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PressPassP 4/22/2014 2:14pm
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JonnyDH84 wrote:
Even having one American round would be better its a world championship so why not go to america like f1 motogp etc do.
GuyB wrote:
Fan interest was terrible the last couple times here. Even at Glen Helen. There was good racing, works bikes, and we had a great time checking...
Fan interest was terrible the last couple times here. Even at Glen Helen. There was good racing, works bikes, and we had a great time checking out. But there was almost zero interest. It'll be interesting to see how the crowd compares this year when the National lines up there.
I came over for both,the Alessi v Cairoli race was amazing and went down a storm,I also did the last National the previous year and can only imagine the atmosphere if the crowd was like that! Could well be buisness as usual this year,it's an awesome place
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jamma10 4/22/2014 2:17pm
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DC wrote:
Jamma, Dave invites me every year and I have heard from Ryno and Burner and Lechien that it's just an amazing event... Someday soon, but I...
Jamma, Dave invites me every year and I have heard from Ryno and Burner and Lechien that it's just an amazing event... Someday soon, but I will have to get my butt in shape and get drafted onto Rory O'Neil's Team International Air Hammer first!

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You wouldn't be expected to race, just cruise around and enjoy the weekend like Johnny O'Hannah did.

It's often the week before or after the MXdN itself. Nearby Bath is one of the most picturesque cities in Britain and the surrounding counties have lots to offer so you could always entice the missus along on the basis of it being a 'cultural' holiday... Smile
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DC 4/22/2014 2:21pm
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Whoa, big difference between me and Johnny O'Hannah: I actually raced pro, and I use my real name! Love the man, but if I come to Farleigh Castle I am coming to race, not cruise around... But I will after the race. (Three laps, right?!)

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philG 4/22/2014 2:23pm
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It's a great weekend to just be at , let alone ride, and every year it gets bigger, and the racing gets better. if there was a better race than Brian Wheeler and John Dowd going at it last year , I'd be surprised

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philG 4/22/2014 2:29pm
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It's a great weekend to just be at , let alone ride, and every year it gets bigger, and the racing gets better. if there was a better race than Brian Wheeler and John Dowd going at it last year , I'd be surprised
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jtomasik wrote:
[img]https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LIl5ocv-aso/THAaHpvYtzI/AAAAAAAAAm8/BgACQtWl-rY/s1600/2911073763_cb4c44de13.jpg[/img] I wouldn't want to go, either.


I wouldn't want to go, either.
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Europe's women beat ours hands down...... much fitter on average. Spanish girls good god are they hot and don't even get me started on the Scandinavian...
Europe's women beat ours hands down...... much fitter on average. Spanish girls good god are they hot and don't even get me started on the Scandinavian beauties. The flip side of this would be a fat hog in front if McDonalds in 'Merica I hope all Euros don't think all of our women look like that.
You tried "farmersonly.com" ? Ain't nothing like a mountain girl raised on cornbread beans and creasy greens.
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jtomasik 4/22/2014 2:34pm
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JonnyDH84 wrote:
Even having one American round would be better its a world championship so why not go to america like f1 motogp etc do.
GuyB wrote:
Fan interest was terrible the last couple times here. Even at Glen Helen. There was good racing, works bikes, and we had a great time checking...
Fan interest was terrible the last couple times here. Even at Glen Helen. There was good racing, works bikes, and we had a great time checking out. But there was almost zero interest. It'll be interesting to see how the crowd compares this year when the National lines up there.
MXDN vs. a race that's part of the AMA Nat's isn't exactly apples to oranges. I'd expect the same turnout as you'd see at any other National, if not even better. Replacing the slowest half of the field with the top FIM riders, all racing simply for points in their respective series, sounds like an amazing race. The MXDN is kind of a circus show (aside from just seeing the riders, its logic is idiotic), and it has nothing to do with either championship race.
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DC 4/22/2014 2:34pm
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Me and Werner De Wit do have some unfinished business....

Not really, I just always wanted to say something like that. He'd still kick my ass!

