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Fat Fingers 3/20/2015 1:27pm
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Double points at Lommel, great idea. Wonder if they can get that one through lol.
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RY4N37 3/20/2015 1:27pm
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Titan1 wrote:
I think RV should just forget about Lommel...its not the end-all be-all motocross race in the world...its one race in the series...he should focus on all...
I think RV should just forget about Lommel...its not the end-all be-all motocross race in the world...its one race in the series...he should focus on all the other rounds, and go into Lommel looking for a top 10. He can win this title without winning Lommel.

It's ridiculous how much emphasis the GP cheerleaders put on this one race. Obviously they do that because that is where-the only place where-they feel like Cairoli has an edge over Villopoto....but its still ridiculous. It's one race.
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The reason people put so much emphasis on it, is because it's a very important race. It could potentially be the race where the gap between...
The reason people put so much emphasis on it, is because it's a very important race. It could potentially be the race where the gap between Cairoli and RV is the biggest it is all season. Cairoli will more than likely win both motos because he is an absolute beast in the sand. But behind him you'll have all the top regular GP guys, who are all really good in the sand, plus guys like Simpson, Bengtsson, De Dycker etc, who are all better in the sand than on any other surface. So RV will not have to be far off the pace to be a long way back. If RV goes there and only just manages two top tens, then the number of points he loses to Cairoli could be unrecoverable at that point in the season.
Grieby54 wrote:
We are two races into this season, and you're saying that a 10-10 at Lommel would put RV so far back in points that he'll be...
We are two races into this season, and you're saying that a 10-10 at Lommel would put RV so far back in points that he'll be out of contention? You do your best to pretend like you're not biased in all of your annoying posts, but this one betrays that. You have no clue what the points will look like come Lommel. Hell, maybe all RV needs to do is go 10-10 to control his massive points lead. Maybe RV needs to go 1-1 just to be within a race of TC's points. Nobody knows yet, except for you, apparently.
You're right, we have no idea what the points will look like at that stage of the season. My point was that Lommel is an important race because barring any mechanical failures or whatever, it will probably be the biggest points swing between the 2. Forget about when it is in the season or whatever, it's the race where the most people are likely to get between Cairoli and RV, that's my point.
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Grieby54 3/20/2015 1:33pm
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RY4N37 wrote:
You're right, we have no idea what the points will look like at that stage of the season. My point was that Lommel is an important...
You're right, we have no idea what the points will look like at that stage of the season. My point was that Lommel is an important race because barring any mechanical failures or whatever, it will probably be the biggest points swing between the 2. Forget about when it is in the season or whatever, it's the race where the most people are likely to get between Cairoli and RV, that's my point.
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or better?
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RY4N37 3/20/2015 1:47pm
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RY4N37 wrote:
You're right, we have no idea what the points will look like at that stage of the season. My point was that Lommel is an important...
You're right, we have no idea what the points will look like at that stage of the season. My point was that Lommel is an important race because barring any mechanical failures or whatever, it will probably be the biggest points swing between the 2. Forget about when it is in the season or whatever, it's the race where the most people are likely to get between Cairoli and RV, that's my point.
Grieby54 wrote:
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or...
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or better?
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium there

