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Big Lenny wrote:
RV's or Darrell Schultz's?... RacerX [b]So while you were in the middle of leading the points in the 500cc nationals, you find yourself laying in a...
RV's or Darrell Schultz's?...

RacerX

So while you were in the middle of leading the points in the 500cc nationals, you find yourself laying in a hospital bed with a trashed knee, collapsed lung, and some gnarly metal tube hooked up to your chest. How on earth did you mange to win that championship?

Well, after a few days in the hospital, my father showed up and told me to get out of bed. I pointed out the metal tube that was stuck in my lung and the big breathing machine that was beside my bed. He told me that I had a huge points lead and that this was pretty much my only shot at a championship. Somehow, I knew he was right. So we talked to the doctor, and although he was against it, he basically said that as long as I didn’t crash, and as long as I didn’t get winded, I could ride around and be okay. So we unplugged the metal tube, covered it with tape, and flew to Washougal.

What happened at Washougal?

Not much, actually! They put this big strap around my chest and cinched it up real tight for pressure. I went out and raced both motos, finishing around the top ten. I made sure I didn’t crash and didn’t get winded, just like the doctor told me. The next and final race was at Carlsbad, and I only had to score some points in the first moto to get the championship, so it was the same thing. I just went out and rode around just inside the top ten. With that, I won the 1982 500cc championship.

I understand that after you won that championship, you didn’t really race again.

I went out and had three more knee surgeries over a six-month period, and that was it. I was just done. I had been riding injured for so long and was just tired of compensating in everything that I was doing.
Cmon man...the Shu is the man! Gotta be from NorCal to be that tough
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Cmon man...the Shu is the man! Gotta be from NorCal to be that tough
No doubt,.. being from Cali period...Wink
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BobbyM wrote:
Cmon man...the Shu is the man! Gotta be from NorCal to be that tough
Big Lenny wrote:
No doubt,.. being from Cali period...Wink
Really?
3/26/2014 1:59pm
Collapsed lung vs food poisoning....Winner is the Lung
500cc vs 450f.....Winner is the 500cc beast
Outdoor Moto Format vs 20 Lap Sx sprint....Winner is Outdoor Moto

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Blink Shu for sure....as someone else said RV had gas pains. Not even close.
gas pains?

what is the extent of your research? or are you just being a fucking troll again?

this shit is getting old
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malachi177 wrote:
Blink Shu for sure....as someone else said RV had gas pains. Not even close.
peelout wrote:
gas pains?

what is the extent of your research? or are you just being a fucking troll again?

this shit is getting old
Calling me a troll???Blink Read my words douchenozzle. "as someone said"....which I"ll dumb down for ya. Before I commented in this topic, that is what someone previously posted.....gas pains. What shit are you talking about? Might want to elaborate and actually show some form of intelligence rather then being the resident smart ass all the time. Now go change your panties.
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malachi177 wrote:
Blink Shu for sure....as someone else said RV had gas pains. Not even close.
peelout wrote:
gas pains?

what is the extent of your research? or are you just being a fucking troll again?

this shit is getting old
malachi177 wrote:
Calling me a troll???:blink: Read my words douchenozzle. "as someone said"....which I"ll dumb down for ya. Before I commented in this topic, that is what someone...
Calling me a troll???Blink Read my words douchenozzle. "as someone said"....which I"ll dumb down for ya. Before I commented in this topic, that is what someone previously posted.....gas pains. What shit are you talking about? Might want to elaborate and actually show some form of intelligence rather then being the resident smart ass all the time. Now go change your panties.
yep, definitely a troll.

you must motorcross all the time bro.
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3/26/2014 2:18pm Edited Date/Time 3/26/2014 2:21pm
hillbilly wrote:
Lorenzo last year in motogp,crash,broke wing,flew to Spain(I think) plated,screw,raced next day ,even to lead I recall,got a 4th

RV had gas pains,
For Peelout!!! ^^ see.... gas pains^^ Not my wordsPinch

Like some salt for that sticky foot of yours?
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GIwasB4 wrote:
Really?
Yes really...
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How many of us as weekend warriors have gone into work on Monday with a broken bone from racing on the weekend? Personally I think that's...
How many of us as weekend warriors have gone into work on Monday with a broken bone from racing on the weekend?