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philG 4/22/2014 2:53pm
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He still hauls DC, you might go to bar to bar till the gate goes, but that will be it. nice guy too, underrated rider in his day IMO .
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GuyB 4/22/2014 3:29pm
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This thread was about U.S. riders competing in the GPs, and also referenced having a GP here. That's what I responded to.

When the MXoN returns to GH, I hope it's packed wall-to-wall with fans.
louis.bernard.564 4/22/2014 3:33pm
4/22/2014 3:33pm
Big Lenny wrote:
After watching the GP's on TV and seeing some of the tracks/pics and scenery posted here, why would a young MX'er not want to spend a...
After watching the GP's on TV and seeing some of the tracks/pics and scenery posted here, why would a young MX'er not want to spend a couple or years racing across the pond for a World Title?..You only live once, right?..
I think if a young rider wants to win just 1 main event in his career, his mindset must be that he train to win every single race possible, just to dominate like when Stewart came with his 125. So that includes the GPs.

However for me the best has to win in SX too.

That is why I usually like GP talents in the US, that makes the pedigree just much more complete.
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The Rock 4/22/2014 6:18pm
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Lenny, I have been watching all of the GP races for years online, and I really enjoy them too. I have been to the last five...
Lenny, I have been watching all of the GP races for years online, and I really enjoy them too. I have been to the last five or six MXoN races. While I don't put as much stock into the MXoN results -- whether it's win or lose for the Americans -- as some on here do, I have seen Cairoli and Herlings and Paulin and of course Roczen put on stunning performances. The top guys on either side of the pond are very comparable outdoors, which maybe explains why Tomac won the outdoor title but Roczen won the MX2 four times in a row now!
But bad luck and crashes (and sand) haven't been going our way lately. I don't think we're getting any slower, but as a team we just haven't been getting it done the last two times (which coincide with RV not going, but that's racing.)

I don't get why it always breaks down to U.S. against them, but it makes the between-races-waiting somewhat tolerable!

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While I don't put as much stock into the MXoN results -- whether it's win or lose for the Americans -- as some on here do

First off loved your earlier post summarizing the difference between you growing up wanting to be Mikkola and today's youths (spoken with a Joe Pesci intonation from My Cousin Vinnie) with their focus on SX.

Regarding stock in MXoN results with all the variables for sure it is tough to use one event to "settle" at least for a year the silly "who is the fastest" question but for me I prefer to use it as a benchmark for the depth of GP talent as a whole. I think the depth of talent in Europe even with Cairolli and Herlings domination is deeper than it has been in a long time and the last two MXoNs certainly speak to that.

As a MX fan I think it is great the Euros are "gettin' some respect' as a result.
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HuskyEd 4/22/2014 7:32pm
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Seems this last weekend was a great non SX weekend. The US moto fans tuned in and watched the Bulgarian GP to get their moto fix. That Bulgarian track looked brutal with some gnarly uphill and downhill sections that looked like they could rival Glen Helen. So glad that CBS sports picked up the ball on the GP series. There is some top notch racing from some wonderful venues. Who knows, maybe these GP's being broadcast could set the wheels in motion for another young American to want to earn the title of "World Champion" again.

Edit: Both USGPs at Glen Helen were awesome. Racing was great. IMO they were just poorly promoted and with the interest and exposure in the GPs rising if they were to have another USGP I think attendance would be a lot better.
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daveoevo 4/22/2014 11:07pm
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I think the mxgp would offer some American racers a good opportunity to forge a career in mx. While SX is the holy grail for many young racers it is responsible for shortening many careers through injury.
Highkoless 4/22/2014 11:57pm
4/22/2014 11:57pm
I don't get why YS runs their schedule like that.

I think is SX is on a pretty tight schedule, wich could maybe started a week early, but wouldn't make a big difference anyway.
So why don't they start the GP's when the outdoors start?
To let the riders that want to race SX and GP get a chance to do both,
since both are FIM world championships?! Am i wrong?

