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It's more about civil rights than feelings. Would you want your child chuffed and put on their knees just because of the color of their skin...
It's more about civil rights than feelings. Would you want your child chuffed and put on their knees just because of the color of their skin or where they live? There are other ways to catch the criminals.


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Yes, move up in the world and have self respect and your profile will be fine.
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Move up in the world.................come on man, I know that you are smarter than that.


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Yes, it's not that difficult if you don't make excuses. And yes I am.
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Profiling works. Dont want to be profiled? Dont dress, act like or hang around actual thugs. Simple as that. We had a guy at our shop...
Profiling works. Dont want to be profiled? Dont dress, act like or hang around actual thugs. Simple as that.
We had a guy at our shop fresh out of the marines. Nice kid. Once he was out, bought a caprice bubble body, threw dubs on it, system, new wardrobe, looked and acted like an average street dealer in our area. Not 2 months later, he got carjacked 2 blocks from our shop because other dealers thought he was coming in to their turf. Wasnt the police, it was other dealers. Stuffed him in his own trunk. He was fortunate enough that a patrol car passed by the parking lot they had him in and caught them with their .45's pointed at the trunk seconds away from blasting him full of lead.

Dress the part, dont get pissed if you get profiled. It isnt just the police who think you are a thug. Other thugs will think that of you as well.

Profiling is one of the best tactics that they have and all the "oh but what about our feelz" crowd makes policing damn near impossible.
Dont want to be profiled? Dont dress, act like or hang around actual thugs. Simple as that.

That is what you don't get. The "thug uniform" is what everyone else wears! Drug dealers come in every race, economic background, and gender. Sure you can "profile" just like the dealers in your account did and look what happened.............they were wrong. Would the cops be justified in stopping that kid just because he "looked" the part??? No. Maybe we should be stopping guys that look like Timothy McVeigh or everyone that wears black trench coats or ..............

The ends does not justify the means...............

On one level I'm surprised that some of you are so singular in your thought about this topic, but then again I'm not.



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5/28/2015 10:02am Edited Date/Time 5/28/2015 10:03am
I grew up in a worse place than most I'm sure and my parents were the poorest around. No one held my hand. I grew up off dixie highway in the getto. I moved up.
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5/28/2015 10:03am
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Yes, move up in the world and have self respect and your profile will be fine.
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Move up in the world.................come on man, I know that you are smarter than that.


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Yes, it's not that difficult if you don't make excuses. And yes I am.
That's the problem, you're assuming that they aren't moving up in the world. When I was in college I heard many stories about the cops stopping my classmates in their home towns (major cities) for no other reason than they were black. College students.................


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Gulliani took my approach. It worked and thr community loved him and the police for it. Then a democrat came in office and daid it wss...
Gulliani took my approach. It worked and thr community loved him and the police for it. Then a democrat came in office and daid it wss all wrong.., now crime is on the rise and the police are handcuffed again. Sometimes you have to call a spade a spade and handle it the only way they know. Stop and frisk was wildly successful. But noooooo thats racist.... No, its knowing your criminal and targeting it
I can't believe that someone would actually be ok with stop and frisk...

I would have thought that you would be for personal rights and the freedom to walk down the street without fear of being fucked with.
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Forget it.
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Unfortunately we gave the personal rights thing a chance and it was taken advantage of and proven people can't be responsible enough. Sorry time to start hurting feelings again.
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5/28/2015 10:26am
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Gulliani took my approach. It worked and thr community loved him and the police for it. Then a democrat came in office and daid it wss...
Gulliani took my approach. It worked and thr community loved him and the police for it. Then a democrat came in office and daid it wss all wrong.., now crime is on the rise and the police are handcuffed again. Sometimes you have to call a spade a spade and handle it the only way they know. Stop and frisk was wildly successful. But noooooo thats racist.... No, its knowing your criminal and targeting it
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I can't believe that someone would actually be ok with stop and frisk... I would have thought that you would be for personal rights and the...
I can't believe that someone would actually be ok with stop and frisk...

I would have thought that you would be for personal rights and the freedom to walk down the street without fear of being fucked with.
Kind of like i used to have the personal right and freedom to choose whether i want health insurance or not? Whether i want a digital electric meter or water meter or thermostat? Or if i want to collect rain water for my garden or not? Carry my gun on my side anywhere in the country?