Personally I think that's a little more impressive than a guy racing while he's sick.
Damn straight.... 3 times here! Sucks
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hillbilly wrote:
Lorenzo last year in motogp,crash,broke wing,flew to Spain(I think) plated,screw,raced next day ,even to lead I recall,got a 4th

RV had gas pains,
malachi177 wrote:
For Peelout!!! ^^ see.... gas pains^^ Not my wordsPinch

Like some salt for that sticky foot of yours?
Definately Troll
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BobbyM wrote:
Cmon man...the Shu is the man! Gotta be from NorCal to be that tough
Big Lenny wrote:
No doubt,.. being from Cali period...Wink
GIwasB4 wrote:
Really?
lowery...give it up man
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They need to get on the same page....

On Ryan Villopoto....


Ryan Villopoto was in damage control mode in Toronto. After missing all of practice due to a reported case of food poisoning (the team still wasn't sure exactly what the problem was) Villopoto returned for the night show and gutted out a sixth. We may look back at tonight and say, “This is where Ryan Villopoto won the championship.”

Racer X Virtual Trainer: Hey Aldon, thanks for talking to me and giving us an update on Ryan and Adam. Tough night in Toronto, eh?

Aldon Baker: Yes a very tough night for sure. We aren't really sure what caused the problems but we are pretty certain he did not have food poisoning because he didn't have diarrhea. He was vomiting a bit but it was more dry heaving and stuff like that.

Take me through the week's events briefly leading up to the problem.

Yes, we had a normal week of training with no problems and traveled to Toronto on Friday. We all went out for dinner to our normal place Friday night and all was good. No troubles at all. Saturday morning when we met up to go to the gym for a quick warm-up session. He said he was going to go to the restroom and he would meet me in the gym. Kristen, his wife informed me he had severe stomach pain, so I went to his room and he was laying down all curled up in pain. He said his stomach was hurting and it was getting worse and worse. He said it woke him up earlier but it was just a little discomfort not the sharp pain he was feeling now. So that's when it all started.

What happened next?

Well, we tried to wait as long as we could to see if he was getting any better and he wasn't. So I took him to the track doctor. Doc Bodnar checked him and recommended he go to the hospital, and that's what we did.

Wow, that had to be a shock. You had to be thinking at that point it was something a little more series than food poisoning.

Yea, at that point I wasn't sure what was going on. I mean, I'm not a doctor but the pain wasn't in a place that would make you think appendix or anything like that. Hospitals in Canada have a different system than we do here in the US and kind of first come first serve so we had to wait a bit once we got there.

Wow, I never really thought about that. Here you all are defending a supercross championship, all this pressure, it's race day and you have medical emergency outside the US in another country.


Yea, that was definitely a bit of a process. I mean I tried to talk to the doctor with all due respect and explain to him what was going on and how important this all was. They went through the normal process of checking his vitals and checking his blood and all the usual tests but I kind of knew that the only way they were going to get a speedy diagnosis was with an contrast CT scan. So on top of all that he had to drink that dye. But trying to speed up the process a bit was not easy. Unless you are maybe a hockey player or something, it's not happening (laughs).

So at that point, you guys had to know it wasn't food poisoning, right?

Yea, for sure. I pretty much ruled that out because he wasn't really exhibiting the signs of food poisoning. The only thing he had was this sharp pain. No fever or anything else. Plus we all ate Friday evening and this happened about 12 hours later. Food poisoning tends to kick in pretty quick and usually comes out both ends. And actually our team manager Dan, he wasn't feeling well and was exhibiting the normal signs of food poisoning and Josh Grant too from what I was told.

So this sounds like this didn't have anything to do with food.

