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David Izer
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Ping in RH:

We scooped the whole selling of the supercross series thing, now I’m getting some dirt out of Chicago that will put a very different twist on the “Supercross” class this year. Apparently, the premier class is going to be open to 450s, 250 two-strokes, AND 250Fs this year. The open format, which is very similar to the U.S. Open’s, will allow riders to choose whatever bike they want to ride in the premier class. The bikes must be homologated, though, and that means you can’t blow out a little bike to a 350 and run that, like some teams have done at the X Games the last couple of years. Obviously, most of the best riders will opt to ride the 450s, but where this rule will come in to play is when Lites riders want to get some time in on the opposite coast. For example, if Trey Canard wants to ride a couple of West rounds to get warmed up, he can sign up in the Supercross class on his 250F and compete. Or if Brett Metcalfe wants to keep racing once the series goes to the East, he can do the same thing there. Remember the problem they had last year with gates not being full in the 450 class? This could help remedy that problem.

Speaking of Metcalfe, it looks like the speedy Aussie is not going to stay at Pro Circuit as expected. My sources say Brett has already signed a letter of intent (possibly a contract) with the GEICO/Factory Connection team. They lost Josh Grant to JGR and have quite a bit of money to play with (about $850,000) to hire another rider. Good news for Brett. That leaves a spot open at Pro Circuit, and I don’t even think Mitch Payton knows who will fill it right now.

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9/12/2008 12:13pm
I wonder if they can race both classes for points. That would be cool.
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9/12/2008 12:15pm
Cool new rule.

Brett, go ahead and change your number if you are changing teams.
David Izer
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9/12/2008 12:18pm
Can you imagine Bubba or RC racing a 125 in the 250 SX class back in the day? Damn.....

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9/12/2008 12:21pm
$850,000 to race in Lites. No wonder no one is in a hurry to move up. Good work if you can get it.

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David Izer
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9/12/2008 12:22pm
How about the first ever East Coast and West Coast Lites Champion in the same year?
9/12/2008 12:24pm
So what would the non-premier class be? Still just 250F's?
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9/12/2008 12:24pm
that sounds good! Ryan Morais is looking for a ride Pro circuit could be good for him.
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9/12/2008 12:35pm
I heard leaving Pro Circuit is the equivalant of dropping 5 positions.
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9/12/2008 12:36pm
This is really good news... i cant wait to see it happen.
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9/12/2008 12:45pm
Hmmm...
I wonder how many riders will opt. to ride 250F's in SX for their entire career. Smile
Also it would be cool to see if Mitch would higher a 250F rider to go after a SX class title.
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9/12/2008 12:49pm
# 24 is looking good for Metty now.
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9/12/2008 1:04pm
Holigan wrote:
$850,000 to race in Lites. No wonder no one is in a hurry to move up. Good work if you can get it.
He could get both Michael and Chris Blose for less.

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9/12/2008 1:30pm
Blake Bagget is fast as hell and he rides Kawis. Don't know how old he is though.
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FastEddy wrote:
Hmmm... I wonder how many riders will opt. to ride 250F's in SX for their entire career. :) Also it would be cool to see if...
Hmmm...
I wonder how many riders will opt. to ride 250F's in SX for their entire career. Smile
Also it would be cool to see if Mitch would higher a 250F rider to go after a SX class title.
yea I bet he wishes he kept Ryan one moe year now LOL he has Pourcel next year though....
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9/12/2008 2:10pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:25pm
250's in the 450 class doesn't make any sense to me. It is redundant to have guys running in two different classes on the same size bike.

Wasn't the point of guys running 450's on the opposite coast so they could get some experience on the big bike before moving up permanently?. It did Dungey's confidence a lot of good this year.

If you can run a 250 with the 450's than why have a 250 class?

9/12/2008 2:18pm
crowe176 wrote:
I heard leaving Pro Circuit is the equivalant of dropping 5 positions.
used to be.. but as TC proved that GEICO/Factory Connection Team has got what it takes equipment wise....Metty could bring Honda another SX2 championship!
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9/12/2008 2:21pm
Is any of this surprising considering who promotes SX now? Look closer into who the series was sold to. I wonder what the three rings will look like on the track.Wink


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9/12/2008 2:21pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:25pm
DownSouth wrote:
250's in the 450 class doesn't make any sense to me. It is redundant to have guys running in two different classes on the same size...
250's in the 450 class doesn't make any sense to me. It is redundant to have guys running in two different classes on the same size bike.

Wasn't the point of guys running 450's on the opposite coast so they could get some experience on the big bike before moving up permanently?. It did Dungey's confidence a lot of good this year.

If you can run a 250 with the 450's than why have a 250 class?

"If you can run a 250 with the 450's then why have a 250 class? "


Bingo...we have a winner! One class by 2010...better for live TV.


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9/12/2008 2:25pm
DownSouth wrote:
250's in the 450 class doesn't make any sense to me. It is redundant to have guys running in two different classes on the same size...
250's in the 450 class doesn't make any sense to me. It is redundant to have guys running in two different classes on the same size bike.

Wasn't the point of guys running 450's on the opposite coast so they could get some experience on the big bike before moving up permanently?. It did Dungey's confidence a lot of good this year.

If you can run a 250 with the 450's than why have a 250 class?

Highsider wrote:
"If you can run a 250 with the 450's then why have a 250 class? " Bingo...we have a winner! One class by 2010...better for live...
"If you can run a 250 with the 450's then why have a 250 class? "


Bingo...we have a winner! One class by 2010...better for live TV.


