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Jody specifically,,, in the 10 things you need to know, under a photo of Hanny is the description "The AMA should watch this guy’s every move with a magnifying glass."
and then they point to it a few times here:
(8) AMA/FIM GUMPTION: People who love “Good Chad” and those who hate “Bad Chad” all agree that the AMA needs to begin enforcing some kind of rule against blatant take-out moves (shouldn’t Josh Hansen be on permanent vacation?). But, before they start doing that, they need to get a brain. Last year Mike Alessi’s blatant take-out move on Broc Tickle earned Mike a $4000 fine. But, and this is the kicker, they then handed him a $1500 check for getting the holeshot in the 450 main and $2780 for a fifth place finish — which means that after his $4000 fine, Mike Alessi made a net profit of $280. Plus, they let him keep his 15 points for the night. Oh yeah, they put him on probation — which means nothing. Probation is a fake AMA action. “Bad Chad” on the other hand gets black flagged, disqualified, loses his points and doesn’t get any money (22nd place pays $1415). Where did Alessi’s $4000 fine come from? Where did the Reed’s black flag come from? Do they make this stuff up as they go? The rule that should be applied in these cases is “endangering another rider.” However, intent is what counts — Chad and Mike both had bad intentions (as did Josh Hansen in his 250 West escapade with Shane McElrath). The obvious penalty for the “intent” to endanger another rider is disqualification, loss of points and surrender of all and any prize money from that event. We accepted that the AMA/FIM are the judge and jury in these calls, and there will be some cases where they will be wrong, but they will always be wrong when they do nothing or apply the rules all willy nilly. If the AMA and FIM want respect, which they have yet to deserve, they should protect the riders from angry vigilantes out seeking revenge. Start enforcing this rule at the very least — we know they don’t enforce very many of the other ones. But this one really matters. What would we be saying if Trey Canard was laying in a hospital bed today because of Chad’s blatant take-out move?
and then they point to it a few times here:
(8) AMA/FIM GUMPTION: People who love “Good Chad” and those who hate “Bad Chad” all agree that the AMA needs to begin enforcing some kind of rule against blatant take-out moves (shouldn’t Josh Hansen be on permanent vacation?). But, before they start doing that, they need to get a brain. Last year Mike Alessi’s blatant take-out move on Broc Tickle earned Mike a $4000 fine. But, and this is the kicker, they then handed him a $1500 check for getting the holeshot in the 450 main and $2780 for a fifth place finish — which means that after his $4000 fine, Mike Alessi made a net profit of $280. Plus, they let him keep his 15 points for the night. Oh yeah, they put him on probation — which means nothing. Probation is a fake AMA action. “Bad Chad” on the other hand gets black flagged, disqualified, loses his points and doesn’t get any money (22nd place pays $1415). Where did Alessi’s $4000 fine come from? Where did the Reed’s black flag come from? Do they make this stuff up as they go? The rule that should be applied in these cases is “endangering another rider.” However, intent is what counts — Chad and Mike both had bad intentions (as did Josh Hansen in his 250 West escapade with Shane McElrath). The obvious penalty for the “intent” to endanger another rider is disqualification, loss of points and surrender of all and any prize money from that event. We accepted that the AMA/FIM are the judge and jury in these calls, and there will be some cases where they will be wrong, but they will always be wrong when they do nothing or apply the rules all willy nilly. If the AMA and FIM want respect, which they have yet to deserve, they should protect the riders from angry vigilantes out seeking revenge. Start enforcing this rule at the very least — we know they don’t enforce very many of the other ones. But this one really matters. What would we be saying if Trey Canard was laying in a hospital bed today because of Chad’s blatant take-out move?
NCAA, joke. NFL, pussification of the game. IRL/ Indycar, ruined that series. Nascar, good ole boy shit.
Pussification of SX right here and now.
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Part of the problem seems to be that Supercross has long policed itself with certain 'unspoken rules', where on-rack retribution is often waived by officials and celebrated by fans. Yet in just about any other sport retribution is penalised.
In my mind giving Reed the black flag was a rash decision, but Reed should not have tempted fate and given the race officials reason to consider punishment in the first place.
I hope it will not become like F1 where everything is under investigation and people are getting fined each move
Really...
Anytime you have a human officiating an event you're going to have emotion factored into the decisions. The fan has to determine how much they can tolerate.
The NFL doesn't bother me that much. At least they review all touchdowns and turnovers.
I don't believe it had anything to do with favoritism or anything like that. I also don't believe a black flag was warranted but Reed clearly was pissed and there's no way of knowing whether he would have done further damage given the opportunity.
Gallagher is in a no win situation unfortunately.
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Let the boys play. Hell Nascar does it a 200mph!
If you send Hansen on permenant vacation you also need up send Barcia, Reed, Millsaps Brayton, Canard, Roczen Dungey and everyone else on permenant vacation because everyone will make a pass like Hansen did sometime in the season.
Bottom line even all the debates on here and throughout all social media proves one thing....No one person should be allowed to make decisions regarding the racing...If something happens and needs to be dealt with it's done through a committee and dealt with after the fact when cooler heads prevail...
The part about tempting fate is something that many of us have done and lived to regret it. Chad's the latest, I have done it more than once and I think even Tony Stewart did it at the Sprint Car race. I don't think he meant to hit the guy (plus the guy was an idiot to be on the track) but it did look like he blipped the throttle.
A momentary impulse can change our life or others around us lives for ever in the freaking blink of an eye. Sorry doesn't cut it when people are harmed. Impulse control is something that if can be mastered or controlled can yield huge dividends but the problem is racers are emotional beings and stuff happens when temper flares.
The old adage about counting to ten sounds a little corny but so much can happen and will happen if we just think over our next step for ten seconds. The satisfaction of letting an emotion loose can pale in comparison to the satisfaction of knowing we were a friend to our future self by not allowing our emotions to drive our actions.
1) Have you ever said "I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do that?"
2) Does intention matter? Intention doesn't matter to WADA but in your mind is there a difference in Trey unintentionally landing on Chad and Chad's move on Trey?
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