Deano's Fade

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3/12/2014 10:46am
peelout wrote:
your common sense and ability to post facts are not welcome around here, ths is hatin' territory
Sez you. I prefer the common sense and facts. Smile
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3/12/2014 10:47am
IWreckALot wrote:
So is Byrne done with Mike A. and working with 22 Motorsports or is he consulting for both? Really shocked with Dean's starts. He was on...
So is Byrne done with Mike A. and working with 22 Motorsports or is he consulting for both?

Really shocked with Dean's starts. He was on par all night.
On par? Try on point. Smile
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3/12/2014 10:54am
I wreck a lot wrote..

This. That track was bumpier than a fat girl's ass. . . Their bikes were all over the place and that just exacerbates arm pump. Considering that with the extra weight of the 450's and 5 extra laps, I'd say it was a huge success for Dean.


Spot on...Damn arm chair QBs....
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3/12/2014 11:05am
This guy, jumped on a 450 on a SHORT amount of time and raced one of the toughest tracks on the circuit ON A 450, and people are askin why he got tired? SMGDH..Then they try and blame the trainer lol! Why do people ask such absurd questions..

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3/12/2014 11:19am
IWreckALot wrote:
So is Byrne done with Mike A. and working with 22 Motorsports or is he consulting for both? Really shocked with Dean's starts. He was on...
So is Byrne done with Mike A. and working with 22 Motorsports or is he consulting for both?

Really shocked with Dean's starts. He was on par all night.
DownSouth wrote:
Byrne is all over the place. He works with Alessi during the week, recently started helping BTO KTM on race weekends, and apparently was coaching Dean...
Byrne is all over the place. He works with Alessi during the week, recently started helping BTO KTM on race weekends, and apparently was coaching Dean on starts at Reeds last week.
it seems as if many Aussies are entrepreneurial at heart and are good business men.

must be that alpha male culture..
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3/12/2014 12:34pm
Why not train for 25 laps then 20 comes easy!
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3/12/2014 12:36pm
This talk of him only training for a 15 lap main is stupid.

What the hell is the kid going to do when they get to the outdoors if he can't make it 25 minutes on a supercross track? Baggett will eat the kid alive if he can't go 35 + 2.
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3/12/2014 12:37pm
LappedU wrote:
Why not train for 25 laps then 20 comes easy!
The last time I went out to shoot Ryan Villopoto, he started his morning with a 25-lap main.
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3/12/2014 12:38pm
Rooster wrote:
This talk of him only training for a 15 lap main is stupid. What the hell is the kid going to do when they get to...
This talk of him only training for a 15 lap main is stupid.

What the hell is the kid going to do when they get to the outdoors if he can't make it 25 minutes on a supercross track? Baggett will eat the kid alive if he can't go 35 + 2.
Why would he need to go 35 + 2?
3/12/2014 12:40pm
GuyB wrote:
The last time I went out to shoot Ryan Villopoto, he started his morning with a 25-lap main.
he was just showin off.....
3/12/2014 12:54pm
I was impressed by both Wilson and Mookie. Didn't think it was bad of Wilson to fade. I thought Mookie would fade to and Barcia could just easily outrun him at that point. Great rides for the two 450f rookies on Daytona soil.
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3/12/2014 12:59pm
Daytona isnt like any other SX...its a long lap and gets rough like outdoors, If it had been 20 laps in a dome ,he'd have been fine , he is riding to showcase his talents and keep 22 in the spotlight , without wadding himself up in a ball for the out doors.

I think he only did good , and knowing when to back off is as good a trait as having the speed in the first place..
3/12/2014 1:48pm
Rooster wrote:
This talk of him only training for a 15 lap main is stupid. What the hell is the kid going to do when they get to...
This talk of him only training for a 15 lap main is stupid.

What the hell is the kid going to do when they get to the outdoors if he can't make it 25 minutes on a supercross track? Baggett will eat the kid alive if he can't go 35 + 2.
Maybe he'll do this



And I seem to recall a certain baguette getting thoroughly consumed last year, alfresco, I don't know about you.
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3/12/2014 5:19pm
chillrich wrote:
He may have been fatigued from all the late nights spent trying to speak with an Australian accent
Okay this is some funny shit!!