What personal freedom are you reffering to? Because we are stripped of damn near all of them. You fuck an a right im for stop and frisk. It saved thousands of lives over the years it was implemented.
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Kind of like i used to have the personal right and freedom to choose whether i want health insurance or not? Whether i want a digital...
Kind of like i used to have the personal right and freedom to choose whether i want health insurance or not? Whether i want a digital electric meter or water meter or thermostat? Or if i want to collect rain water for my garden or not? Carry my gun on my side anywhere in the country?

What personal freedom are you reffering to? Because we are stripped of damn near all of them. You fuck an a right im for stop and frisk. It saved thousands of lives over the years it was implemented.
Maybe a better place to start would be

Is there anything you DON"T fucking know???
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Hood rats will be hood rats. never will change.
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5/28/2015 11:46am
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Kind of like i used to have the personal right and freedom to choose whether i want health insurance or not? Whether i want a digital...
Kind of like i used to have the personal right and freedom to choose whether i want health insurance or not? Whether i want a digital electric meter or water meter or thermostat? Or if i want to collect rain water for my garden or not? Carry my gun on my side anywhere in the country?

What personal freedom are you reffering to? Because we are stripped of damn near all of them. You fuck an a right im for stop and frisk. It saved thousands of lives over the years it was implemented.
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Maybe a better place to start would be

Is there anything you DON"T fucking know???
Yes, actually.. What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
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5/28/2015 11:49am
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Yes, actually.. What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
African or European?
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5/28/2015 12:53pm
"Stop and frisk" has been going on in NYC long before Giuliani, they just never made it known as I had been a victim many times and hated it, when my daughter graduated boot camp the MP's pulled me out hundreds of parents to search, when I went but to the bleechers the other proud parents said "man you handled that well" I was eh I'm use to it
5/28/2015 1:10pm
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"Stop and frisk" has been going on in NYC long before Giuliani, they just never made it known as I had been a victim many times...
"Stop and frisk" has been going on in NYC long before Giuliani, they just never made it known as I had been a victim many times and hated it, when my daughter graduated boot camp the MP's pulled me out hundreds of parents to search, when I went but to the bleechers the other proud parents said "man you handled that well" I was eh I'm use to it
So who do you blame for that? and why?....Just curious.
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I don't blame anyone, that's just the way it is for me, I was always searched and just dealt with it, I have nothing to hide, if I did wanna blame something I would say it's the way I chose to look
5/28/2015 1:23pm
Dtat720 wrote:
Gulliani took my approach. It worked and thr community loved him and the police for it. Then a democrat came in office and daid it wss...
Gulliani took my approach. It worked and thr community loved him and the police for it. Then a democrat came in office and daid it wss all wrong.., now crime is on the rise and the police are handcuffed again. Sometimes you have to call a spade a spade and handle it the only way they know. Stop and frisk was wildly successful. But noooooo thats racist.... No, its knowing your criminal and targeting it
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I can't believe that someone would actually be ok with stop and frisk... I would have thought that you would be for personal rights and the...
I can't believe that someone would actually be ok with stop and frisk...

I would have thought that you would be for personal rights and the freedom to walk down the street without fear of being fucked with.
Id be willing to make a bet with you that if you had to view 100 random people walking down the street in a "diverse" neighborhood.......that EVEN YOU could with a high percent of accuracy could pick out ones with criminal backgrounds.

Dont sit there and pretend that the cops were getting it wrong. No they wont always be right, but Im all for letting them hurt your feelings if you look like you are up to no good.
5/28/2015 1:25pm
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I don't blame anyone, that's just the way it is for me, I was always searched and just dealt with it, I have nothing to hide...
I don't blame anyone, that's just the way it is for me, I was always searched and just dealt with it, I have nothing to hide, if I did wanna blame something I would say it's the way I chose to look
WOW! Thanks for the honest answer!
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5/28/2015 1:28pm Edited Date/Time 5/28/2015 1:29pm
Id be willing to make a bet with you that if you had to view 100 random people walking down the street in a "diverse" neighborhood.......that...
Id be willing to make a bet with you that if you had to view 100 random people walking down the street in a "diverse" neighborhood.......that EVEN YOU could with a high percent of accuracy could pick out ones with criminal backgrounds.