No, it definitely doesn't look that way.

So what did they do at the hospital that got him well enough to race that night?

Well, we were there for a few hours waiting and going through the process and the pain seemed to start to relax a bit. Actually right before the CT scan the pain seemed to relax quite a bit. So he started feeling a bit better and moving around. He then said that he would like to try and ride. If he was going to ride we needed to get a plan together to get him cleared with Doc Bodnar at the track and the AMA and FIM. Up to that point we were thinking there was no way he was going to ride. Give up the 25 points and go to the next round. But Ryan felt that as long as he didn't have that extreme pain he would be fine to try and ride. Then it was a big stretch to get him released because they had to do the CT scan and read it before they would let him go. Once everything came back clear and they were not going to keep him overnight we got out of there. We got the forms from the hospital, headed back to the track and off to Doc Bodnar to get clearance. Then it was off to the heat race.

So he hit the track for the first time in a heat race. No practice laps or nothing.

Yes.

He was noticeably cautious in both races. Watching the race live, we were all told he had suffered from food poisoning all day and I just assumed he was dehydrated and just sick. Was he just being cautious because he was still in a bit of pain?

Yes, he was still in a bit of pain and wasn't feeling unreal for sure. He had a long day in the hospital and was slightly dehydrated from throwing up. He also had not eaten anything all day. It was not an ideal situation but I think he did pretty good considering the day he had. There was no way he needed to go out there and try to push the limits.

So what's the prognosis now?

Well, he flew out to California and is working with a specialist to try and determine what caused all this. I'm actually waiting to hear from them now.

Has the pain gone away?

Yes, for the most part. He still has a bit of soreness from all the cramping but the sharp pains have gone away.

So from the sound of things, it looks like we can expect a 100% healthy RV on Saturday in St. Louis?
Yes, that is what I expect.
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RV left the hospital without finding anything wrong is what I read,had gut pain andnever said he threw up.

I cant find that post

A better comparison would be RV and Tyler Bowers I believe.
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RV left the hospital without finding anything wrong is what I read,had gut pain andnever said he threw up. I cant find that post A better...
RV left the hospital without finding anything wrong is what I read,had gut pain andnever said he threw up.

I cant find that post

A better comparison would be RV and Tyler Bowers I believe.
Yes, he was still in a bit of pain and wasn't feeling unreal for sure. He had a long day in the hospital and was slightly dehydrated from throwing up.

I'm not picking a side

I had giardia (sp) once Shit (no pun) was debilitating.
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How about Ashley fiolek breaking her collar bone badly in a race and finishing to win the championship?
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3/26/2014 7:44pm Edited Date/Time 3/26/2014 7:46pm
Big Lenny wrote:
RV's or Darrell Schultz's?... RacerX [b]So while you were in the middle of leading the points in the 500cc nationals, you find yourself laying in a...
RV's or Darrell Schultz's?...

RacerX

So while you were in the middle of leading the points in the 500cc nationals, you find yourself laying in a hospital bed with a trashed knee, collapsed lung, and some gnarly metal tube hooked up to your chest. How on earth did you mange to win that championship?

Well, after a few days in the hospital, my father showed up and told me to get out of bed. I pointed out the metal tube that was stuck in my lung and the big breathing machine that was beside my bed. He told me that I had a huge points lead and that this was pretty much my only shot at a championship. Somehow, I knew he was right. So we talked to the doctor, and although he was against it, he basically said that as long as I didn’t crash, and as long as I didn’t get winded, I could ride around and be okay. So we unplugged the metal tube, covered it with tape, and flew to Washougal.

What happened at Washougal?

Not much, actually! They put this big strap around my chest and cinched it up real tight for pressure. I went out and raced both motos, finishing around the top ten. I made sure I didn’t crash and didn’t get winded, just like the doctor told me. The next and final race was at Carlsbad, and I only had to score some points in the first moto to get the championship, so it was the same thing. I just went out and rode around just inside the top ten. With that, I won the 1982 500cc championship.

