Ryan Villopoto is going to race the Nationals

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4/26/2014 9:18pm
Sandberm wrote:
Good Job Guyb!

The Robot has spoken, throwing dirt clods at the nuts of Vital members everywhereTongue
GuyB wrote:
Deservedly so. A lot of dumb stuff gets posted here as, "Just kidding." Now he spoke exactly what was on his mind, and you guys are...
Deservedly so. A lot of dumb stuff gets posted here as, "Just kidding."

Now he spoke exactly what was on his mind, and you guys are going to get upset?
I love RV and totally "get" him. Great champion and a heck of a character when hes able to cut loose.Silly
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4/26/2014 9:24pm
Sandberm wrote:
Good Job Guyb!

The Robot has spoken, throwing dirt clods at the nuts of Vital members everywhereTongue
GuyB wrote:
Deservedly so. A lot of dumb stuff gets posted here as, "Just kidding." Now he spoke exactly what was on his mind, and you guys are...
Deservedly so. A lot of dumb stuff gets posted here as, "Just kidding."

Now he spoke exactly what was on his mind, and you guys are going to get upset?
well, apparently that and still not believing him...
I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts. What is his penalty for not telling the whole story? Nothing. James for a few years said stuff like "at this time I'm racing them" only to have a press release out a week later saying he was out. I'm not saying he isn't racing, just not sold.
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4/26/2014 9:26pm
2thefront wrote:
I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts. What is his penalty...
I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts. What is his penalty for not telling the whole story? Nothing. James for a few years said stuff like "at this time I'm racing them" only to have a press release out a week later saying he was out. I'm not saying he isn't racing, just not sold.
So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying.

How about we watch, wait, and see how it plays out?
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4/26/2014 9:31pm
2thefront wrote:
I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts. What is his penalty...
I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts. What is his penalty for not telling the whole story? Nothing. James for a few years said stuff like "at this time I'm racing them" only to have a press release out a week later saying he was out. I'm not saying he isn't racing, just not sold.
GuyB wrote:
So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying...
So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying.

How about we watch, wait, and see how it plays out?
We should watch and see how it plays out. That was my point. I don't think you need to say anything GuyB. Some folks are taking tonight's words as gospel. I'm just discussing. Isn't that what we're here for?

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4/26/2014 9:34pm
2thefront wrote:
I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts. What is his penalty...
I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts. What is his penalty for not telling the whole story? Nothing. James for a few years said stuff like "at this time I'm racing them" only to have a press release out a week later saying he was out. I'm not saying he isn't racing, just not sold.
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So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying...
So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying.

How about we watch, wait, and see how it plays out?
2thefront wrote:
We should watch and see how it plays out. That was my point. I don't think you need to say anything GuyB. Some folks are taking...
We should watch and see how it plays out. That was my point. I don't think you need to say anything GuyB. Some folks are taking tonight's words as gospel. I'm just discussing. Isn't that what we're here for?
I give up.
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WOW!....Great news! I ended up watching the race about 2hrs later because I had a busy day......but that is really cool to hear he's racing the nationals!

But I'll tell ya.....I'm going to be extremely bummed if we don't see James on the gate at GH. Hopefully that was just a stinger and will feel better in a few days.

Also.....to me....it looks like these young pups are coming alive again. Meaning Tomac and Roczen. Both looked solid!

And it brought a tear to my eye seeing Josh do so well. That dude surprises the hell out of me. Awesome job Josh!
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2thefront wrote:
I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts. What is his penalty...
I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts. What is his penalty for not telling the whole story? Nothing. James for a few years said stuff like "at this time I'm racing them" only to have a press release out a week later saying he was out. I'm not saying he isn't racing, just not sold.
GuyB wrote:
So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying...
So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying.

How about we watch, wait, and see how it plays out?
This guy seems like a very confused individual. Dizzy
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GuyB wrote:
So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying...
So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying.

