LL's rookie questions:

chuckie108
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Edited Date/Time 6/3/2015 9:09pm
Proud to report I qualified for LL's this year. We will be taking a motorhome and camping there, and I'm currently in the planning phase of this trip. I've been all through the MXSports website and most all of the questions I have were answered there. I still have a few that I'm sure the experienced folks on this site can answer. Here goes:
1) It says there are designated wash areas and bike washing is limited to those areas. It also says pressure washers are provided. Considering the shear number of people and bikes there, would the smart play be to bring my own pressure washer to hook up and use in this area? Is that even possible?
2) It says "no one under 18 allowed to operate a motorized pit vehicle". Obviously this is the rule, but I feel like I've seen many photos of minors operating golf karts and pit bikes there. Is this a new rule? Is it one that is generally not enforced? Or is it pretty much the hard line? (asking more for my kids because it will influence what equipment we bring with us)
3)Should I bring my own tires? Or will Dunlop be there selling new rubber at a race discount?

That's all I have right now. I'm sure there will be more later, and I'm sure there are quite a few things I'm overlooking.LOL Any and all input is greatly appreciated!
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MX114
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6/2/2015 1:11pm Edited Date/Time 6/2/2015 1:15pm
The wash stations there are pretty good. A little bit of a wait at times but it isn't too bad, they will have like 2-3 pressure washers at each one. You do see people washing bikes in there pits as well though. They stay pretty on top of the pit riding but as long as your not acting like a knuckle head they shouldn't hassle you at all as long as you have your registration stickers. Don't stay out on em past dusk though cause then they will make you walk it and bust your chops more often when they see you again. And as far as tires go I remeber Dunlop having good deals in 2013. I know in 2009 Pirelli had crazy deals for racers but since then that had changed... It was stupid cheap like 80 a set or something but in limited numbers.

Besides that some useful info is def watch out for poison ivy as its everywhere down there on trees and stuff and try and park up on stagecoach hill if you want a little more peace and quiet, and also provides allot of shade in your pit. The beer tent is lots of fun (for those 21 and over) as is the events they put on during the week. Congrats and have a killer moto vacation. There's nothing like a week at the ranch!!
RPM68
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6/2/2015 2:55pm
Bring your own washer. with PLENTY OF WATER! They charge like $35 to fill up a tank.


Bring a golf kart for sure, be responsible about it even though theyre pretty flexible.



the track changes completely from first practice to last moto. buy some new mx 32's before your trip and youll be fine.
mx5471
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6/2/2015 4:23pm
i brought my own washer, but used it sparingly with no one bothering me. Tires were for sale, all the brands. We got lucky. Dunlop used to pick a couple classes and give them free tires. My son rode stock and mod on a stock bike, and was in the class they picked that year. We got 2 sets of tires free. They assumed we had 2 bikes. Every one has everything for sale there. At the time, if you had a Suzuki or Yamaha, they would even fix it and tune it for free. Check out the goggle company booths. We were using Scott, and every day we would go there and they would put in a new lens and load it up with tearoffs for free. Get to the staging area at least 3 motos before yours. They move it pretty fast. Start your bike in your pit and ride it to the staging area to be sure it's ok. My son was 15 at the time, and we rented a golf cart. You need one. They have guards, (not in uniform, just locals), at the roads between parking areas, checking for under age kids drivin the carts. We got there on thursday, a few days early, and every time we got in the cart, my son drove and my wife and I were passengers, and we always stopped and talked to the guy for a few minutes. The next day he asked if we had any aspirin, we said we'll go back and get you one. When we brought it back, we were talking and he said his wife was doing the same thing in another spot. The next day we went by, my son driving, and asked if he was hungry. Did he need lunch? Do you want a burger? He said yes. So we got him a big burger and fries and a drink, and went to his wife and did the same thing. After that, my son was on his own. Nobody stopped him for any thing. He'd hand the guy an ice cold water when he went by, and it was cool that nobody ever bothered him for being too young to drive the cart. Just watch out. I saw him going by a ways away and he and his buddy had that cart loaded with girls. You have to feel it out. People have friends that come and have cars, and go to the store for stuff. If you make friends with someone, you can ask them to pick up beer or ice or food for much less than it costs there. Save your front number plate, mechanics passes, bib, pit passes, and book, and make a shadowbox display of it. Pretty cool to look at and bring back the memories. It's a bit overwhelming there, but take time and enjoy it all. Above all, stay calm and don't worry about how you do. Enjoy the experience.
Jammer1
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6/2/2015 4:46pm Edited Date/Time 6/2/2015 4:49pm
Bring your own power washer and 500gal water! Buy a pit vehicle pass and be responsible! Dunlop will be selling tires and they usually have some very fair deals, but never free, except for Dunlop team riders.