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RY4N37 wrote:
You're right, we have no idea what the points will look like at that stage of the season. My point was that Lommel is an important...
You're right, we have no idea what the points will look like at that stage of the season. My point was that Lommel is an important race because barring any mechanical failures or whatever, it will probably be the biggest points swing between the 2. Forget about when it is in the season or whatever, it's the race where the most people are likely to get between Cairoli and RV, that's my point.
Grieby54 wrote:
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or...
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or better?
RY4N37 wrote:
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium...
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium there
According to RV's practice bike mechanic, Ryan was on the same pace as Jeffrey today in Lommel. He said it, not me.
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karsmakers 3/20/2015 1:55pm
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Watch RV's suspension in the video. Both ends still look pretty damn stiff. The back end swaps out some and the forks never seem to compress more than halfway. It would be interesting to see ryan ride with a setup that gives him more than 7 inches of travel. Kind of hard to get into the flow when your getting beat to shit. I don'e see that when JH or TC smoothly kick ass in the sand. It seems like the stubborn little ginger won't yield much on the suspension settings...even though they had to admit it was to stiff the first race. I don't set up suspensions for a living but it seems logical that he could go faster if he used ALL his travel. Got to agree with the euro's on this one...he needs some work in the sand.
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RY4N37 3/20/2015 2:01pm
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Grieby54 wrote:
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or...
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or better?
RY4N37 wrote:
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium...
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium there
Ripper02 wrote:
According to RV's practice bike mechanic, Ryan was on the same pace as Jeffrey today in Lommel. He said it, not me.
Again, I heard something different to that. We'll have to wait to see where he is when the race comes around
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Grieby54 3/20/2015 2:04pm
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RY4N37 wrote:
You're right, we have no idea what the points will look like at that stage of the season. My point was that Lommel is an important...
You're right, we have no idea what the points will look like at that stage of the season. My point was that Lommel is an important race because barring any mechanical failures or whatever, it will probably be the biggest points swing between the 2. Forget about when it is in the season or whatever, it's the race where the most people are likely to get between Cairoli and RV, that's my point.
Grieby54 wrote:
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or...
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or better?
RY4N37 wrote:
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium...
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium there
So this is based on what you've seen at Lommel last year? Are you also basing on what you've seen from RV outdoors? Have you ever actually seen RV ride a dirt bike in person?
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RY4N37 3/20/2015 2:08pm
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Grieby54 wrote:
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or...
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or better?
RY4N37 wrote:
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium...
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium there
Grieby54 wrote:
So this is based on what you've seen at Lommel last year? Are you also basing on what you've seen from RV outdoors? Have you ever...
So this is based on what you've seen at Lommel last year? Are you also basing on what you've seen from RV outdoors? Have you ever actually seen RV ride a dirt bike in person?
Yes. 5 times
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Grieby54 wrote:
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or...
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or better?
RY4N37 wrote:
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium...
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium there
Ripper02 wrote:
According to RV's practice bike mechanic, Ryan was on the same pace as Jeffrey today in Lommel. He said it, not me.
If that's the case Herlings obiously didn't go as fast as he could(or maybe trying out som suspension settings etc). I'm sorry but to think that RV possesses the same speed as Herlings on Lommel is just nuts Tongue
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Looks.like he has some work to do... and a lot time to do it...
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RY4N37 wrote:
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium...
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium there
Ripper02 wrote:
According to RV's practice bike mechanic, Ryan was on the same pace as Jeffrey today in Lommel. He said it, not me.
RY4N37 wrote:
Again, I heard something different to that. We'll have to wait to see where he is when the race comes around
You heard something different about RV today? What was it?
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RY4N37 3/20/2015 2:11pm
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Ripper02 wrote:
According to RV's practice bike mechanic, Ryan was on the same pace as Jeffrey today in Lommel. He said it, not me.
RY4N37 wrote:
Again, I heard something different to that. We'll have to wait to see where he is when the race comes around
Ripper02 wrote:
You heard something different about RV today? What was it?
Yes. I heard that he followed Herlings for a couple of laps, but that apart from that, he couldn't keep with him
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Titan1 3/20/2015 2:18pm
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RY4N37 wrote:
You're right, we have no idea what the points will look like at that stage of the season. My point was that Lommel is an important...
You're right, we have no idea what the points will look like at that stage of the season. My point was that Lommel is an important race because barring any mechanical failures or whatever, it will probably be the biggest points swing between the 2. Forget about when it is in the season or whatever, it's the race where the most people are likely to get between Cairoli and RV, that's my point.
Grieby54 wrote:
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or...
And you base that on what, exactly? Barcia grabbed 3rd in the MXdN there - what makes you think RV's not capable of doing that or better?
RY4N37 wrote:
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium...
Based on what I saw at Lommel last year. I just think RV will really have his work cut out for him to make the podium there
I love the daisy chain rider comparisons that the GP fans use all the time....Tortelli beat Windham at Glen Helen in 99, and Windham beat Langston at Unadilla in 2004, and Langston beat Reed at Hangtown who beat Stewart several times in supercross, and Stewart lost to Carmichael who lost to Villopoto at the buds creek MXdN who got beat by Desalle in Quatar, and Desalle always gets beat by Cairoli...so of course Herlings is the fastest rider in the entire world and could beat Dungey in a supercross race because Dungey has beat Villopoto in Supercross before.