How about we watch, wait, and see how it plays out?
2thefront wrote:
We should watch and see how it plays out. That was my point. I don't think you need to say anything GuyB. Some folks are taking...
We should watch and see how it plays out. That was my point. I don't think you need to say anything GuyB. Some folks are taking tonight's words as gospel. I'm just discussing. Isn't that what we're here for?
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I give up.
What's the problem? Seriously...
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4/26/2014 9:42pm
2thefront wrote:
I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts. What is his penalty...
I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts. What is his penalty for not telling the whole story? Nothing. James for a few years said stuff like "at this time I'm racing them" only to have a press release out a week later saying he was out. I'm not saying he isn't racing, just not sold.
GuyB wrote:
So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying...
So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying.

How about we watch, wait, and see how it plays out?
jeffro503 wrote:
This guy seems like a very confused individual. Dizzy
Confused how?
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2thefront wrote:
We should watch and see how it plays out. That was my point. I don't think you need to say anything GuyB. Some folks are taking...
We should watch and see how it plays out. That was my point. I don't think you need to say anything GuyB. Some folks are taking tonight's words as gospel. I'm just discussing. Isn't that what we're here for?
GuyB wrote:
I give up.
2thefront wrote:
What's the problem? Seriously...
Ryan says he's racing, but, "I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts."

So who do you choose to believe.
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4/26/2014 9:46pm Edited Date/Time 4/26/2014 9:49pm
GuyB wrote:
I give up.
2thefront wrote:
What's the problem? Seriously...
GuyB wrote:
Ryan says he's racing, but, "I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard...
Ryan says he's racing, but, "I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts."

So who do you choose to believe.
I don't know who to believe. How can you believe either at this point? Just because RV is one of the greats should I just give him the benefit of the doubt and tow his line?

Either way, I think this better a better discussion than fan boys insulting each other...May be just me though.
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4/26/2014 9:47pm
GuyB wrote:
So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying...
So what should I say? I'm sorry, but a bunch of guys that I've never met who post on the forum I moderate think you're lying.

How about we watch, wait, and see how it plays out?
jeffro503 wrote:
This guy seems like a very confused individual. Dizzy
2thefront wrote:
Confused how?
You do friggin' realize that GuyB is on the floor each and every week talking to these guys right? Not to mention a few others.

And on your point about guys saying " I'm going to race the nationals.....then pull out a week later ".....

Please give us an example. Because I don't remember ever seeing this before.
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jeffro503 wrote:
This guy seems like a very confused individual. Dizzy
2thefront wrote:
Confused how?
jeffro503 wrote:
You do friggin' realize that GuyB is on the floor each and every week talking to these guys right? Not to mention a few others. And...
You do friggin' realize that GuyB is on the floor each and every week talking to these guys right? Not to mention a few others.

And on your point about guys saying " I'm going to race the nationals.....then pull out a week later ".....

Please give us an example. Because I don't remember ever seeing this before.
Yes I realize that. Does that mean he knows more than other guys in the media? If so speak up. I certainly respect his work.

James in 11 even was testing outdoors "planning to race" a few weeks beforehand and never did. Granted, he wasn't on a team that traditionally ran outdoors..but it still happened.
4/26/2014 10:03pm
Is this rumor even originally attributable to Vital? I'm pretty sure I heard it from Matthes, RacerX, and maybe MXA.

Alternatively, is the state of moto journalism such that these main outlets get their info on the 4x SX champ from this forum?
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Is this rumor even originally attributable to Vital? I'm pretty sure I heard it from Matthes, RacerX, and maybe MXA. Alternatively, is the state of moto...
Is this rumor even originally attributable to Vital? I'm pretty sure I heard it from Matthes, RacerX, and maybe MXA.

