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MotoX85 8/7/2014 10:36am
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tprice07 wrote:
So if another top rider gets nailed for drugs can we just start a petition to eliminate drug testing from SX MX....I'm not a fan of...
So if another top rider gets nailed for drugs can we just start a petition to eliminate drug testing from SX MX....I'm not a fan of losing my childhood idols. Granted JS7 isn't that much older than me.
So if another top rider gets busted for drugs can we test ALL of them instead of the top 4 and a couple random ones. I'm not a fan of all my child hood heroes been raging drug addicts and could not have won what they did if they were not pumped full of illegal substances. This way when all of them are caught, I can rot for the ones I know are clean and abiding by the rules.
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huck 8/7/2014 10:39am
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GuyB wrote: "I'm starting to think...."


Huck - "Better late than never!!!!"

Or

Huck - "About time!!!!"

Or

Huck - "congratulations!!"
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huck 8/7/2014 10:42am
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huck wrote:
GuyB wrote: "I'm starting to think...."


Huck - "Better late than never!!!!"

Or

Huck - "About time!!!!"

Or

Huck - "congratulations!!"
Huck - "Bullshit"

or

Huck - "prove it"

or

Huck - "there's a first for everything"




lol
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Mr Bean 8/7/2014 10:46am
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MotoX85 wrote:
This is why you cannot have a good conversation on the internet anymore. HUH!!!!!!!!! RCs problems where with fuel that he had nothing to do with...
This is why you cannot have a good conversation on the internet anymore.

HUH!!!!!!!!!

RCs problems where with fuel that he had nothing to do with when put in. Then it was learned that the fuel was actually absorbing lead from the can it was contained in hence it was VPs fault, thus reinstating RCs points. How this applies to what we are talking about is beyond me.

However, if RC was caught adding lead and oxygen to his fuel, then yes, zero tolerance and he should have been disqualified.

Zero Tolerance on cheating, yes.

Have no idea if you have ever been in charge of anything but do not know how you enforce "some" rules and not others without consistency and expect to be taken seriously.

Firm, fair and consistent is directly out of the leadership handbook.
Quote - "Have no idea if you have ever been in charge of anything but do not know how you enforce "some" rules and not others without consistency and expect to be taken seriously... Firm, fair and consistent is directly out of the leadership handbook".

What smelled about the leaded fuel penalty was that RC got his penalty reversed, while the privateers who had the same misfortune did not. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the way I remember it happening.

I don't consider that "consistent" nor "fair".

This is the type of behavior that let's the conspiracy theories grow legs with some people.


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h&m_cycle 8/7/2014 11:01am
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I'm really confused, are we talking about cheating in general or PED s?

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The Rock 8/7/2014 11:10am
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Dirty Mike wrote:
Not trying to cause trouble but all I am saying I've heard it's not going to end well for the Dunge.
Would you like to make a friendly gentleman's wager of 1000 dollars regarding your Dungey comment?
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circus 8/7/2014 11:11am
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Mr Bean wrote:
[b]Quote - "Have no idea if you have ever been in charge of anything but do not know how you enforce "some" rules and not others...
Quote - "Have no idea if you have ever been in charge of anything but do not know how you enforce "some" rules and not others without consistency and expect to be taken seriously... Firm, fair and consistent is directly out of the leadership handbook".

What smelled about the leaded fuel penalty was that RC got his penalty reversed, while the privateers who had the same misfortune did not. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the way I remember it happening.

I don't consider that "consistent" nor "fair".

This is the type of behavior that let's the conspiracy theories grow legs with some people.


Did they (suzuki) also threaten to pull out of the series if the AMA didn't reverse the penalty? Seems like I remember it that way.
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themrtoad 8/7/2014 11:12am
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A few years back there was even a rumour team usa demanded notesting for peds to show up at mxon. I can't surely claim that Luongo and his partners in crime(FIM) thought it was a price they were willing to pay since they draw a five times bigger crowd. Now the playing field will be more even in the future at least.
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The Rock 8/7/2014 11:15am
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peelout wrote:
i've been saying from the beginning that testing is going to fuck the sport. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/07/61732/s1200_53382475.jpg[/img]
i've been saying from the beginning that testing is going to fuck the sport.



I respect your opinion greatly but our sport IMHO is way more at risk due to risk and cost factors than this long overdue drug testing. If we lose riders but wind up with a "cleaner" sport there are kids on minis right now that will reap dividends from not having to buy HGH to be competitive.

















