So.....it's USA vs the rest of the world?

10/1/2014 1:12am Edited Date/Time 10/1/2014 1:14am
Park Boys wrote:
It's always us vs them, has been for years and no matter what different country wins they will brag as if it were there own.
you did well- just managed to scrape a podium this year- simpsons chain breaking in the final moto gave you JUST enough points to beat team...
you did well- just managed to scrape a podium this year- simpsons chain breaking in the final moto gave you JUST enough points to beat team GB for the final podium position overall

Well done though- no need to be butthurt, france were the better team and fully deserved the win this year. No need for the excuses
Park Boys wrote:
I didn't make any excuses here, can you point them out to me. As far as Simpsons chain breaking big deal Martins crash on Saturday had...
I didn't make any excuses here, can you point them out to me. As far as Simpsons chain breaking big deal Martins crash on Saturday had a pretty big effect don't ya think. Maybe if your guys had more podium potential other than who Wilson is your best rider and he don't even race GP's and hasn't podiumed in a AMA MX race for years. At least we put two different guys on the box. As far as France they are a MX nation. Belgium and France are always a threat. FYI- Tommy did ride well though, maybe if he would have showed that kind of potential in America where he wanted to race and stay he would have been able to last longer than two years in the AMA with 0 moto wins.
tommy rode great at the weekend- cant ask any better than winning his class and being top 5 overall in one moto! the race where him and wilson finished 3rd and 4th they both looked very good.

tommys us career was riddled with bad luck- he actually led almost the full moto on his debut (hangtown?) - getting passed by pourcel on the final lap. After that he got injured and wasnt fully fit for the whole season. Shame really, when he's fully fit he is a force to be reckoned with on that 250f- beat herlings straight up at matterly basin, and gave him a good run for his money at a few other rounds that year.

Was only pointing out my statement actually turned out to be true against all odds! lol - i thought usa would have done alot better than they did after all the injuries/ absentees this year (when i said it herlings wasnt injured, roczen hadnt announced he wasnt riding, desalle wasnt injured etc) - having only said it in the first place to try and wind you up, maybe i should have bought a lottery ticket that week, didnt realise my crystal ball was working so accurately! haha

it still turned out to be a great race, despite all the riders that were missing this year. I felt really sorry for cairoli- i was expecting him to drop the hammer any minute in that moto- he's had alot of bad luck at the nations, aswel as alot of very good races! tomac seemed to wear himself out in the first moto, then more than made up for it in the last one with a very impressive ride. Dungey rode really well in the first one- i thought he did really well to hold off nagl and van hoerbeek (even though we heard afterwards JVH was injured)

martin- well, i was gutted that we didnt see him at 100%. It would have been a good race with him, tommy and cairoli if they all managed to keep it on 2 wheels and got off the start. The poor starts were your main failure this year. Thats how it is at the nations though- you need a bit of luck!

france were fantastic all weekend! paulin looked awesome, rode absolutely flawlessly, and in my opinion could have stepped it up if he had to, he was at the front controlling the race- smooth as silk! im excited for the mx1 gp season next year- its going to be great to watch cairoli vs RV, i think a fully fit paulin, desalle and JVH will have something for them too!

searle will be a good fit on the 350- he rides the 250f much better than the 450 (just like cairoli) so the factory 350 will be a very good fit for him in my opinion.

great time to be a moto fan!!!
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10/1/2014 1:24am Edited Date/Time 10/1/2014 1:28am
That moto at Hangtown was the first race of Tommys second outdoor season after sitting out most of the Supercross series with injury. He re-injured his shoulder in the second race at Hangtown, which fucked up the rest of his year and basically resulted in him returning to GPs.

In their debut season in 2009 Searle finished three places ahead of Rattray. Rattray then went on to finish 2nd in the series for the next two consecutive years. I'd like to think Searle would have been right up there with him had he not injured himself in such an innocuous practice crash at A2 at the start of 2010.

Searle was also riding as KTMs solitary rider in the Lites class and that Jagermeister team doesn't even compare to the factory effort KTM now has in America. He still bagged a handful of podiums in a very cometitive classl including Pourcel, Dungey, Barcia, Metcalfe, Weimer, Canard etc.

Had he not injured that shoulder things could have been very different.
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10/1/2014 2:12am
you did well- just managed to scrape a podium this year- simpsons chain breaking in the final moto gave you JUST enough points to beat team...
you did well- just managed to scrape a podium this year- simpsons chain breaking in the final moto gave you JUST enough points to beat team GB for the final podium position overall

Well done though- no need to be butthurt, france were the better team and fully deserved the win this year. No need for the excuses
Park Boys wrote:
I didn't make any excuses here, can you point them out to me. As far as Simpsons chain breaking big deal Martins crash on Saturday had...
I didn't make any excuses here, can you point them out to me. As far as Simpsons chain breaking big deal Martins crash on Saturday had a pretty big effect don't ya think. Maybe if your guys had more podium potential other than who Wilson is your best rider and he don't even race GP's and hasn't podiumed in a AMA MX race for years. At least we put two different guys on the box. As far as France they are a MX nation. Belgium and France are always a threat. FYI- Tommy did ride well though, maybe if he would have showed that kind of potential in America where he wanted to race and stay he would have been able to last longer than two years in the AMA with 0 moto wins.
tommy rode great at the weekend- cant ask any better than winning his class and being top 5 overall in one moto! the race where him...
tommy rode great at the weekend- cant ask any better than winning his class and being top 5 overall in one moto! the race where him and wilson finished 3rd and 4th they both looked very good.

tommys us career was riddled with bad luck- he actually led almost the full moto on his debut (hangtown?) - getting passed by pourcel on the final lap. After that he got injured and wasnt fully fit for the whole season. Shame really, when he's fully fit he is a force to be reckoned with on that 250f- beat herlings straight up at matterly basin, and gave him a good run for his money at a few other rounds that year.

