Thailand GP Bench Racing - The Motos

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malachi177 3/8/2015 10:38am
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Fact.....Desalle has gone 2-2-2-2 in the first two rounds. He's the best rider out there right now.
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 10:39am
3/8/2015 10:39am
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Cairoli never rode that track before, this is a different track this year. And what do you mean by putting a whole new team together?
Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a team of it.

Kawsaki japan decides wich team or people they want to give out their equipment to. Ryans team didnt exist last year, some of the personal was in other kawi teams.
mattktmhall 3/8/2015 10:41am
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If they didn't cut the motos AC would have won by 30 seconds like RV did . I wouldn't class the venue the same either just because it's in the same country. Yeah I agree cairoli has rode in Thailand before but all tracks in the country are not the same. That track was awful and after the dominance from RV in the first moto and qualification race I did expect him to clean up. Where AC and CD pulled that second moto from I don't know. Credit to all riders that heat must be something else
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 10:41am
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"Its all about points , AC wasnt able to gain any positions in the first moto but RV made quick works on people early on and...
"Its all about points , AC wasnt able to gain any positions in the first moto but RV made quick works on people early on and landed a third for the overall wich tells me Ryan is way better to make quick works than Cairoli, Cairoli always need the starts otherwise he aint comfortable to push it?"

Really? AC went from like 14th to 5th the first moto. Couple of more laps he would have passed Nagl for 4th
14th to 5th in a full moto yes? " a couple more laps and he would" coulda woulda shoulda right?

Ryan 8th to 3rd in a shorter second moto ?

It seems to be like RV is better to pick people of faster than AC but that something RV had since he went pro his style.

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mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 10:43am
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overthebars39 wrote:
No one ever rode that track, how hard is that to comprehend?
Did i say anything else? i was pointing out the venue Thailand and heat? Cause the cut the second moto. I was reffering to the schedule and two day format wich Ryan never had but AC is used to it, like Ryan said i need to learn that.
overthebars39 3/8/2015 10:43am
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why does everyone make it so personal? if your not on the gate, chill the fuck out. its possible to bench race and not get butt...
why does everyone make it so personal? if your not on the gate, chill the fuck out. its possible to bench race and not get butt hurt.

but instead, HE SAID MY GUY SUCKS, I MUST KILL HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Don't even start to talk about the race, in one way or another someone will feel that they discredited 'their' rider.
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FB 3/8/2015 10:45am
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mikebrownsound wrote:
Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a...
Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a team of it.

Kawsaki japan decides wich team or people they want to give out their equipment to. Ryans team didnt exist last year, some of the personal was in other kawi teams.
The Krt Kawasaki team has been around for years
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RY4N37 3/8/2015 10:45am
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FB wrote:
Cairoli never rode that track before, this is a different track this year. And what do you mean by putting a whole new team together?
mikebrownsound wrote:
Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a...
Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a team of it.

Kawsaki japan decides wich team or people they want to give out their equipment to. Ryans team didnt exist last year, some of the personal was in other kawi teams.
What? You really do have no idea what you are talking about. It's the same team that ran Paulin and Frossard last year. You really think there wasn't a factory Kawasaki team till this year?
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 10:46am
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If they didn't cut the motos AC would have won by 30 seconds like RV did . I wouldn't class the venue the same either just...
If they didn't cut the motos AC would have won by 30 seconds like RV did . I wouldn't class the venue the same either just because it's in the same country. Yeah I agree cairoli has rode in Thailand before but all tracks in the country are not the same. That track was awful and after the dominance from RV in the first moto and qualification race I did expect him to clean up. Where AC and CD pulled that second moto from I don't know. Credit to all riders that heat must be something else
Yeah maybe you right. And yeah the heat must have been ridicolous but i still find it a bit comical when people in the booth bragging about how gnarly the world championship is and then suddenly they cut the race because of the heat. Wouldnt happen in america , for example freestone?
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PjotrrB 3/8/2015 10:47am
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FB wrote:
Cairoli never rode that track before, this is a different track this year. And what do you mean by putting a whole new team together?
mikebrownsound wrote:
Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a...
Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a team of it.

Kawsaki japan decides wich team or people they want to give out their equipment to. Ryans team didnt exist last year, some of the personal was in other kawi teams.
??????
The Kawaska Racing Team exists since 1994...
Better check your facts before posting.
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DonM 3/8/2015 10:47am
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mattktmhall wrote:
If they didn't cut the motos AC would have won by 30 seconds like RV did . I wouldn't class the venue the same either just...
If they didn't cut the motos AC would have won by 30 seconds like RV did . I wouldn't class the venue the same either just because it's in the same country. Yeah I agree cairoli has rode in Thailand before but all tracks in the country are not the same. That track was awful and after the dominance from RV in the first moto and qualification race I did expect him to clean up. Where AC and CD pulled that second moto from I don't know. Credit to all riders that heat must be something else
"If they didn't cut the motos AC would have won by 30 seconds like RV did" coulda woulda shoulda....you don't know that....friggin speculators....
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 10:48am
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The Krt Kawasaki team has been around for years
You dont understand dont you ? THE KRT have existed but that is not the same KRT team as before with new personal jeesus

Cause they use the same name KRT does that mean the team is the same as previous years no...?

