MXGP of Trentino Bench Racing - The Motos

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rcm406 4/19/2015 8:51am
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logan_140 wrote:
I just don't think he gells with the team, he said he feels alone there. New mechanic new everything a 20th place teammate doesn't help the...
I just don't think he gells with the team, he said he feels alone there. New mechanic new everything a 20th place teammate doesn't help the situation...
ocscottie wrote:
You are spot on mate. You know what he needs? Mike Williamson to come over now that he is done w/ Davi.
That won't happen, he kinda threw Kawi USA under the bus when he left to go the GPs!
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struth wrote:
if rv is not injured,maybe he could get out of mxgp contract and go back to ama mx where he will dominate.
You mean like Everts and Carioli......and Herlings in the 250 category?
mikebrownsound 4/19/2015 8:52am
4/19/2015 8:52am
rcm406 wrote:
I kept telling everyone RV is overated in 450 outdoors! He has really never dominated outdoors, especially in the 450's! 2011, he barely won the c'ship...
I kept telling everyone RV is overated in 450 outdoors! He has really never dominated outdoors, especially in the 450's! 2011, he barely won the c'ship and only had 3 wins.(btw, Dungey would've won if not for mechanicals)2013, yes he dominated, but lets face it, Dungey was his only competition! I kinda chuckled inside when all the fanboys said he was going to completely destroy the GP's!
well those people are just blind ? Cause they had no clue about the quality of the europeans. Ofc one more season to adapt would be perfect. Would be the same if Tony came to USA or anyone of them, different tracks and setups etc, time is the best weapon. And "woulda coulda woulda " about dungey, RV won fair and square, you aint a champion because of luck. Consistency is the perfect tool, ask dungey and AC.
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2thefront wrote:
The real story is AC having nothing for nagl so far this year. I guess he's just waiting for nagl to throw it away and get...
The real story is AC having nothing for nagl so far this year. I guess he's just waiting for nagl to throw it away and get hurt.
Nagl is in incredible form right now!

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Alucard 4/19/2015 8:53am
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That 350 is a fucking joke on tracks like these, really... That Husqvarna/KTM of Nagl is twice as fast on uphills and out of slow corners, Cairoli should really start thinking about riding the 450, it's nonsense watching a champion like him struggle for a shitty bike like that... Another potential overall lost for him...
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Motofinne wrote:
RV did look really fast, if Desalle wouldn't have pushed him so hard he would have passed AC. But the bike must have been unrideable? Btw...
RV did look really fast, if Desalle wouldn't have pushed him so hard he would have passed AC.

But the bike must have been unrideable?

Btw, Max Nagl is very very good this year.
RV would not have passed AC. He has been in the same position in almost every race. AC just steps it up if hes about to get passed.
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DA498 4/19/2015 8:53am
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I hope RV will be able to continue on, he brings a lot to the table of MXGP. Im loving the series and the world needs him in the race. Congrats to Nagl on that win, Fast.....
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Thanks. How the hell does a rider of his caliber loop out on a start straight?
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Alucard wrote:
That 350 is a fucking joke on tracks like these, really... That Husqvarna/KTM of Nagl is twice as fast on uphills and out of slow corners...
That 350 is a fucking joke on tracks like these, really... That Husqvarna/KTM of Nagl is twice as fast on uphills and out of slow corners, Cairoli should really start thinking about riding the 450, it's nonsense watching a champion like him struggle for a shitty bike like that... Another potential overall lost for him...
We will see next weekend in the deep sand if that 350 can keep up with the 450s.. Wink
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kongols 4/19/2015 8:55am
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1 25 Desalle, C. BEL SUZ 171
2 12 Nagl, M. GER HUS 170
3 222 Cairoli, A. ITA KTM 170
mikebrownsound 4/19/2015 8:55am
4/19/2015 8:55am
The Source wrote:
4/13/2015 11:49 AM MX1 Nagl, Tony, Paulin, Desalle the wildcard MX2 Jeffery, Ferrandis, Gajser. and Seewar being the wildcard. RV around 10th overall after a few...


4/13/2015 11:49 AM

MX1

Nagl, Tony, Paulin, Desalle the wildcard

MX2

Jeffery, Ferrandis, Gajser. and Seewar being the wildcard.

RV around 10th overall after a few minor get offs and mistakes. Not a good track for the inexperienced with the track to make up positions especially those who push it and charge into further mistakes.

Kiss my ass!!!
Hard to predtict Nagl, Tony, Desalle in any order ? The thing is that you seem to enjoy that RV is struggling thats the ugly side of you ?
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jamma10 4/19/2015 8:56am
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Alucard wrote:
That 350 is a fucking joke on tracks like these, really... That Husqvarna/KTM of Nagl is twice as fast on uphills and out of slow corners...
That 350 is a fucking joke on tracks like these, really... That Husqvarna/KTM of Nagl is twice as fast on uphills and out of slow corners, Cairoli should really start thinking about riding the 450, it's nonsense watching a champion like him struggle for a shitty bike like that... Another potential overall lost for him...
zzzzz I wish you'd stop bleating on about how bad the 350 is. It's getting boring
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Kartwheel84c 4/19/2015 8:56am
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The Source wrote:
4/13/2015 11:49 AM MX1 Nagl, Tony, Paulin, Desalle the wildcard MX2 Jeffery, Ferrandis, Gajser. and Seewar being the wildcard. RV around 10th overall after a few...