LOL That's basically what you are doing there.
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Ripper02 3/20/2015 2:19pm
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RY4N37 wrote:
Again, I heard something different to that. We'll have to wait to see where he is when the race comes around
Ripper02 wrote:
You heard something different about RV today? What was it?
RY4N37 wrote:
Yes. I heard that he followed Herlings for a couple of laps, but that apart from that, he couldn't keep with him
Yea I dunno,according to RV's mechanic their best lap time was the same. Now, I highly doubt that he would flat out lie on social media, possibly he could have embellished a little, but either way the teams seems confident with RV's progress in the sand thus far.
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RY4N37 wrote:
Again, I heard something different to that. We'll have to wait to see where he is when the race comes around
Ripper02 wrote:
You heard something different about RV today? What was it?
RY4N37 wrote:
Yes. I heard that he followed Herlings for a couple of laps, but that apart from that, he couldn't keep with him
Who did you hear that from? RV's practice mechanic (on social media), so far, has the most credibility...
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Ripper02 3/20/2015 2:26pm
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Ripper02 wrote:
You heard something different about RV today? What was it?
RY4N37 wrote:
Yes. I heard that he followed Herlings for a couple of laps, but that apart from that, he couldn't keep with him
Titan1 wrote:
Who did you hear that from? RV's practice mechanic (on social media), so far, has the most credibility...


A few other guys on Intsagram from Lommel also said RV was looking very fast
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Ripper02 wrote:
You heard something different about RV today? What was it?
RY4N37 wrote:
Yes. I heard that he followed Herlings for a couple of laps, but that apart from that, he couldn't keep with him
Ripper02 wrote:
Yea I dunno,according to RV's mechanic their best lap time was the same. Now, I highly doubt that he would flat out lie on social media...
Yea I dunno,according to RV's mechanic their best lap time was the same. Now, I highly doubt that he would flat out lie on social media, possibly he could have embellished a little, but either way the teams seems confident with RV's progress in the sand thus far.
and the plot thickens lol

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Grieby54 3/20/2015 2:37pm
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But RY4N37 has seen RV ride 5 times and was at Lommel last year. Everything else is just opinion and RV's mechanic doesn't have a clue.
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Ripper02 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/20/84483/s1200_image.jpg[/img] A few other guys on Intsagram from Lommel also said RV was looking very fast


A few other guys on Intsagram from Lommel also said RV was looking very fast
This may warrant a new thread.
overthebars39 3/20/2015 2:53pm
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Lap time =/= 30+2
Training day =/= race weekend

We can't say shit from a training vid and some laptimes. So pull your panties back up and wait for 2nd of august.
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overthebars39 wrote:
Lap time =/= 30+2 Training day =/= race [b]weekend[/b] We can't say shit from a training vid and some laptimes. So pull your panties back up...
Lap time =/= 30+2
Training day =/= race weekend

We can't say shit from a training vid and some laptimes. So pull your panties back up and wait for 2nd of august.
Oh wait... so now we should not pay attention to practice. Just trying to keep things straight.
captaincrunchy 3/20/2015 2:57pm
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RY4N37 wrote:
Yes. I heard that he followed Herlings for a couple of laps, but that apart from that, he couldn't keep with him
And you were the same guy that heard and believed he was 4 seconds off in the other thread.