I would bring an extra identical bike with a hard pack front tire and a mud rear tire. This bike acts as a back up spare parts bike for everything. hand Guards for the mudder. You will likely be riding in it and this helps. Bring a larger tooth rear and front sprocket!

Make sure your motorhome is topped off with fuel before pulling in and full of fresh water.

Electric cord, big outdoor fan, outdoor cooker, rubber mud boots, plenty of old towels, Sunscreen, bug spray, bathing suit, float and river shoes or old tennis shoes.

It will most likely rain very hard one day, be prepared for both at the camp and to race or practice in it. Be on time to the gate period!

Drink plenty of beer, hang out in the river as much as possible and have fun!

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lumpy790
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6/2/2015 7:27pm Edited Date/Time 6/2/2015 7:28pm
If you do not get a hook up in the lottery....roll in as early as you can ..... you will not be the 1st one there. No hook up roll in early and park next to the start. I typically roll in mid day Thursday. When choosing your spot look for the high spot and park there.

Did I mention to roll in early? Hit a walmart and buy up floating devices for creek relaxing.
JMR1976
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6/2/2015 7:50pm Edited Date/Time 6/2/2015 9:54pm
I wouldn't bring my own pressure washer, use a washing area that is not near the track. We buy tires there, they have fair prices just get there a few hours before your motos in case they're busy. If your kid is not a idiot he should be fine on the cart.
chuckie108
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6/2/2015 9:14pm
Thanks everyone for the great input. Many things in here I wouldn't have even thought about. Being from Cali, a mud race in July is the last thing on my mind! hahahaha! I'll make sure I'm prepared.

My son is 17, 6'1", 200 lbs, and well behaved/respectful, I think he will be okay to drive the cart around then(fortunately we have access to one).

I'll bring my wash setup for emergencies only.

Been training my ass off- but I'm going to put more attention on heat acclimation and hydration strategies now as well.

Getting there before sunday might be a tough order- driving a motorhome from Cali, and I can't take a month off!! hahaha!

Honestly, qualifying was my major goal. I'm not too stressed about the result, I'm putting all my effort and attention into the process of preparing. As long as I give my best effort while there, I'll be satisfied.

Thanks again everyone for the great inout. Anything else you might think of, keep it coming!
6/2/2015 9:26pm
Water pump set up and filter is always nice if you don't wana bring a 500 gallon tank in the rig and are within a hoes distance to the creek. I mean hose. But yea moto hoes near the creek! Great for siggt seeing and wading.
OR Racer46
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6/2/2015 9:50pm
Bring money. More money than you think you will need . You will spend over 2 g just in fuel driving Then you have your entry. And 400 footprint Remember you have to run a 2 diget number . The track is a lot different than any tracks on the west coast . They have been adding a stupid amount of sand the last 2 years . Plan on 1 mud race 1 race in the heat and who knows what your 3rd will be but it won't be what you think it will be . I highly recommend riding at the local
Tracks. Becuse you will have so much down time . You get 30 min on Monday and that's it then you sit and wait .
hillbilly
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6/3/2015 6:20am
Regionals already run? They used to be in june,getting done early this year.

Always took my own washer and water.