I understand that after you won that championship, you didn’t really race again.

I went out and had three more knee surgeries over a six-month period, and that was it. I was just done. I had been riding injured for so long and was just tired of compensating in everything that I was doing.
Yeah, Darrell Schultz's obviously.

Kudos to RV though. Even more kudos to Stewart. If you watch the GoPro vid on the homepage, it's unbelievable! He was in the "zone" and went faster and faster as the race progressed.
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Yeah, I'd say that's pretty damn impressive. I wonder if ever even had the chance to walk the track?
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Not really that impressive to me they've constantly been riding for years why couldn't they just come out with minimum practice..Shit I'd bet everyone here has...
Not really that impressive to me they've constantly been riding for years why couldn't they just come out with minimum practice..Shit I'd bet everyone here has a better chance at doing RV's job than him doing their's for one night...
I still think the most impressive thing about RV's ride was not the mysterious sickness but his learning the track as he raced it. For Big Lenny, who thinks that was no big deal maybe DV's opinion will help you understand how impressive that was, but I doubt it.

"I can't imagine going to the heat race without knowing the track like RV did. We really have to give RV a lot of credit for his Toronto performance. Even on top of my game, I don't know if I would have made the main in RV's situation. Ryan took "winning a championship on your bad days" to a whole new level and deserves our respect."
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tvo314 wrote:
Yeah, I'd say that's pretty damn impressive. I wonder if ever even had the chance to walk the track?
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Not really that impressive to me they've constantly been riding for years why couldn't they just come out with minimum practice..Shit I'd bet everyone here has...
Not really that impressive to me they've constantly been riding for years why couldn't they just come out with minimum practice..Shit I'd bet everyone here has a better chance at doing RV's job than him doing their's for one night...
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I still think the most impressive thing about RV's ride was not the mysterious sickness but his learning the track as he raced it. For Big...
I still think the most impressive thing about RV's ride was not the mysterious sickness but his learning the track as he raced it. For Big Lenny, who thinks that was no big deal maybe DV's opinion will help you understand how impressive that was, but I doubt it.

"I can't imagine going to the heat race without knowing the track like RV did. We really have to give RV a lot of credit for his Toronto performance. Even on top of my game, I don't know if I would have made the main in RV's situation. Ryan took "winning a championship on your bad days" to a whole new level and deserves our respect."
It's been done before Lechien did it in Genova, and to think these Cats can't figure out a track between a heat race and a semi is ridiculous...
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3/26/2014 8:00pm Edited Date/Time 3/26/2014 8:02pm
loftyair wrote:
How about Ashley fiolek breaking her collar bone badly in a race and finishing to win the championship?
Girls are definetly tough. My daughter raced the honda mini superMoto challenge with a broke. Collar bone and was nailing the huge steel ramp every lap. Some healthy boys weren't doing it . Most of us are motoheads are damn tough.
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It's been done before Lechien did it in Genova, and to think these Cats can't figure out a track between a heat race and a semi...
It's been done before Lechien did it in Genova, and to think these Cats can't figure out a track between a heat race and a semi is ridiculous...
No disrespect to Lechien, because that's pretty cool too, but today's tracks are far more technical.
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3/26/2014 8:24pm Edited Date/Time 3/26/2014 8:24pm
tvo314 wrote:
No disrespect to Lechien, because that's pretty cool too, but today's tracks are far more technical.
Give it up, turn it loose...
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How about both? Hard to compare the two. Eras, disciplines, bikes, etc.
I disagree and say Schultz ride was far more tougher especially as you say different era. Bikes and suspension and tracks wouldn't be as well prepped as they are today. Different discipline again favors the Rider Schultz.

If you meant Lorenzo, I think his ride was unbelievable. I remember Chad spitting up blood and returning to track to race in SX.
Also in OZ Chad rode with a broken leg that didn't get fixed for a week as if they did what they wanted to do right away Chad would be like Booby M.