You try to portray yourself as being unbiased well, but all you're doing is running your mouth without credible facts. Keep it up though, you're only hyping up for a disappointment when rv crushes your fantasy.
overthebars39 3/20/2015 2:58pm
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overthebars39 wrote:
Lap time =/= 30+2 Training day =/= race [b]weekend[/b] We can't say shit from a training vid and some laptimes. So pull your panties back up...
Lap time =/= 30+2
Training day =/= race weekend

We can't say shit from a training vid and some laptimes. So pull your panties back up and wait for 2nd of august.
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Oh wait... so now we should not pay attention to practice. Just trying to keep things straight.
Sure we should pat attention. But making bold claims (aka making a shit fest) from it is another matter.
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RY4N37 3/20/2015 2:59pm
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RY4N37 wrote:
Yes. I heard that he followed Herlings for a couple of laps, but that apart from that, he couldn't keep with him
Titan1 wrote:
Who did you hear that from? RV's practice mechanic (on social media), so far, has the most credibility...
Ripper02 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/20/84483/s1200_image.jpg[/img] A few other guys on Intsagram from Lommel also said RV was looking very fast


A few other guys on Intsagram from Lommel also said RV was looking very fast
He said both did the same best lap time. RV did pretty much the same best lap time as Desalle in the second race at Qatar but he finished 35 seconds behind him. The fact that he only said best lap time tells me that that RV couldn't match Herlings on most laps, which is pretty much what I'd heard
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RY4N37 3/20/2015 3:00pm
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RY4N37 wrote:
Yes. I heard that he followed Herlings for a couple of laps, but that apart from that, he couldn't keep with him
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And you were the same guy that heard and believed he was 4 seconds off in the other thread. You try to portray yourself as being...
And you were the same guy that heard and believed he was 4 seconds off in the other thread.

You try to portray yourself as being unbiased well, but all you're doing is running your mouth without credible facts. Keep it up though, you're only hyping up for a disappointment when rv crushes your fantasy.
He was. You only have to watch the video at the top of this thread to see that RV is not as good in the sand. But that is totally understandable, he's not used to it, he's there because he's trying to improve
overthebars39 3/20/2015 3:01pm
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RY4N37 wrote:
He said both did the same best lap time. RV did pretty much the same best lap time as Desalle in the second race at Qatar...
He said both did the same best lap time. RV did pretty much the same best lap time as Desalle in the second race at Qatar but he finished 35 seconds behind him. The fact that he only said best lap time tells me that that RV couldn't match Herlings on most laps, which is pretty much what I'd heard
Who says he was trying? Who says both where trying?
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RY4N37 3/20/2015 3:03pm
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Who says he was trying? Who says both where trying?
Nobody. Certainly not me
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Titan1 wrote:
I love the daisy chain rider comparisons that the GP fans use all the time....Tortelli beat Windham at Glen Helen in 99, and Windham beat Langston...
I love the daisy chain rider comparisons that the GP fans use all the time....Tortelli beat Windham at Glen Helen in 99, and Windham beat Langston at Unadilla in 2004, and Langston beat Reed at Hangtown who beat Stewart several times in supercross, and Stewart lost to Carmichael who lost to Villopoto at the buds creek MXdN who got beat by Desalle in Quatar, and Desalle always gets beat by Cairoli...so of course Herlings is the fastest rider in the entire world and could beat Dungey in a supercross race because Dungey has beat Villopoto in Supercross before.


LOL That's basically what you are doing there.
Post of the day.
captaincrunchy 3/20/2015 3:04pm
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RY4N37 wrote:
He was. You only have to watch the video at the top of this thread to see that RV is not as good in the sand...
He was. You only have to watch the video at the top of this thread to see that RV is not as good in the sand. But that is totally understandable, he's not used to it, he's there because he's trying to improve
Yeah, the lap rv pulled in to have his clickers adjusted.

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