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Dirty Mike 8/7/2014 11:15am
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Dirty Mike wrote:
Not trying to cause trouble but all I am saying I've heard it's not going to end well for the Dunge.
The Rock wrote:
Would you like to make a friendly gentleman's wager of 1000 dollars regarding your Dungey comment?
I know how bets work around here. I would win and never get paid, soo no.
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Cygnus 8/7/2014 11:18am
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I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

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ML512 8/7/2014 11:20am
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ML512 wrote:
Your prayers have been answered. Wink
MxKing809 wrote:
When can we expect some clarity on all this?
The clarity is, this isn't about Dungey. Smile
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MxKing809 8/7/2014 11:22am
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ML512 wrote:
Your prayers have been answered. Wink
MxKing809 wrote:
When can we expect some clarity on all this?
ML512 wrote:
The clarity is, this isn't about Dungey. Smile
Whew, I can un-hide all the knifes.... Tongue
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GrapeApe 8/7/2014 11:22am
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ML512 wrote:
The clarity is, this isn't about Dungey. Smile
Can we play 20 questions? I'll start:

250 or 450 class?
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Darryl916 8/7/2014 11:24am
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h&m_cycle wrote:
I'm really confused, are we talking about cheating in general or PED s?

To be clear, we don't know what we are talking about, YET. We are waiting to see what the hell GuyB has left steaming in this thread.
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Katoomey 8/7/2014 11:25am
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GuyB wrote:
That drug testing is a good idea, but it could come with a very high cost...
Slow week around here?
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ML512 8/7/2014 11:27am
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MxKing809 wrote:
When can we expect some clarity on all this?
ML512 wrote:
The clarity is, this isn't about Dungey. Smile
MxKing809 wrote:
Whew, I can un-hide all the knifes.... Tongue
You're welcome. Laughing

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rcm406 8/7/2014 11:31am
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GuyB wrote:
That drug testing is a good idea, but it could come with a very high cost...
My guess is, James' appeal was denied or his "B" sample came back positive. If that's the case, I bet is we won't see James racing 2015 SX or worse James retiring.
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newmann 8/7/2014 11:32am
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Dirty Mike wrote:
Not trying to cause trouble but all I am saying I've heard it's not going to end well for the Dunge.
The Rock wrote:
Would you like to make a friendly gentleman's wager of 1000 dollars regarding your Dungey comment?
Dirty Mike wrote:
I know how bets work around here. I would win and never get paid, soo no.
Rock would pay. Opinionated he is, douchebag he isn't.
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ML512 8/7/2014 11:39am
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The Rock wrote:
Would you like to make a friendly gentleman's wager of 1000 dollars regarding your Dungey comment?
Dirty Mike wrote:
I know how bets work around here. I would win and never get paid, soo no.
newmann wrote:
Rock would pay. Opinionated he is, douchebag he isn't.
Rock can get on your nerves, but I'd take a wager with him any day.
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KMC440 8/7/2014 11:44am
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In before dumbgeon....
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MxKing809 8/7/2014 11:48am
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KMC440 wrote:
In before dumbgeon....
Stop it....

This has legs.... We just don't know who's yet
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mrquick 8/7/2014 11:54am
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So are you saying Roger needs an extra week to put together a mxdn team? How far will he have to dig down in the barrel
to find said team?
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steve_97060 8/7/2014 11:56am
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this is the kind of thread that would get deleted, and or the creator clicked in the past...

interesting....
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ATKpilot99 8/7/2014 12:03pm
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steve_97060 wrote:
this is the kind of thread that would get deleted, and or the creator clicked in the past...

interesting....
True . Maybe guyb's account was hacked . Smile
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Huevos 8/7/2014 12:06pm
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This is too funny. For a statement GuyB makes giving absolutely no specific information, we've narrowed it down to someone on the MXdN team, and it's most likely Dungey? Lol. Ok.
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jndmx 8/7/2014 12:13pm
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Huevos wrote:
This is too funny. For a statement GuyB makes giving absolutely no specific information, we've narrowed it down to someone on the MXdN team, and it's...
This is too funny. For a statement GuyB makes giving absolutely no specific information, we've narrowed it down to someone on the MXdN team, and it's most likely Dungey? Lol. Ok.
Vital logic.....
Laughing
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GrapeApe 8/7/2014 12:13pm
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steve_97060 wrote:
this is the kind of thread that would get deleted, and or the creator clicked in the past...

interesting....
The guy that floated the rumor that turned out to be Stewart's positive test wasn't clicked, and resulting thousand page thread wasn't deleted.

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