Dont sit there and pretend that the cops were getting it wrong. No they wont always be right, but Im all for letting them hurt your feelings if you look like you are up to no good.
I've read that 9 out of 10 people are completely innocent when stopped and frisked.
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5/28/2015 2:01pm
Uncle Tony wrote:
I don't blame anyone, that's just the way it is for me, I was always searched and just dealt with it, I have nothing to hide...
I don't blame anyone, that's just the way it is for me, I was always searched and just dealt with it, I have nothing to hide, if I did wanna blame something I would say it's the way I chose to look
WOW! Thanks for the honest answer!
Thanks man, look I could have cut my hair and looked all status quo but I didn't and dealt with the consequences, so if you wanna look all gangsta and the police or the public stereotype you just deal with it or change the way you look, here's a good analogy Wall Street guys they never get "stop and frisk" and they're the biggest crooks going
5/28/2015 3:03pm
Uncle Tony wrote:
I don't blame anyone, that's just the way it is for me, I was always searched and just dealt with it, I have nothing to hide...
I don't blame anyone, that's just the way it is for me, I was always searched and just dealt with it, I have nothing to hide, if I did wanna blame something I would say it's the way I chose to look
WOW! Thanks for the honest answer!
Uncle Tony wrote:
Thanks man, look I could have cut my hair and looked all status quo but I didn't and dealt with the consequences, so if you wanna...
Thanks man, look I could have cut my hair and looked all status quo but I didn't and dealt with the consequences, so if you wanna look all gangsta and the police or the public stereotype you just deal with it or change the way you look, here's a good analogy Wall Street guys they never get "stop and frisk" and they're the biggest crooks going
This IS true and I agree with that statement!!!!Grinning
But Id have to guess that the avg wall street guy isnt carrying a switch blade or have an illegal 9 mil stuffed down his shorts!
5/28/2015 3:10pm
Id be willing to make a bet with you that if you had to view 100 random people walking down the street in a "diverse" neighborhood.......that...
Id be willing to make a bet with you that if you had to view 100 random people walking down the street in a "diverse" neighborhood.......that EVEN YOU could with a high percent of accuracy could pick out ones with criminal backgrounds.

Dont sit there and pretend that the cops were getting it wrong. No they wont always be right, but Im all for letting them hurt your feelings if you look like you are up to no good.
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I've read that 9 out of 10 people are completely innocent when stopped and frisked.
Oh yeah? Where did you read that? just curious.

BTW..... The frisking had nothing to do with my prior statement.
I stated that with a "high degree of accuracy", one could pick people out by the way they look weather or not they had criminal history.
And if you could watch each of these 100 people interact with or around others for 5 minutes each, I'd speculate that you could approach 100% accuracy.
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Oh yeah? Where did you read that? just curious. BTW..... The frisking had nothing to do with my prior statement. I stated that with a "high...
Oh yeah? Where did you read that? just curious.

