Drug Testing In Indy

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steve_97060 3/15/2015 1:17pm
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davistld01 wrote:
A post from a guesser. Tomac then. I missed GuyB's post. Same thing though. I mean does anybody REALLY expect to find one of these three...
A post from a guesser. Tomac then. I missed GuyB's post. Same thing though. I mean does anybody REALLY expect to find one of these three guys doping? Pure waste of the taxpayers dollar.
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Taxpayers? Blink
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is there a drug thread you aren't in?
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davistld01 3/15/2015 1:34pm
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davistld01 wrote:
A post from a guesser. Tomac then. I missed GuyB's post. Same thing though. I mean does anybody REALLY expect to find one of these three...
A post from a guesser. Tomac then. I missed GuyB's post. Same thing though. I mean does anybody REALLY expect to find one of these three guys doping? Pure waste of the taxpayers dollar.
GuyB wrote:
Taxpayers? Blink
Failed attempt at humor. Been a long day...
TripleFive 3/15/2015 1:51pm
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GuyB wrote:
Taxpayers? Blink
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steve_97060 wrote:
is there a drug thread you aren't in?
Of all the different flavors in the world, you choose to be salty.

You treat me like I'm the postman who misplaced the application.
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FIREfish148 3/15/2015 3:36pm
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Seems like there's always new performance enhancing stuff out there. I wonder how often usada and WADA add to the list of banned substances.

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2thefront 3/15/2015 3:42pm
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mom241 wrote:
They took blood as well.

Unless something has changed since Trey was on a 250, they aren't members of the FIM, therefore they aren't tested.
Wow. When did they start taking blood in supercross?
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wsc96 3/15/2015 3:54pm
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A. DLeary wrote:
We can expect the results during the middle of the outdoors.... Not sure why every other orginization can get them back in less than a month...
We can expect the results during the middle of the outdoors.... Not sure why every other orginization can get them back in less than a month including organizations like the NSAC, who also follows WADA protocol.
And then a ruling many months after that...
DavidVuillemin 3/15/2015 3:59pm
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mom241 wrote:
They took blood as well.

Unless something has changed since Trey was on a 250, they aren't members of the FIM, therefore they aren't tested.
They should take DNAs from Ryan, Trey and Tomac and make a "Super" rider... ;-)
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mom241 wrote:
They took blood as well.

Unless something has changed since Trey was on a 250, they aren't members of the FIM, therefore they aren't tested.
DavidVuillemin wrote:
They should take DNAs from Ryan, Trey and Tomac and make a "Super" rider... ;-)
The result would be "David Vuillemin"


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Failed attempt at humor. Been a long day...
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Silliker269 3/15/2015 6:16pm
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Anyone know what is the allowable red blood cell count for USADA/WADA? I was on the site but couldn't find it
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davistld01 3/15/2015 7:38pm
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davistld01 wrote:
Failed attempt at humor. Been a long day...
Outsider wrote:
Right Laughing
Holy shit, you found me again! You just can't help yourself, can you?Laughing
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Nighttrain 3/15/2015 7:43pm
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Silliker269 wrote:
Anyone know what is the allowable red blood cell count for USADA/WADA? I was on the site but couldn't find it
For WADA I think the hematocrit limit is 50% unless an athlete can prove their natural HCT % is higher.
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SLO1667 3/15/2015 7:44pm
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why wasn't #5 sweating after the race when they interviewed him?
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SLO1667 wrote:
why wasn't #5 sweating after the race when they interviewed him?
Cause he's a BAMF on a dirt bike. Smile
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jeffro503 3/15/2015 8:18pm
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SLO1667 wrote:
why wasn't #5 sweating after the race when they interviewed him?
It's called " Being in shape ".........and yeah he was sweatin' , just not as much as others obviously. I have a feeling when the outdoors start.......1/2 way through the season.....everyone else will be sweating harder than him too. Just a wild guess.
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jeffro503 3/15/2015 8:20pm
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BTW.....I did hear something a couple weeks ago. That Aldon said something along the lines as RD actually digs the hard training aspect of it all ......more than anyone else he's trained. Very good work ethic. Take that for what it's worth.
TripleFive 3/15/2015 8:34pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
BTW.....I did hear something a couple weeks ago. That Aldon said something along the lines as RD actually digs the hard training aspect of it all...
BTW.....I did hear something a couple weeks ago. That Aldon said something along the lines as RD actually digs the hard training aspect of it all ......more than anyone else he's trained. Very good work ethic. Take that for what it's worth.
Who would have known? He comes across as such a slack-ass.

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dkg 3/16/2015 12:22am
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mom241 wrote:
They took blood as well.

Unless something has changed since Trey was on a 250, they aren't members of the FIM, therefore they aren't tested.
Hmmm. The good old rule book says both classes are subject to the anti-doping provisions. I wonder why they don't test both classes.

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GeorgiePorgie 3/16/2015 2:07am
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Silliker269 wrote:
Anyone know what is the allowable red blood cell count for USADA/WADA? I was on the site but couldn't find it
Nighttrain wrote:
For WADA I think the hematocrit limit is 50% unless an athlete can prove their natural HCT % is higher.
These guys would be idiots to be blood doping. They're not racing the Tour de France. They're racing 20 lap sprints. No way in hell they are using up all the oxygen carying capacity on the red blood cells in a sx race. No need for more blood, and no need for more than carrying capacity than what they got naturally through training.

Aerobic vs anaerobic isn't really a factor in the sprint like racing situation. Now maybe a gncc. But even then it's doubtful. Unless new gnccs will be 9 days long and continuous racing daily.
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Chadillac661 3/16/2015 2:30am
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Silliker269 wrote:
Anyone know what is the allowable red blood cell count for USADA/WADA? I was on the site but couldn't find it
Nighttrain wrote:
For WADA I think the hematocrit limit is 50% unless an athlete can prove their natural HCT % is higher.
GeorgiePorgie wrote:
These guys would be idiots to be blood doping. They're not racing the Tour de France. They're racing 20 lap sprints. No way in hell they...
These guys would be idiots to be blood doping. They're not racing the Tour de France. They're racing 20 lap sprints. No way in hell they are using up all the oxygen carying capacity on the red blood cells in a sx race. No need for more blood, and no need for more than carrying capacity than what they got naturally through training.

Aerobic vs anaerobic isn't really a factor in the sprint like racing situation. Now maybe a gncc. But even then it's doubtful. Unless new gnccs will be 9 days long and continuous racing daily.
Just FYI, even tennis players are blood doping now. SX racers are at 95-97% of their max HR for the entire race. If you still don't think blood doping is an advantage at that point then I am certain you don't really understand the fitness requirements of the sport.

The bottom line is this; Where there are big $ contracts you will find PED's and blood doping is one of the cornerstones of a "competitive" program.

For a situation like you referenced in the GNCC's, test and HGH would be a much bigger advantage for recovery purposes, much like it is used extensively in cycling.

Just my two cents.



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