It was already stated that he pumped up, and anybody that has gotten arm pump knows you have to slow down to avoid wadding yourself, but don't let that stop some of you guys to continuing to say he faded!
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3/12/2014 5:23pm
LappedU wrote:
Why not train for 25 laps then 20 comes easy!
GuyB wrote:
The last time I went out to shoot Ryan Villopoto, he started his morning with a 25-lap main.
I would think Ryno would be training him for that amount of time, like Baker would. Anyways, in the RACER -X article, he admits to having arm pump, which would not necessarily be fitness related, so that's encouraging.
3/12/2014 7:25pm
peelout wrote:
Wilson trains to be his best for 15 laps, he was 2nd best for that duration of time. pretty fucking impressive if you ask me. everyone...
Wilson trains to be his best for 15 laps, he was 2nd best for that duration of time. pretty fucking impressive if you ask me.

everyone talking shit on him for fading is fucking clueless.
Riding a 450 tired is nothing like riding a 250 tired......it's misery and hell. I feel like some posting don't understand this.
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3/12/2014 7:30pm
hes gluten free with unlocked hips.he wiill be fine
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3/12/2014 7:33pm
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hes gluten free with unlocked hips.he wiill be fine
Is he using a Better Bread?
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3/12/2014 8:08pm
Wilson tweeted afterwards that he just didn't have 20 laps in him. Pretty straight up. 2nd SX on a 450, held off RD a hell of a long time...faded to 7th. Doesn't sound like much of a failure to me!
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3/12/2014 10:03pm
peelout wrote:
Wilson trains to be his best for 15 laps, he was 2nd best for that duration of time. pretty fucking impressive if you ask me. everyone...
Wilson trains to be his best for 15 laps, he was 2nd best for that duration of time. pretty fucking impressive if you ask me.

everyone talking shit on him for fading is fucking clueless.
another +1 for peelout. wilson will get it done with some time
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3/13/2014 5:44am
davistld01 wrote:
Wilson tweeted afterwards that he just didn't have 20 laps in him. Pretty straight up. 2nd SX on a 450, held off RD a hell of...
Wilson tweeted afterwards that he just didn't have 20 laps in him. Pretty straight up. 2nd SX on a 450, held off RD a hell of a long time...faded to 7th. Doesn't sound like much of a failure to me!
The guys that beat him have had a full season of 450 riding under their belts and plenty of time to acclimate and learn the pace.

I think we all know that the first couple of races in a season, it's easy to blow your load way too early in the race and then just ride around to finish.

I'll be the first to admit that I was a Dean doubter all along but he made me question that last week. Can't wait till the next race to see what he does.
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3/13/2014 6:34am
The difference between practice/training and being hounded by a national champ is huge. When you are training and practicing you are concentrating on hitting your lines and consistent lap times without the worry of having to deal with a lapper, or another rider sticking a wheel up under you in a corner. When you have RD on your ass lap after lap your concentration level is increased and you are putting out much more energy that you do at the practice track.

When I was racing I on average would do 3-4 full tank motos ( Ride the bike till it runs out of fuel) M-F on weeks that I did not have a race that weekend. For race weekends it was M-Th. On the off weekends I would call up a lot of other racers to meet up at local track then spend the day racing and passing practice. It was common to have any where from 30-50 bikes on the track an any given time all of them from novice to local pros. One practice task I would always do with a training partner was to do a moto with a rider that is close to my speed and skill and start 30-45 seconds behind them and chase them down similar to going down at the start.

As for Deano he was racing on a very rough track on a new bike that he is more than likely still getting used to. Add in the pressure of RD and KR on his butt and it is no wonder that he started to fade toward the end of the race. When he is practicing at CR track I doubt that there are more than just a couple of other bikes on the track with him at any given time. it seems that most of the top riders have there own tracks with just a select few on the track with them at any given time. When I raced we did not have that luxury.
3/13/2014 9:38am
Rooster wrote:
This talk of him only training for a 15 lap main is stupid. What the hell is the kid going to do when they get to...
This talk of him only training for a 15 lap main is stupid.

What the hell is the kid going to do when they get to the outdoors if he can't make it 25 minutes on a supercross track? Baggett will eat the kid alive if he can't go 35 + 2.
like Huck said. Why would Dean have to race for an extra 5 minutes than everyone else? And do you remember the fact that Dean has beaten Baggett, and everyone else for that matter, for a national MX championship? I think he'll do just fine. Even if he doesn't win the outdoors title this year, I still think he has a bright future and the potential to win both SX and MX championships on the big bike.
3/13/2014 9:45am
I'd rather qualify 1st in 450's at DAYTONA, beat Stewart and win a heat in 450's at DAYTONA, and then holeshot the main, lead a lap...
I'd rather qualify 1st in 450's at DAYTONA, beat Stewart and win a heat in 450's at DAYTONA, and then holeshot the main, lead a lap and then run behind Villo for most of the race and only fade to 7th in 450's in the final laps, at DAYTONA, in my 2nd ever 450 SX, then to sit behind a keyboard with the only shining victory, your knob!
I agree with you and most everybody else that Dean's ride was impressive. I'm a huge Deano fan, I think he has a bright future, and I want to continue to see him do well.

But I can't stand guys like you that seem to think unless we are able to beat the likes of RV, JS, etc. then we don't have the right to say anything on these boards. Vital boards would be a pretty lonely place if it was required for us to be top 10 in points in order to post anything. Like I said I agree with all the other stuff you wrote, but don't use that "you sit on a computer, while he get's the holeshot at Daytona…" crap again.

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