BTW..... The frisking had nothing to do with my prior statement.
I stated that with a "high degree of accuracy", one could pick people out by the way they look weather or not they had criminal history.
And if you could watch each of these 100 people interact with or around others for 5 minutes each, I'd speculate that you could approach 100% accuracy.
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5/28/2015 3:40pm Edited Date/Time 5/28/2015 3:41pm
WOW! Thanks for the honest answer!
Uncle Tony wrote:
Thanks man, look I could have cut my hair and looked all status quo but I didn't and dealt with the consequences, so if you wanna...
Thanks man, look I could have cut my hair and looked all status quo but I didn't and dealt with the consequences, so if you wanna look all gangsta and the police or the public stereotype you just deal with it or change the way you look, here's a good analogy Wall Street guys they never get "stop and frisk" and they're the biggest crooks going
This IS true and I agree with that statement!!!!:lol: But Id have to guess that the avg wall street guy isnt carrying a switch blade or...
This IS true and I agree with that statement!!!!Grinning
But Id have to guess that the avg wall street guy isnt carrying a switch blade or have an illegal 9 mil stuffed down his shorts!
Ha true str8, here's a funny story although not stop and frisk, I was in 8th grade and my math teacher,and I will never forget her name, mrs Schmidt was yelling at me saying she didn't like looking at my long hair, I sat in the front row, I said what do you want me to do?well as she was yelling at me the disaplinarian was walking by and said whats going on here, she told him an his reply was" put his desk facing the wall in the back of the classroom and fail him for the rest of the year" this was September, I went on to become an accountant, after completing 8th grade summer school of course lol, at the time it was cool because I got to read dirtbike magazine everyday, MXA wasn't around in 72
5/28/2015 4:05pm
Uncle Tony wrote:
Thanks man, look I could have cut my hair and looked all status quo but I didn't and dealt with the consequences, so if you wanna...
Thanks man, look I could have cut my hair and looked all status quo but I didn't and dealt with the consequences, so if you wanna look all gangsta and the police or the public stereotype you just deal with it or change the way you look, here's a good analogy Wall Street guys they never get "stop and frisk" and they're the biggest crooks going
This IS true and I agree with that statement!!!!:lol: But Id have to guess that the avg wall street guy isnt carrying a switch blade or...
This IS true and I agree with that statement!!!!Grinning
But Id have to guess that the avg wall street guy isnt carrying a switch blade or have an illegal 9 mil stuffed down his shorts!
Uncle Tony wrote:
Ha true str8, here's a funny story although not stop and frisk, I was in 8th grade and my math teacher,and I will never forget her...
Ha true str8, here's a funny story although not stop and frisk, I was in 8th grade and my math teacher,and I will never forget her name, mrs Schmidt was yelling at me saying she didn't like looking at my long hair, I sat in the front row, I said what do you want me to do?well as she was yelling at me the disaplinarian was walking by and said whats going on here, she told him an his reply was" put his desk facing the wall in the back of the classroom and fail him for the rest of the year" this was September, I went on to become an accountant, after completing 8th grade summer school of course lol, at the time it was cool because I got to read dirtbike magazine everyday, MXA wasn't around in 72
Laughing Just for long hair? Yea thats just dumb!
5/28/2015 4:20pm
Id be willing to make a bet with you that if you had to view 100 random people walking down the street in a "diverse" neighborhood.......that...
Id be willing to make a bet with you that if you had to view 100 random people walking down the street in a "diverse" neighborhood.......that EVEN YOU could with a high percent of accuracy could pick out ones with criminal backgrounds.

Dont sit there and pretend that the cops were getting it wrong. No they wont always be right, but Im all for letting them hurt your feelings if you look like you are up to no good.
disbanded wrote:
I've read that 9 out of 10 people are completely innocent when stopped and frisked.
Oh yeah? Where did you read that? just curious. BTW..... The frisking had nothing to do with my prior statement. I stated that with a "high...
Oh yeah? Where did you read that? just curious.

BTW..... The frisking had nothing to do with my prior statement.
I stated that with a "high degree of accuracy", one could pick people out by the way they look weather or not they had criminal history.
And if you could watch each of these 100 people interact with or around others for 5 minutes each, I'd speculate that you could approach 100% accuracy.
Same place we get the "4 out of 5 dentists recommend trident to their patients who chew gum. I can get 9 out of 10 people to agree with whatever I say. Cool






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Laughing Just for long hair? Yea thats just dumb!
Yup that's the way it was in the 70's, my girlfriend at the time lived at 700 park ave and the doormen wouldn't let me take the front elevator up to see her, I had to take the freight elevator up, I was hard working, going to school and never did drugs not even weed but I was stereotyped, so I say deal with it and shut the fuck up or change your image, you get stopped and frisked oh well, I'm white and the cops did it to me plenty of times
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5/28/2015 5:38pm
Id be willing to make a bet with you that if you had to view 100 random people walking down the street in a "diverse" neighborhood.......that...
Id be willing to make a bet with you that if you had to view 100 random people walking down the street in a "diverse" neighborhood.......that EVEN YOU could with a high percent of accuracy could pick out ones with criminal backgrounds.

Dont sit there and pretend that the cops were getting it wrong. No they wont always be right, but Im all for letting them hurt your feelings if you look like you are up to no good.
disbanded wrote:
I've read that 9 out of 10 people are completely innocent when stopped and frisked.
10% success rate for random stops is actually pretty damn good.
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5/28/2015 6:35pm
Huffpo... Thats like giving an NPR link on an "unbiased" republican article... Or slate. Or moveon.org. Or mediamatters. Or slate. Liberal garbage sites with blatant bias. And we all know how much huffpo et al love when "other than democrat" policys work. Its like chicken little to them.
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I heard this black drug slinger being asked about the cops not patrolling and he was pissed because other black guys with no regard for life are jacking his drugs .

He said it was safer when the cops ran guys like himself off the corners.

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