Of course some shared races like JT mentioned would be even better.
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robkinuk 4/23/2014 3:12am
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Highkoless wrote:
I don't get why YS runs their schedule like that. I think is SX is on a pretty tight schedule, wich could maybe started a week...
I don't get why YS runs their schedule like that.

I think is SX is on a pretty tight schedule, wich could maybe started a week early, but wouldn't make a big difference anyway.
So why don't they start the GP's when the outdoors start?
To let the riders that want to race SX and GP get a chance to do both,
since both are FIM world championships?! Am i wrong?

Of course some shared races like JT mentioned would be even better.
If the GP's didn't start as early as they do, there's no way they would get in a full 18 round world championship.
The early races in Qatar, Thailand etc have caused problems with the calender for early season Internationals in Europe like Valance, Hawkstone Park etc, forcing the organisers to run up to a month earlier, usually when there's still bad weather, heavy rain or perhaps even snow on the ground.

What about SX starting in early December and be done by end of March?
Highkoless 4/23/2014 3:35am
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Highkoless wrote:
I don't get why YS runs their schedule like that. I think is SX is on a pretty tight schedule, wich could maybe started a week...
I don't get why YS runs their schedule like that.

I think is SX is on a pretty tight schedule, wich could maybe started a week early, but wouldn't make a big difference anyway.
So why don't they start the GP's when the outdoors start?
To let the riders that want to race SX and GP get a chance to do both,
since both are FIM world championships?! Am i wrong?

Of course some shared races like JT mentioned would be even better.
robkinuk wrote:
If the GP's didn't start as early as they do, there's no way they would get in a full 18 round world championship. The early races...
If the GP's didn't start as early as they do, there's no way they would get in a full 18 round world championship.
The early races in Qatar, Thailand etc have caused problems with the calender for early season Internationals in Europe like Valance, Hawkstone Park etc, forcing the organisers to run up to a month earlier, usually when there's still bad weather, heavy rain or perhaps even snow on the ground.

What about SX starting in early December and be done by end of March?
I get that the oversea rounds make it a bit harder.
But why don't start in begining of may and make sure to hold races in the nothern parts in mid summer?
So they start with oversea races in may, go on with the nothern euro rounds June/July/august and end with the southern euro races september/oktober?
Yeah that schedule would be tight, maybe they'd have to cut a race, but the benefit would be huge for both sides.

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LoudLove 4/23/2014 7:11am
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Highkoless wrote:
I don't get why YS runs their schedule like that. I think is SX is on a pretty tight schedule, wich could maybe started a week...
I don't get why YS runs their schedule like that.

I think is SX is on a pretty tight schedule, wich could maybe started a week early, but wouldn't make a big difference anyway.
So why don't they start the GP's when the outdoors start?
To let the riders that want to race SX and GP get a chance to do both,
since both are FIM world championships?! Am i wrong?

Of course some shared races like JT mentioned would be even better.
robkinuk wrote:
If the GP's didn't start as early as they do, there's no way they would get in a full 18 round world championship. The early races...
If the GP's didn't start as early as they do, there's no way they would get in a full 18 round world championship.
The early races in Qatar, Thailand etc have caused problems with the calender for early season Internationals in Europe like Valance, Hawkstone Park etc, forcing the organisers to run up to a month earlier, usually when there's still bad weather, heavy rain or perhaps even snow on the ground.

What about SX starting in early December and be done by end of March?
1) Winter makes outdoor events hit or miss
2) NFL runs through late January, so enclosed stadiums are off the table
3) Late December/early January holidays would hurt attendance
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vmx3 8/18/2014 1:48pm
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DC wrote:
Jamma, Dave invites me every year and I have heard from Ryno and Burner and Lechien that it's just an amazing event... Someday soon, but I...
Jamma, Dave invites me every year and I have heard from Ryno and Burner and Lechien that it's just an amazing event... Someday soon, but I will have to get my butt in shape and get drafted onto Rory O'Neil's Team International Air Hammer first!

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The offer is there Davey, if you wanna ride a 490 in 2015 there, we'll have a bike ready to go for you, we would love to have ye.
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