... and its still a brand new team for Ryan.
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 10:49am
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PjotrrB wrote:
??????
The Kawaska Racing Team exists since 1994...
Better check your facts before posting.
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OMG you guys are hilarious i KNOW KAWASAKI KRT HAVE EXISTED JEESUS but THE PERSONNEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 10:50am
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What? You really do have no idea what you are talking about. It's the same team that ran Paulin and Frossard last year. You really think...
What? You really do have no idea what you are talking about. It's the same team that ran Paulin and Frossard last year. You really think there wasn't a factory Kawasaki team till this year?
ITS NOT THE SAME EXACT PERSONNEL staff are you freaking kidding with me? I know they had a factory kawi team before If you keep posting shit i just put you on ignore, you kinda piss me of.

overthebars39 3/8/2015 10:50am
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"If they didn't cut the motos AC would have won by 30 seconds like RV did" coulda woulda shoulda....you don't know that....friggin speculators....
friggin speculators
Err, this forum is full of speculation. Ofc if it's not in favour of RV (The US actually) then ppl get mad. Whistling
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philG 3/8/2015 10:51am
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ITS NOT THE SAME EXACT PERSONNEL staff are you freaking kidding with me? I know they had a factory kawi team before If you keep posting...
ITS NOT THE SAME EXACT PERSONNEL staff are you freaking kidding with me? I know they had a factory kawi team before If you keep posting shit i just put you on ignore, you kinda piss me of.

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TMV 3/8/2015 11:01am
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mikebrownsound wrote:
definitly not but since the weather had such a huge factor that they even had to cut the second moto the field thats been in thailand...
definitly not but since the weather had such a huge factor that they even had to cut the second moto the field thats been in thailand before , you tell me that didnt have the heat issue in their mind ?


Anyway you didnt answer my question you actually trying to ignore it you dont like the fact that americans belives RV is better than AC? Cause there is a reason people from europe are on this site arguing about the subject just because the fact that plenty of people from europe are pissed of that the americans belives RV will dominate and when he dont people just have to counter and feeds on ryans bad performance in Qatar?

And again you did not answer : If you are used to a schedule and a series does it give you the advantage or not?

I dont know if you are one of those but ive seen PLENTY of haters from both side of the pond and i find both ridicolous.
95°F with 80 to 100% of humidity, that's really rare in FL and pretty common in Europe...

I think Ryan is the fastet man on a MX track and as said above I'm rooting for him, is that answering your question?

If you want a more developped answer I'm happy he showed the real RV today (and yesterday) and took the overall but I'm also glad he couldn't keep the pace of Desalle and Cairoli and they they gapped him straight up in the second moto just to show the nut huggers he's human too and yes they're other really capable guys who can keep him honest in Europe too.

What I don't like is ignorance disrespect and guys from each side of the pond looking for excuses all the time. RV is not looking for excuses himself about that second moto, just said AC and Desalle were fast and it was tough. THAT is classy, some in here should take him as an example.





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PabstBR11 3/8/2015 11:02am
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mikebrownsound wrote:
Who said it was huge? But he still rode there before right? Whats the squawk? And no Cairoli does not only train in belgium he rides...
Who said it was huge? But he still rode there before right? Whats the squawk? And no Cairoli does not only train in belgium he rides a little bit here and there in europe ? Still a rookie in the MXGP cairoli is the champ shouldnt he win by ease?

I would love to see AC take a year of come to USA put a whole new team together and win a overall in the second race, that would NEVER happend cause he is to comfy in europe. I respect Tony but if there is someone who can challenge him as a rookie it will be Ryan.

It seems like people from europe are very upset that americans belive Ryan is faster than AC why is that?

I personally never thought it was going to be easy for Ryan to go over and crush the field ive been following the gp´s for a long time and i know how fast AC is but personaly with pure raw speed i think Ryan is faster but in the end its all about points and that is were AC is the master and every venue you go to is still advantage for Antonio cause he is used to the schedule and everything that goes with it.

