are leaving or selling out to an inferior series because of money....sounds like a problem to me...
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philG wrote:
Because its a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP..... as in people from all over the world racing all over the world . You have a World Series of Baseball...
Because its a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP..... as in people from all over the world racing all over the world .

You have a World Series of Baseball FFS , that only your teams can play in .. what the hell is that about.

DonM wrote:
People from all over the world race the US nationals......where have all your "World Champions" gone??
Yep, all but the ones who are/were afraid to race SX.
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FB wrote:
You said it yourself, money.
DonM wrote:
So let me get this straight....riders are leaving or selling out to an inferior series because of money....sounds like a problem to me...
I never said it was an inferior series.
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There are clearly enough Euro's on this forum where quite honestly you guys can create your own forum. Please do so. Most of us will not go there every day and try and stir up shit on your forum. While I believe most Americans on here very much respect the GP series and European riders, this constant bullshit y'all stir up is getting quite silly.

Anyone who is interested in other sports have heard your whining forever. In golf we have the Ryder Cup. The Europeans have finally become competitive with America within the past 20 years or so and started winning fairly frequently. Now all the European Sports journals start talking about the next Ryder Cup the Monday after the event is over. The next event is 2 years off at that point. American journalists begin giving it their interest maybe a few months before the event.

Sporting events between The US and Europe seem to be way more important to you guys. Who really gives a shit who calls the AMA series or the GP series the best in the world. Think about it this way. At least the AMA series has all the top Americans, a few of the top Europeans and some of the top Internationals. Ask yourselves, why is that? Why do so many want to come here and compete and very, very few want to go to Europe and compete. Same thing with your golfers. They all compete here and not in Europe and most are even American citizens.

You guys start talking about shit we all want to talk about. Talk about the riders with no nationalism attached. This is fucking stupid every day.
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Yep, all but the ones who are/were afraid to race SX.
Sure, they are all afraid of supercross, that's the reason why they don't want to go to America... Blink

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I think there are some riders in Erzberg Austria right now that would disagree with the op.
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machine wrote:
Yep, all but the ones who are/were afraid to race SX.
woody woodpecker wrote:
Sure, they are all afraid of supercross, that's the reason why they don't want to go to America... Blink

Didn't say "ALL" now did I. I respect guys like Roczen and Musquin any many before them for coming here and being able to excel in both disciplines, that's what makes a riders the best in the world.
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struth wrote:
Sorry must of missed the 222 going over to AMA n.leaving mxgp
pilotdude wrote:
You miss an awful lot, so don't worry about it. One thing you never miss however is the chance to spew more of your anti American...
You miss an awful lot, so don't worry about it. One thing you never miss however is the chance to spew more of your anti American crap..
struth wrote:
want a tissue,
Not anti American, anti bullshit n blind faith.


Only a tissue to wipe away tears of laughter. You might want to get a prescription for a shot a realism though.
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MX Masta....

Been meaning to mention to you for awhile that i dont see your country's flag on the moon.
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craaigo wrote:
America has the best riders in the world. Hands down no question. Sure GP guys can race motocross, but let's race supercross. Until then stfu with...
America has the best riders in the world. Hands down no question. Sure GP guys can race motocross, but let's race supercross. Until then stfu with all thy stupid noise.
Forget supercross we're talking MX here,anyhow the last GP guys to give it a real shot have been Roczen,Musquin and Pourcel,all out of the 250 GP and they've done great

Your 4 time Supercross champ,Outdoor champ and proclaimed fastest rider on the planet who dominated the US scene where the "Fastest riders in the world" are just went 9-8,1-3,4-4,4-0 in the GP series

So I think he best riders in the world are very much from elsewhere too,if not more,specially considering well the AMA.champs have done at receent MXdN races.
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machine wrote:
Yep, all but the ones who are/were afraid to race SX.
woody woodpecker wrote:
Sure, they are all afraid of supercross, that's the reason why they don't want to go to America... Blink

machine wrote:
Didn't say "ALL" now did I. I respect guys like Roczen and Musquin any many before them for coming here and being able to excel in...
Didn't say "ALL" now did I. I respect guys like Roczen and Musquin any many before them for coming here and being able to excel in both disciplines, that's what makes a riders the best in the world.
How come if SX makes them the "best in the World" they've had their asses kicked when they've raced the GP guys over the last few years?

