So Zach's win is the Final Proof that the GPs are 3rd rate series, right Geoff?

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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 1:22pm
Seems obvious to me: YOT defector who rode almost zero AMA races this year thumbs a ride to Europe with a couple handfuls of "borrowed" YOT suspension, wins qualifier, wins first WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP moto.

The only conclusion we can draw is that the GP series is obviously a notch or two below the speed of the "B" final amateurs at Loretta's...it is proven!

Or could it be possible that Zach was the recipient of a right wrist full of good karma for being the ONLY RIDER FROM THE AMA SUPERCROSS SERIES TO ATTEND THE BIG AIR KID'S FAIR AT LOMA LINDA CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL back in January of this year!

As a favor to GEOFFGEOFFGEOFF I will go with the karma being the factor...

Peace out, crew!
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8/31/2008 5:39am Edited Date/Time 8/31/2008 5:50am
It’s sad, whet u are happy fore a guy doing good, then some a…hole tares it all down.
And Marc De Reuver has been running 13 the entire race and he beat all "your guys" a week ago.
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Here we go again!
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It’s sad, whet u are happy fore a guy doing good, then some a…hole tares it all down. And Marc De Reuver has been running 13...
It’s sad, whet u are happy fore a guy doing good, then some a…hole tares it all down.
And Marc De Reuver has been running 13 the entire race and he beat all "your guys" a week ago.
He's pulling your wanger dudeWink
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Bauer wrote:
Seems obvious to me: YOT defector who rode almost zero AMA races this year thumbs a ride to Europe with a couple handfuls of "borrowed" YOT...
Seems obvious to me: YOT defector who rode almost zero AMA races this year thumbs a ride to Europe with a couple handfuls of "borrowed" YOT suspension, wins qualifier, wins first WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP moto.

The only conclusion we can draw is that the GP series is obviously a notch or two below the speed of the "B" final amateurs at Loretta's...it is proven!

Or could it be possible that Zach was the recipient of a right wrist full of good karma for being the ONLY RIDER FROM THE AMA SUPERCROSS SERIES TO ATTEND THE BIG AIR KID'S FAIR AT LOMA LINDA CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL back in January of this year!

As a favor to GEOFFGEOFFGEOFF I will go with the karma being the factor...

Peace out, crew!
Using your logic riders like Ferry then should be a notch or 2 below the guys thats a notch or 2 below the speed of the "B" final amateurs at Loretta`s since he got beaten by DeRuver in a moto last week...

I prefer to see it as a great moto by Zach and that he is really developing into a great rider.
Also good too see someone new at the top in the mx2 class, been quite boring lately (atleast comparing to mx1).

Anyways congrats too Zach and hope he can do it again in the second moto!

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Astor wrote:
Using your logic riders like Ferry then should be a notch or 2 below the guys thats a notch or 2 below the speed of the...
Using your logic riders like Ferry then should be a notch or 2 below the guys thats a notch or 2 below the speed of the "B" final amateurs at Loretta`s since he got beaten by DeRuver in a moto last week...

I prefer to see it as a great moto by Zach and that he is really developing into a great rider.
Also good too see someone new at the top in the mx2 class, been quite boring lately (atleast comparing to mx1).

Anyways congrats too Zach and hope he can do it again in the second moto!
Logic? What logic?

I was just hucking a chum line for that Aussie rat bastage, MX Geoff, to choke on...!
8/31/2008 6:16am
just be happy for the guy and let it be, the whole euro vs. ama thing was just easing down...
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Bauer wrote:
Seems obvious to me: YOT defector who rode almost zero AMA races this year thumbs a ride to Europe with a couple handfuls of "borrowed" YOT...
Seems obvious to me: YOT defector who rode almost zero AMA races this year thumbs a ride to Europe with a couple handfuls of "borrowed" YOT suspension, wins qualifier, wins first WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP moto.

The only conclusion we can draw is that the GP series is obviously a notch or two below the speed of the "B" final amateurs at Loretta's...it is proven!

Or could it be possible that Zach was the recipient of a right wrist full of good karma for being the ONLY RIDER FROM THE AMA SUPERCROSS SERIES TO ATTEND THE BIG AIR KID'S FAIR AT LOMA LINDA CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL back in January of this year!

As a favor to GEOFFGEOFFGEOFF I will go with the karma being the factor...

Peace out, crew!
Nice Cast, Steve,

I give you a 9.5 on execution and a 7.5 on difficulty

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Leading 2nd moto.
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That puts YOT's manager as a 3rd rate manager, not zach as a 3rd rate rider.
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Well if you actually watched the race, you would see that Styla was cruising around because Osbourne is no threat to the championship battle, we are not taking nothing away from Osbourne,he rode really well, the track suits him, its flat with no landscape whatsoever. Tyla at the moment is winning by a big margin, Tommy Searle had one of the last picks of the gate and had a bad start and it took him a while to get through the field but because he is third Styla is riding pretty much flat out, we will see next year when Tommy comes over and proves that Europe is not 3rd rate and it will be proven in Donington Park
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8/31/2008 7:41am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:16pm
bullshit start, wasn't trying, the track sucked, bad gate pick, lappers wouldn't get outta the way, sun was in my eyes, gloves were too tight, zipper broke.....