The pressure is quite equal if you ask me, Ryan needs to prove the haters wrong and AC needs to prove he can beat RV in "his own series"
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This year the french GP is held in Ernée instead of St Jean d'Angély. I suppose the guys who has already ridden once in St Jean...
This year the french GP is held in Ernée instead of St Jean d'Angély. I suppose the guys who has already ridden once in St Jean will have a fair advantage since it's also in France... Huh
Im glad you brought up Ernee, I have wanted to talk about it but not start a new thread. I have been playing it on the mxgp game and wondered how that thing is safe for pros? If somebody jumped over a lane there would be major carnage! I've never seen a track like that till I played and it looks Nuts! All those white picket fences!
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 11:02am
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No answer from RY4N37 seems like he knows alot about the structure of Kawasaki corporation.. " A name KRT according to him" tells if the team and staff is the same each year haha. Clueless britt.
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TMV 3/8/2015 11:04am
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mikebrownsound wrote:
Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a...
Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a team of it.

Kawsaki japan decides wich team or people they want to give out their equipment to. Ryans team didnt exist last year, some of the personal was in other kawi teams.
WTF!!!! I'm not even talking to you anymore...
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Reading these last pages gave me a fucking headache!
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karsmakers 3/8/2015 11:06am
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I was equally impressed with all three of the top riders. Now can we stop the arguing?
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 11:06am
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95°F with 80 to 100% of humidity, that's really rare in FL and pretty common in Europe... I think Ryan is the fastet man on a...
95°F with 80 to 100% of humidity, that's really rare in FL and pretty common in Europe...

I think Ryan is the fastet man on a MX track and as said above I'm rooting for him, is that answering your question?

If you want a more developped answer I'm happy he showed the real RV today (and yesterday) and took the overall but I'm also glad he couldn't keep the pace of Desalle and Cairoli and they they gapped him straight up in the second moto just to show the nut huggers he's human too and yes they're other really capable guys who can keep him honest in Europe too.

What I don't like is ignorance disrespect and guys from each side of the pond looking for excuses all the time. RV is not looking for excuses himself about that second moto, just said AC and Desalle were fast and it was tough. THAT is classy, some in here should take him as an example.





Well said and i agree. I would agree that Ryan is used to the heat but so is AC origin from Sicily , ive been there and its hot as hell but maybe a different hot.

It makes up for a good season and Argentina will be interesting. Almost like i want these first three races to be over so they can start to race in europe and then we really can tell how the championship will break up.
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 11:06am
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WTF!!!! I'm not even talking to you anymore...
Tongue hehe my bad then !
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 11:09am
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karsmakers wrote:
I was equally impressed with all three of the top riders. Now can we stop the arguing?
Not when people like RY4N37 trying to give information about teams that is incorrect, but other than that ofc we can. I was to and i hope RV goes 1-1 in Argentina and that Paul Malin gives out correct information about riders. Tyla left ktm 2002 to race kawi since then haha ridicolous.
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TMV 3/8/2015 11:22am
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mikebrownsound wrote:
Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a...
Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a team of it.

Kawsaki japan decides wich team or people they want to give out their equipment to. Ryans team didnt exist last year, some of the personal was in other kawi teams.
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WTF!!!! I'm not even talking to you anymore...
What are you going to say now...





https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kawasaki-MX-Racing-Team/487300311306525

Complete new team indeed... 2 new guys...
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 11:40am
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TMV wrote:
What are you going to say now... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/08/83017/s1200_krt1.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/08/83018/s1200_krt2.jpg[/img] https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kawasaki-MX-Racing-Team/487300311306525 Complete new team indeed... 2 new guys...
What are you going to say now...





https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kawasaki-MX-Racing-Team/487300311306525

Complete new team indeed... 2 new guys...
Complete new team for Ryan yes? cant you read the word "most there "? And as you can see they dont show the whole staff there. Plenty of people around Ryan to not just the mechanics right , suspension crew? You got gear sponsor, monster people from europe. Did you post anything of them ?
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philG 3/8/2015 11:42am
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TMV wrote:
What are you going to say now... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/08/83017/s1200_krt1.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/08/83018/s1200_krt2.jpg[/img] https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kawasaki-MX-Racing-Team/487300311306525 Complete new team indeed... 2 new guys...
What are you going to say now...





https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kawasaki-MX-Racing-Team/487300311306525

Complete new team indeed... 2 new guys...
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Complete new team for Ryan yes? cant you read the word "most there "? And as you can see they dont show the whole staff there...
Complete new team for Ryan yes? cant you read the word "most there "? And as you can see they dont show the whole staff there. Plenty of people around Ryan to not just the mechanics right , suspension crew? You got gear sponsor, monster people from europe. Did you post anything of them ?
lies ... all lies.
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 11:46am
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lies ... all lies.
Is it not a new team from Ryan new people ? New staff members? Or was it exact the same as last year? Well ive seen you posting alot of shits before so you going to the ignore list now. Tired of britts like you with no knowledge at all keyboard warrior.. The difference between me and you is that i know people within the industry and you dont cause you sit here on vital posting shit all day long.

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