Alternatively, is the state of moto journalism such that these main outlets get their info on the 4x SX champ from this forum?
It didn't originate from vital, it's only been discussed here. There were some folks who added in their "inside" info but nothing more than PulpMX, RacerX etc... reported first.
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So RV said he is racing, even acknowledged that the rumors were started by vitards, and people are still saying he won't be there? I honestly don't know what to say some times. BTW, I think that conversation pretty much proves he isn't the robot some of you guys make him out to be.
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TripleFive wrote:
Is this rumor even originally attributable to Vital? I'm pretty sure I heard it from Matthes, RacerX, and maybe MXA. Alternatively, is the state of moto...
Is this rumor even originally attributable to Vital? I'm pretty sure I heard it from Matthes, RacerX, and maybe MXA.

Alternatively, is the state of moto journalism such that these main outlets get their info on the 4x SX champ from this forum?
DC started it by alluding to it in Racerhead a couple weeks ago, then Matthews, jt$ came out and said they were 99.9% certain RV wouldn't race the nationals. I guess RV duped everyone, well except me of course!Wink I've always said he would be at GH.
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4/26/2014 10:15pm
TripleFive wrote:
Is this rumor even originally attributable to Vital? I'm pretty sure I heard it from Matthes, RacerX, and maybe MXA. Alternatively, is the state of moto...
Is this rumor even originally attributable to Vital? I'm pretty sure I heard it from Matthes, RacerX, and maybe MXA.

Alternatively, is the state of moto journalism such that these main outlets get their info on the 4x SX champ from this forum?
rcm406 wrote:
DC started it by alluding to it in Racerhead a couple weeks ago, then Matthews, jt$ came out and said they were 99.9% certain RV wouldn't...
DC started it by alluding to it in Racerhead a couple weeks ago, then Matthews, jt$ came out and said they were 99.9% certain RV wouldn't race the nationals. I guess RV duped everyone, well except me of course!Wink I've always said he would be at GH.
BUT......you also said he was 100%. Which I know for a FACT he isn't. I'll get flamed for saying it , but I know for a fact that knee isn't 100%.

Him racing the nationals.....I've stayed neutral because I couldn't get a strait answer. And on my first point.....weather anyone believes me or not I don't really care. But I was thinking that the knee.....would of been the main reason he wasn't going to race this summer.

And before you call bullshit on it......how did James start to look a few weeks after he tore his ACL? Hard to see it on the bike when a dude is in some pain. And by no means am I saying that's what's wrong with RV.
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This is what started it I believe:

From DC:

"But even as RV was winning and closing in on that milestone title, I’m hearing and seeing that he may not be 100 percent, and he has a knee situation that may need correction as soon as the series-ending Las Vegas Supercross happens. Needless to say, I really, truly hope that’s not the case".
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4/26/2014 10:18pm Edited Date/Time 4/26/2014 10:21pm
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So RV said he is racing, even acknowledged that the rumors were started by vitards, and people are still saying he won't be there? I honestly...
So RV said he is racing, even acknowledged that the rumors were started by vitards, and people are still saying he won't be there? I honestly don't know what to say some times. BTW, I think that conversation pretty much proves he isn't the robot some of you guys make him out to be.
Maybe he had the elaborate plan to tell people in the pits he was having personal problems, was staying in California because of it, decided not to do outdoor testing over the break to keep up the front and was sketchy in interviews to add to it, all the while planning to race the nationals...if so kudos to him.

Maybe it was just the knee all along and he feels good enough about it now to race and everything else was false rumors. We really don't know.

I'm just not convinced. I'm sure more will come out over the next week.
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This is what started it I believe: From DC: "But even as RV was winning and closing in on that milestone title, I’m hearing and seeing...
This is what started it I believe:

From DC:

"But even as RV was winning and closing in on that milestone title, I’m hearing and seeing that he may not be 100 percent, and he has a knee situation that may need correction as soon as the series-ending Las Vegas Supercross happens. Needless to say, I really, truly hope that’s not the case".
And I would say that DC was and is 100% correct on that statement he made a few weeks ago.

You don't have to believe me.......but I think he's going out to ride the nationals the best he can. To either try to win it.....or until his knee explodes.