Jimi J
they could still have both classes just gate them together! so you could still have an sx2 champ and an SX1 then have a SX overall champ..... now thats cool....Cool
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9/12/2008 2:29pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:25pm
DownSouth wrote:
250's in the 450 class doesn't make any sense to me. It is redundant to have guys running in two different classes on the same size...
250's in the 450 class doesn't make any sense to me. It is redundant to have guys running in two different classes on the same size bike.

Wasn't the point of guys running 450's on the opposite coast so they could get some experience on the big bike before moving up permanently?. It did Dungey's confidence a lot of good this year.

If you can run a 250 with the 450's than why have a 250 class?

Highsider wrote:
"If you can run a 250 with the 450's then why have a 250 class? " Bingo...we have a winner! One class by 2010...better for live...
"If you can run a 250 with the 450's then why have a 250 class? "


Bingo...we have a winner! One class by 2010...better for live TV.


Jimi J
One class in 2010? That sounds worse than mixing all the bikes together

So after spending $65 (in 2010 pricing) for a ticket we will get to see a total of 32 laps (20 minutes) of actual racing?
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9/12/2008 2:41pm
How did Villopoto's lap times compare to Reeds/Windhams last year? Was there some tracks with big differences? Some comparable? This new rule is interesting.

At the US Open last year all the 450 contenders were taken out in the first turn. At the X Games the lone 250f couldn't compete. It's hard to imagine someone would want to give up that power especially on a long start.
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David Izer wrote:
Ping in RH: We scooped the whole selling of the supercross series thing, now I’m getting some dirt out of Chicago that will put a very...
Ping in RH:

We scooped the whole selling of the supercross series thing, now I’m getting some dirt out of Chicago that will put a very different twist on the “Supercross” class this year. Apparently, the premier class is going to be open to 450s, 250 two-strokes, AND 250Fs this year. The open format, which is very similar to the U.S. Open’s, will allow riders to choose whatever bike they want to ride in the premier class. The bikes must be homologated, though, and that means you can’t blow out a little bike to a 350 and run that, like some teams have done at the X Games the last couple of years. Obviously, most of the best riders will opt to ride the 450s, but where this rule will come in to play is when Lites riders want to get some time in on the opposite coast. For example, if Trey Canard wants to ride a couple of West rounds to get warmed up, he can sign up in the Supercross class on his 250F and compete. Or if Brett Metcalfe wants to keep racing once the series goes to the East, he can do the same thing there. Remember the problem they had last year with gates not being full in the 450 class? This could help remedy that problem.

Speaking of Metcalfe, it looks like the speedy Aussie is not going to stay at Pro Circuit as expected. My sources say Brett has already signed a letter of intent (possibly a contract) with the GEICO/Factory Connection team. They lost Josh Grant to JGR and have quite a bit of money to play with (about $850,000) to hire another rider. Good news for Brett. That leaves a spot open at Pro Circuit, and I don’t even think Mitch Payton knows who will fill it right now.

THAT IS FANFUGGENTASTIC!!
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9/12/2008 2:58pm
different riders ride bikes differently, it could be an advantage and it definitely is an option so cool. sure doesn't take long for somebody to shit on an idea here does it?


They should actually allow 500cc 2 strokes back in too.

Guess this shits on the great TFS's for sure bet on the 3fiddys
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9/12/2008 3:04pm
Holigan wrote:
$850,000 to race in Lites. No wonder no one is in a hurry to move up. Good work if you can get it.
Ha ha

That's what I thought

Holy Shit they paid Grant 850K for that ?
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9/12/2008 3:06pm
Doesnt FC already have 4 riders that are signed already other than metty?
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9/12/2008 3:26pm
500guy wrote:
Ha ha

That's what I thought

Holy Shit they paid Grant 850K for that ?
im sure it was over the course of 2 or 3 years.....not 850k a year
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9/12/2008 3:32pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:26pm
BobbyM wrote:
different riders ride bikes differently, it could be an advantage and it definitely is an option so cool. sure doesn't take long for somebody to shit...
different riders ride bikes differently, it could be an advantage and it definitely is an option so cool. sure doesn't take long for somebody to shit on an idea here does it?


They should actually allow 500cc 2 strokes back in too.

Guess this shits on the great TFS's for sure bet on the 3fiddys
tru dat, seems like an awesome recipe to create interest and competition! I like these clowns already!

they can call the anything class Winston Cup
and the lesser class Bush

Smile

they can finally lose the stupid names the ama came up with.
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9/12/2008 3:34pm
call the anything clas the Monster SX Class and the lesser class Red Bull SX
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9/12/2008 3:38pm
BobbyM wrote:
different riders ride bikes differently, it could be an advantage and it definitely is an option so cool. sure doesn't take long for somebody to shit...
different riders ride bikes differently, it could be an advantage and it definitely is an option so cool. sure doesn't take long for somebody to shit on an idea here does it?


They should actually allow 500cc 2 strokes back in too.

Guess this shits on the great TFS's for sure bet on the 3fiddys
The thing is, a 250f is going to get smoked at the start. So even if you are faster on the 250f, in a race situation you are going to have to come up from behind.
I don't see that happening except if JS gets bored and decides to ride a small bike.

As far as running only one class in the future, that wouldn't be half bad.
The 450 class is boring these days because unless something happens, you know ahead of time who is going to win. Add several hungry light riders to the mix and the racing is bound to improve. It would suck for the "big boned" riders though.
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9/12/2008 3:39pm
Hmm...didn't I post something about that as a rumor a couple weeks ago?

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