That sounds about right.
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8/31/2008 7:47am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:16pm
No excuses. I think Zach IS that good. He just couldn't put it together since turning pro. He did lead Nat's also. He has the talent but in today's MX that's not enough. One needs a good program.


Again, he was at top ten speed in the mx class last week wasn't he?


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super rat wrote:
bullshit start, wasn't trying, the track sucked, bad gate pick, lappers wouldn't get outta the way, sun was in my eyes, gloves were too tight, zipper...
bullshit start, wasn't trying, the track sucked, bad gate pick, lappers wouldn't get outta the way, sun was in my eyes, gloves were too tight, zipper broke.....



That sounds about right.
Yepp, then it sure got justified when Osborne didn't win the 2nd. You lot are making me sound like I really hate Osborne, i don't, but you'll be quiet when I say that he finished 8th overall, its the opposite to Calmaro last weekend.
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Tommy Searle 2009 ama outdoor lites Champion.
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8/31/2008 7:56am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:16pm
Hoff, Bauer was out fishing and you just got hookedLaughing

Once again Zachs result doesn't tell the story of his day. 8th overall is all the record books say but his speed was awesome. I think that may have been the best track for him to get a podium on as Lierop and Faenza are a million miles away from what they race in the US but he's such a promising talent you wouldn't bet against him. Anyone that can holeshot against those Factory KTMs is clearly on it.
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Townley will give Bubba and RC a run for their money outdoors, you watch.
8/31/2008 8:00am
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Hoff, Bauer was out fishing and you just got hookedOnce again Zachs result doesn't tell the story of his day. 8th overall is all the record...
Hoff, Bauer was out fishing and you just got hookedLaughing

Once again Zachs result doesn't tell the story of his day. 8th overall is all the record books say but his speed was awesome. I think that may have been the best track for him to get a podium on as Lierop and Faenza are a million miles away from what they race in the US but he's such a promising talent you wouldn't bet against him. Anyone that can holeshot against those Factory KTMs is clearly on it.
Yeah I agree, Zachs a quick rider but he was quick in the states to he just couldn't stay injury free long enough to show what he could do, I hope he is not injured from that last race whatever happened to him, it's good having him here racing.
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super rat wrote:
Townley will give Bubba and RC a run for their money outdoors, you watch.
Bubba isn't racing the Nationals, RC's retired so I am hoping you meant RV.
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4QSA wrote:
Tommy Searle 2009 ama outdoor lites Champion.
ha ha thats a good one...
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It’s sad, whet u are happy fore a guy doing good, then some a…hole tares it all down. And Marc De Reuver has been running 13...
It’s sad, whet u are happy fore a guy doing good, then some a…hole tares it all down.
And Marc De Reuver has been running 13 the entire race and he beat all "your guys" a week ago.
no he dnf'ed 2nd moto
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he was using a 2009 cheater bike!
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8/31/2008 10:11am Edited Date/Time 8/31/2008 10:11am
super rat wrote:
Townley will give Bubba and RC a run for their money outdoors, you watch.
BT is the second coming of RC...when he comes.
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who?
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Bauer is always starting trouble.

Good to see Zach reborn hard.
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It’s sad, whet u are happy fore a guy doing good, then some a…hole tares it all down. And Marc De Reuver has been running 13...
It’s sad, whet u are happy fore a guy doing good, then some a…hole tares it all down.
And Marc De Reuver has been running 13 the entire race and he beat all "your guys" a week ago.
Andrew Short and James Stewart would disagree with you.
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Great thread Bauer.
America #1 Smile
Congrats to Zach!

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Great race by Zach. Bummer he fell in moto 2 but ok...

I really don't understand it but this track seems to suit the american guys perfect. A moto win for Zach Osborne and Jacob Saylor who rode in 15th position while normally he can't even qualify for a GP.
According to me this track was the worst of the entire 2008 world championship. It was not a GP worthy imo and still it suited the american guys. I really don't understand why. After moto 1 there was a small interview with Tyla Rattray and said this track looked like an american track. Fast turns with high berms. You could keep the throttle wide open for practically the entire lap and that is why the american riders were fast according to Tyla.

Does Zach's moto win prove that the GP series are 3rd grade ? I doubt it. As said before...Marc could not keep up at all today and he was the 2nd fastest on the track last weekend in Southwick. It all depends on how the track suits the riders.

btw... for those who think that Tommy Gun will next year turn a few heads in the AMA series : "i doubt it". Some people seem to think that he will be able to fight with the leaders but i don't buy that for 1 second. Tommy is nowhere near the level of Ben Townley when Ben rode GP's and we all saw how Ben struggled when he went to the states. I think Tommy will have a very tough time in America.

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