Like I said.....I do not give one fuck who believes me on this. As long as that knee stays healthy , he should have a good chance at the title.
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I've also heard of a knee problem. RV mentioned something about it in his Seattle post-race chat. But he also said tonight that he's lining up.

I know of very few pro MXers who don't have some ailment, big or small. Some bother them enough that it costs them speed, some don't. RV's winning, and that can buy a lot of Advil and athletic tape. Or push him to hold off on getting something fixed. He wouldn't be the first, and certainly won't be the last to ride through injuries.
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I've also heard of a knee problem. RV mentioned something about it in his Seattle post-race chat. But he also said tonight that he's lining up...
I've also heard of a knee problem. RV mentioned something about it in his Seattle post-race chat. But he also said tonight that he's lining up.

I know of very few pro MXers who don't have some ailment, big or small. Some bother them enough that it costs them speed, some don't. RV's winning, and that can buy a lot of Advil and athletic tape. Or push him to hold off on getting something fixed. He wouldn't be the first, and certainly won't be the last to ride through injuries.
Thank you GuyB!! For holding off the manics that were getting ready to attack me! Silly
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Maybe he had the elaborate plan to tell people in the pits he was having personal problems, was staying in California because of it, decided not...
Maybe he had the elaborate plan to tell people in the pits he was having personal problems, was staying in California because of it, decided not to do outdoor testing over the break to keep up the front and was sketchy in interviews to add to it, all the while planning to race the nationals...if so kudos to him.

Maybe it was just the knee all along and he feels good enough about it now to race and everything else was false rumors. We really don't know.

I'm just not convinced. I'm sure more will come out over the next week.
Maybe you make up stuff all day long.
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2thefront wrote:
Maybe he had the elaborate plan to tell people in the pits he was having personal problems, was staying in California because of it, decided not...
Maybe he had the elaborate plan to tell people in the pits he was having personal problems, was staying in California because of it, decided not to do outdoor testing over the break to keep up the front and was sketchy in interviews to add to it, all the while planning to race the nationals...if so kudos to him.

Maybe it was just the knee all along and he feels good enough about it now to race and everything else was false rumors. We really don't know.

I'm just not convinced. I'm sure more will come out over the next week.
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Maybe you make up stuff all day long.
What am I making up?
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If RV and Stew are both out of the nationals does this mean we will have our first national MX champ with two * symbols next to their name?Tongue
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2thefront wrote:
Maybe he had the elaborate plan to tell people in the pits he was having personal problems, was staying in California because of it, decided not...
Maybe he had the elaborate plan to tell people in the pits he was having personal problems, was staying in California because of it, decided not to do outdoor testing over the break to keep up the front and was sketchy in interviews to add to it, all the while planning to race the nationals...if so kudos to him.

Maybe it was just the knee all along and he feels good enough about it now to race and everything else was false rumors. We really don't know.

I'm just not convinced. I'm sure more will come out over the next week.
GuyB wrote:
Maybe you make up stuff all day long.
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What am I making up?
Everything from the word maybe on?
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4/26/2014 10:39pm Edited Date/Time 4/26/2014 10:41pm
GuyB wrote:
Maybe you make up stuff all day long.
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What am I making up?
GuyB wrote:
Everything from the word maybe on?
None of that was stuff I made up or got from some random vital poster. So how am I making it up? Maybe you should be more angry at the people reporting it if you know it to be false instead of me?
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GuyB wrote:
I give up.
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What's the problem? Seriously...
GuyB wrote:
Ryan says he's racing, but, "I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard...
Ryan says he's racing, but, "I'm just saying there's so much out there that makes it look like he's not racing. Credible people, not just vitard posts."

So who do you choose to believe.
[Sarcasm] Did Ryan say "Stamp it"? Because the guy who said he's not racing said "Stamp it" in his post, so I believe him. [/Sarcasm]
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Dude wants out and the quickest way is if he does the nats. I'll miss his style when he retires.

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