Some of you guys have taken the defeat of your ginger prodical son in the GP's way too much to heart,I appreciate it's been a shock but get a grip
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woody woodpecker wrote:
Sure, they are all afraid of supercross, that's the reason why they don't want to go to America... Blink

machine wrote:
Didn't say "ALL" now did I. I respect guys like Roczen and Musquin any many before them for coming here and being able to excel in...
Didn't say "ALL" now did I. I respect guys like Roczen and Musquin any many before them for coming here and being able to excel in both disciplines, that's what makes a riders the best in the world.
TripleDigit wrote:
How come if SX makes them the "best in the World" they've had their asses kicked when they've raced the GP guys over the last few...
How come if SX makes them the "best in the World" they've had their asses kicked when they've raced the GP guys over the last few years?

Some of you guys have taken the defeat of your ginger prodical son in the GP's way too much to heart,I appreciate it's been a shock but get a grip
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Kawasaki572 6/6/2015 9:11pm
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craaigo wrote:
America has the best riders in the world. Hands down no question. Sure GP guys can race motocross, but let's race supercross. Until then stfu with...
America has the best riders in the world. Hands down no question. Sure GP guys can race motocross, but let's race supercross. Until then stfu with all thy stupid noise.
TripleDigit wrote:
Forget supercross we're talking MX here,anyhow the last GP guys to give it a real shot have been Roczen,Musquin and Pourcel,all out of the 250 GP...
Forget supercross we're talking MX here,anyhow the last GP guys to give it a real shot have been Roczen,Musquin and Pourcel,all out of the 250 GP and they've done great

Your 4 time Supercross champ,Outdoor champ and proclaimed fastest rider on the planet who dominated the US scene where the "Fastest riders in the world" are just went 9-8,1-3,4-4,4-0 in the GP series

So I think he best riders in the world are very much from elsewhere too,if not more,specially considering well the AMA.champs have done at receent MXdN races.
Really? You're comparing RV's first year in the GP's vs Roczen, Musquin, Pourcel now? Lets compare Roczen's first year outdoor series in the US, i'm sure you remember, how did that work out? His first year, he only won one moto, ONE.... and it took him 10 rounds to do it, it took RV just a few rounds to get an overall in the GP's.

It was hilarious watching some Euro's here predicting Roczen winning by 30+ sec almost every moto before the season started, only to find out he was just a top 5 guy his first year in the US . Don't get me started on Musquin's first year..... Only Pourcel was competitive straight away, but NOW look at him...... Give RV another year, i guaranteed you RV will be much better, just like how Roczen was after his first year.
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akillerwombat wrote:
If we constantly say that American riders have to adjust to GP tracks to be successful and GP riders would have to adjust to American tracks...
If we constantly say that American riders have to adjust to GP tracks to be successful and GP riders would have to adjust to American tracks to be successful, what's so wrong with saying that the guys riding the American tracks are the best in the world at riding American tacks?
I think if it's really important to you, that you should do it... I got your back Bro...
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TripleDigit wrote:
Forget supercross we're talking MX here,anyhow the last GP guys to give it a real shot have been Roczen,Musquin and Pourcel,all out of the 250 GP...
Forget supercross we're talking MX here,anyhow the last GP guys to give it a real shot have been Roczen,Musquin and Pourcel,all out of the 250 GP and they've done great

Your 4 time Supercross champ,Outdoor champ and proclaimed fastest rider on the planet who dominated the US scene where the "Fastest riders in the world" are just went 9-8,1-3,4-4,4-0 in the GP series

So I think he best riders in the world are very much from elsewhere too,if not more,specially considering well the AMA.champs have done at receent MXdN races.
Unfortunately for us all, because he got hurt the results are inconclusive.

... and I have read many times from GP based contributers that the MXoN results don't count.

Lighten up Francis.
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Kawasaki572 wrote:
I'll just leave this here. On a 2 stroke as well.....Tongue

Dammit, I watched the whole race.
RC knows how to ride a CR250 like no one today. Phenomenal.

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Julian wrote:
It just makes the USA look silly in the eyes of the rest of the world when we have to keep hearing certain Americans repeat over...
It just makes the USA look silly in the eyes of the rest of the world when we have to keep hearing certain Americans repeat over and over and over and over and over that "the best riders in the world" are riding the AMA MX series. Just let it go Mr. Weigandt, please. Thanks to RV, even the American public has now clearly seen the level of the riders in the Grand Prix series. It just makes the Americans look desperate to hear such comments.
Worst thread ever, pure bait. Since RV left I'm guessing the ol ratings have plummeted. Sorry but RV did win the overall in his 2nd gp. Both series have great riders but comparing the two is like putting an F1 racer into an Indy car race.

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