What RV did was ok but up there as the toughest of all time ffs give me a break. Some riders put in some pretty quick laps in early practice so I don't see that as a Major.
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tvo314 wrote:
No disrespect to Lechien, because that's pretty cool too, but today's tracks are far more technical.
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Give it up, turn it loose...
Genova? A one off race in Europe is the same as lining up at an AMA supercross? Huh
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tvo314 wrote:
No disrespect to Lechien, because that's pretty cool too, but today's tracks are far more technical.
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Give it up, turn it loose...
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Genova? A one off race in Europe is the same as lining up at an AMA supercross? Huh
Doesn't matter where it was it was a pro race...
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Doesn't matter where it was it was a pro race...
Uh, yeah, it kinda does. REM has a "pro" class...
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What about this pussy?

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-top-10s/top-10-hardest-rides-of-all…

I guess that I can't link to other websites...

1. Mick Doohan

Where: Sao Paolo, Brazilian 500ccGP
Where: 1992
What: Honda NSR500
Why so hard?: Mick fights appalling pain and fatigue to protect lead

In late June 1992 Mick Doohan fell at the Assen GP and suffered a savage lower right leg break - spiral fractures of the tibia and fibula. After botched early treatment, amputation was on the cards. It was horrendous.

After rescue and relocation, a radical op performed by Doctor Claudio Costa’s Clinica Mobile saved his legs from being sawn off and speeded up his recovery. Seven weeks after his crash, as weak as a kitten and with his leg withered and useless, Doohan came back to defend what was left of his once imperious 57-point Championship lead at the hideously dangerous Interlagos circuit.

His treatment had included radical surgery, sewing both his legs together and transplanting muscle tissue from his torso to his calves, to help get the dying muscles become oxygenated by the living tissue.

Mick, until that stage an unbeatable prospect, knew he was in trouble in Brazil and was a physical wreck. “I’d lost six kilos, and had been pretty lean to start with; I was run down, beat up and on some pretty strong pills,” says Mick with typical ‘no worries’ understatement.

He eventually finished 12th, but in 1992 that meant no points and all that grit and risk had been for nothing. He finished the Championship in second place, losing out to Wayne Rainey by just four points. “That was my toughest race ever, but I was happy that I had finished,” he says. “I got back to the pits and Costa and another doctor were crying. It was all pretty emotional.” But the legend that was Mick Doohan had been born. The infamous Gold & Goose photo of him in appalling pain, with his stick-thin leg clearly on display and Dr Costa offering comfort, shows the true grit of the man. And that’s why Doohan’s Sao Paolo effort is unquestionably our hardest race of all time.



Read more: http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-top-10s/top-10-hardest-rides-of-all…
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hillbilly wrote:
Lorenzo last year in motogp,crash,broke wing,flew to Spain(I think) plated,screw,raced next day ,even to lead I recall,got a 4th

RV had gas pains,
malachi177 wrote:
For Peelout!!! ^^ see.... gas pains^^ Not my wordsPinch

Like some salt for that sticky foot of yours?
Quoting Hillbilly as the gospel?? Oh shit, I've seen it all now!!!!! LOL







(no offense to Hillbilly)
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tvo314 wrote:
No disrespect to Lechien, because that's pretty cool too, but today's tracks are far more technical.
In a first practice they were doing 51 sec lap times on lap three. It`s not like he didn`t study the track prior to lining up. I know it`s not the same thing but still.
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hillbilly wrote:
Lorenzo last year in motogp,crash,broke wing,flew to Spain(I think) plated,screw,raced next day ,even to lead I recall,got a 4th

RV had gas pains,
malachi177 wrote:
For Peelout!!! ^^ see.... gas pains^^ Not my wordsPinch

Like some salt for that sticky foot of yours?
huck wrote:
Quoting Hillbilly as the gospel?? Oh shit, I've seen it all now!!!!! LOL







(no offense to Hillbilly)
That is dangerous,quoting me that is.

I'm unoffendable ,nothing could be posted that my wife aint already called me.

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