Dont forget your valvestem tool

When the bunch next to you fires up their cart with the straight pipe on it at 6am then runs it till midnight slip over at 3am and remove their valve stems.

http://motocross.transworld.net/features/loretta-lynns-2003-a-hillbilly…
6/3/2015 7:07am
hillbilly wrote:
Regionals already run? They used to be in june,getting done early this year. Always took my own washer and water. Dont forget your valvestem tool When...
Regionals already run? They used to be in june,getting done early this year.

Always took my own washer and water.

Dont forget your valvestem tool

When the bunch next to you fires up their cart with the straight pipe on it at 6am then runs it till midnight slip over at 3am and remove their valve stems.

http://motocross.transworld.net/features/loretta-lynns-2003-a-hillbilly…
Literally the best advice in this thread
mxracer239
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6/3/2015 8:31am
So just a ballpark number how much would it cost for one rider @ Loretta"s?
6/3/2015 8:32am
Congratulations on qualifying! You are in for a great time. I've been going nearly every year for 17 or so years, first racing and now working and I look forward to it still every summer. It really is a great summer vacation.

Sounds like you are not overly worried about results, and that is good to not have the pressure of performing and will allow you to enjoy the week just a bit more. Definitely remember it is an accomplishment to be there and just enjoy the experience.

Along with tires, pretty much every moto company you can imagine will be setup there. They aren't there to make a killing off of you from my experience, but to help make your week go as smoothly as possible so you can do the best as possible. The OEMs have parts stocked and techs on hand to help with any pesky problems.

I will be there working at the Race Tech booth all week. If you have any questions on setup or just want your sag and clickers checked definitely stop by. Like many others, we go there to provide support to give you the best chance possible to do your best. We're there to help, so don't hesitate to stop and ask questions or get help.

I do know last year the fuel vendor had exclusive rights, so if you wanted something else you had to visit the gas station off the interstate about 8 or so miles away to fill up your cans. So be prepared there incase that is the case again.

The motos are long and hot and the track is made up of a dirt that is unlike anything else you've ever ridden most likely. A lot of sand and woodchips with a hard base below. Depending on the amount of rain, it will drastically change how the surface is. It is tighter than a California track and the ruts get deep, so try and practice rut riding as much as possible.

Morning motos are tilled up really deep with a lot of water. Have roll offs ready for these ones. You will leave the track looking like a mud moto if you don't nail the start in one of these motos. Same with motos after the lunch break when they re-work the track. Late afternoon motos will be hot and rough.

Guys will get tired late in the motos and it's easy to pick up a handful of spots without much fight late in the motos usually if you're in shape.

Start upping your water intake well before the event. Now isn't a terrible time to start!
OR Racer46
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6/3/2015 10:13am
Mxracer239 that's a tough ? To answer. There are so many variables to consider . I know to drive from Oregon it cost over 2000 just in fuel to and from Then you have your entry fee. And footprint fee Transponder fee ect ect Realisticly I would say 3 - 5000. Depending on were you are coming from. . I guess if you lived close you could do it for a little less .
6/3/2015 10:50am Edited Date/Time 6/3/2015 10:51am
mxracer239 wrote:
So just a ballpark number how much would it cost for one rider @ Loretta"s?
I think you can get it done on shoe string budget with one bike in one class for about 3,000. But I'm only 10 hours from the ranch. God knows. Travel is the huge expense....
Old-Man
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6/3/2015 9:09pm
hillbilly wrote:
Regionals already run? They used to be in june,getting done early this year. Always took my own washer and water. Dont forget your valvestem tool When...
Regionals already run? They used to be in june,getting done early this year.

Always took my own washer and water.

Dont forget your valvestem tool

When the bunch next to you fires up their cart with the straight pipe on it at 6am then runs it till midnight slip over at 3am and remove their valve stems.

http://motocross.transworld.net/features/loretta-lynns-2003-a-hillbilly…
Thats a great story Dave, need more of that kind of view on shit....world is running out of Heart like that.
Like the part about the Trophy by your Kids the best, Have four Daughters of my own and I agree, anything made by them to commemorate a win is far beyond more valuable than an LL plaque.

Need more story's like this one. Good stuff!

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