4/13/2015 11:49 AM

MX1

Nagl, Tony, Paulin, Desalle the wildcard

MX2

Jeffery, Ferrandis, Gajser. and Seewar being the wildcard.

RV around 10th overall after a few minor get offs and mistakes. Not a good track for the inexperienced with the track to make up positions especially those who push it and charge into further mistakes.

Kiss my ass!!!
But, that isnt what happened. Yes he finished around 10th, but he didnt make a bunch of minor mistakes and then crash trying to "make up positions". He was right behind AC, slowly closing the gap and looking for a spot to pass. For you to say you were correct in anything other than a superficial way is bullshit, but, that is what you do best isnt it?

Bugger off.
TheCynic82 4/19/2015 8:56am
4/19/2015 8:56am
Yeah he should have continued to ride, hes a pussy

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mikebrownsound 4/19/2015 8:57am
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Alucard wrote:
That 350 is a fucking joke on tracks like these, really... That Husqvarna/KTM of Nagl is twice as fast on uphills and out of slow corners...
That 350 is a fucking joke on tracks like these, really... That Husqvarna/KTM of Nagl is twice as fast on uphills and out of slow corners, Cairoli should really start thinking about riding the 450, it's nonsense watching a champion like him struggle for a shitty bike like that... Another potential overall lost for him...
Haha " shitty bike" just made him win 5 championships. Time to get real mr ?
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CrGuy2T 4/19/2015 8:57am
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struth wrote:
if rv is not injured,maybe he could get out of mxgp contract and go back to ama mx where he will dominate.
SlowMoFo wrote:
You mean like Everts and Carioli......and Herlings in the 250 category?
I dont think he wants to be here in the states dominating. He went to Europe looking for exactly what he's going through. He wanted a change and more competition. He also said if he brings back a title that would be great and if not that he is gonna give it his best. I'm hopin he learns from this year on setup and atmosphere to go give it another shot. I'm not counting him out but the odds have not been in his favor since day one.
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Motofinne 4/19/2015 8:59am
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Oh shit, well now i understand why RV didn't continue.

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Allshownogo 4/19/2015 8:59am
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Says who? The tracks are different. Until AC, Desalle, and Nagl come over here and race an entire US series and win it's still debatable. You cannot determine what series has better riders just from MXDN.

Also RV took a year off for knee surgery. Who says Dungey wouldn't be laying pipe to him in SX if RV was racing now? Aldon could have been Dungeys missing link...
mikebrownsound 4/19/2015 9:00am
4/19/2015 9:00am
You are wrong : you cant compare to different series just because they are different. Both side of the pond got world class. But yeah Tony is the master of MXGP`S and to beat him i think you need more then a rookie season even do you are Ryan Villopoto.
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SlowMoFo 4/19/2015 9:00am
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Wrong side, no throttle!
mikebrownsound 4/19/2015 9:01am
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Allshownogo wrote:
Says who? The tracks are different. Until AC, Desalle, and Nagl come over here and race an entire US series and win it's still debatable. You...
Says who? The tracks are different. Until AC, Desalle, and Nagl come over here and race an entire US series and win it's still debatable. You cannot determine what series has better riders just from MXDN.

Also RV took a year off for knee surgery. Who says Dungey wouldn't be laying pipe to him in SX if RV was racing now? Aldon could have been Dungeys missing link...
Well said.
pistolpete451 4/19/2015 9:01am
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Kawi needs to search RV's Locker.
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DA498 4/19/2015 9:02am
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Not the same, but huge respect for Danny.
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Kartwheel84c 4/19/2015 9:02am
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1- He won a round and has been in the top 3-5 except for Qatar and this moto where he crashed, so no.

2- 100% correct, although I would put The Source as tied with St Ann Moore.

3- Negative Ghost Rider, especially the Source

Your editorial, BIG FAT negative.
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TMV 4/19/2015 9:02am
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Ninurta wrote:
Did anyone else notice that Desalle was riding with his left boot wide open.if he puts a leg out he'll finish without it Dry
Seems to happen a lot with those Fox boots...
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DownSouth 4/19/2015 9:02am
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Looks to me like Cairoli and Desalle are getting theire asses kicked as well. Nagl is whupping them all.
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oldrider 4/19/2015 9:02am
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Motofinne wrote:
RV did look really fast, if Desalle wouldn't have pushed him so hard he would have passed AC. But the bike must have been unrideable? Btw...
RV did look really fast, if Desalle wouldn't have pushed him so hard he would have passed AC.

But the bike must have been unrideable?

Btw, Max Nagl is very very good this year.
If...if...if...if my sister had balls would be my brother
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logan_140 wrote:
I just don't think he gells with the team, he said he feels alone there. New mechanic new everything a 20th place teammate doesn't help the...
I just don't think he gells with the team, he said he feels alone there. New mechanic new everything a 20th place teammate doesn't help the situation...
ocscottie wrote:
You are spot on mate. You know what he needs? Mike Williamson to come over now that he is done w/ Davi.
jamma10 wrote:
Imagine how Roczen felt moving to America at 16...
And some slammed him for not kicking ass straight off the bat,you gotta respect anyone who takes the other series on

The track was brutal,not what RV has really seen,it's hard to go WFO,same as the US guys spoke of Teuchental and Kegums,hope he's ok,that was an awesome race
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Alucard 4/19/2015 9:05am
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mikebrownsound wrote:
Haha " shitty bike" just made him win 5 championships. Time to get real mr ?
Yeah, because it was the bike who won those 5 championship, not the superior talent that was riding it... Do you even watched the race? Yes, time to get real...

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