Was only pointing out my statement actually turned out to be true against all odds! lol - i thought usa would have done alot better than they did after all the injuries/ absentees this year (when i said it herlings wasnt injured, roczen hadnt announced he wasnt riding, desalle wasnt injured etc) - having only said it in the first place to try and wind you up, maybe i should have bought a lottery ticket that week, didnt realise my crystal ball was working so accurately! haha

it still turned out to be a great race, despite all the riders that were missing this year. I felt really sorry for cairoli- i was expecting him to drop the hammer any minute in that moto- he's had alot of bad luck at the nations, aswel as alot of very good races! tomac seemed to wear himself out in the first moto, then more than made up for it in the last one with a very impressive ride. Dungey rode really well in the first one- i thought he did really well to hold off nagl and van hoerbeek (even though we heard afterwards JVH was injured)

martin- well, i was gutted that we didnt see him at 100%. It would have been a good race with him, tommy and cairoli if they all managed to keep it on 2 wheels and got off the start. The poor starts were your main failure this year. Thats how it is at the nations though- you need a bit of luck!

france were fantastic all weekend! paulin looked awesome, rode absolutely flawlessly, and in my opinion could have stepped it up if he had to, he was at the front controlling the race- smooth as silk! im excited for the mx1 gp season next year- its going to be great to watch cairoli vs RV, i think a fully fit paulin, desalle and JVH will have something for them too!

searle will be a good fit on the 350- he rides the 250f much better than the 450 (just like cairoli) so the factory 350 will be a very good fit for him in my opinion.

great time to be a moto fan!!!
Someone posted another clip of Tommy in a great battle with Dungey and a bunch of other guys,he could certainly run with some great competition,he did what lots of Euros seem to do didn't he injure a wrist too?

On a 450 i expect he'd have finished better than Wilson,who looked pretty good out there,he'd probably be top 10 over here
10/2/2014 2:35am
jeffro503 wrote:
According to Jamie in this thread here >> http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/1-year-of-butthurt-as-you-call-it,1276138 It sounds like it is? You have guys from GBR bragging that team USA lost. You have...
According to Jamie in this thread here >> http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/1-year-of-butthurt-as-you…

It sounds like it is? You have guys from GBR bragging that team USA lost. You have guys from other countries bragging that team USA lost when our team just beat yours??

To me.....I don't think anyone that isn't from France or Belgium Should be boasting.....but there are.

So....it's 3 riders vs 37 correct?

Why don't we do a 20 vs 20 rider race then? 20 Americans vs 20 European riders from any country? And then have every other year held here in the states and the other years , the country of their choosing?

I mean hell.......I always thought it was a country vs country thing Every country having 3 riders )....not USA vs everyone else?

If it is like that.....why not level the playing field a little?

Also ( and I'm not complaining just asking )......but what is it with all the tracks all of a sudden being sand pits? Until a few years ago I can only remember maybe once or twice ever it was a sand track. Now it seems like they are all sand tracks over there? At least the MXoN's races seem to be. You would think since they still have DIRT tracks over there we could have some races on DIRT? We don't have sand tracks like that here........maybe that could help level things out a bit?

I honestly don't get why we have to race on sand tracks every year as of late. And they seem to be more and more common over there.

So we get to send 3 riders to race on a surface that we DON'T have here........and we have to race against 37 other riders that do? Or at least all the faster GP guys do anyways.

Is next year another sand track? Or is France an actual dirt track?
No one is bragging about Team USA lost. They got third which is pretty damn good.

It's every country for themselves, you didn't see GP riders helping each other out, they actually took each other out sometimes, so that is incorrect.

I do believe that Europe would win by a bigger margin if it was 20 vs. 20.

USA have a lot more riders to choose from than Belgium, GBR, Germany etc - every other country (other than France) had a rider who was not TOP caliber this year (Simpson GBR, Lieber Belgium, Bryliakov Russia, Phillipearts Italy, Kromhof and de Reuver Holland etc.)

Lommel was sand, Teutchenthal was definitely not sand, but clay (did you even watch the race?), and Kegums is normally harder in the summer, but riders commented that this was more like Southwick, and that they liked it.

Next year is very hard pack, hard as California, but darker dirt.

Just sorting your comments right :-)

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10/2/2014 2:37am
How cool would it be if USA had a Motocross of States?
And the 3 (5,7,9) best states went to the MXoN - THAT would be fair actually.
Then it would be much more even, considering that Europe can not send a whole team.

Just thinking here, haha.
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These are the ten largest countries that embrace motocross in their culture. USA population 318,827,000 Germany population 80,781,000 France population 66,360,000 UK population 64,105,654 Spain population...
These are the ten largest countries that embrace motocross in their culture.

USA population 318,827,000

Germany population 80,781,000
France population 66,360,000
UK population 64,105,654
Spain population 46,507,800
Canada population 35,540,419
Australia population 23,614,800
Netherlands population 16,870,200
Belguim population 11,207,699
Sweden population 9,705,005
etc.

Can you say massive unfair advantage?

They are basically the UN united states as a whole group.

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