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chrisbuehler 9/21/2013 1:36pm
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Herlings: car crash - raced the next race HUGE practice crash the week before quatar (gopro footage somewhere on the internet) - raced quatar seen his...
Herlings: car crash - raced the next race
HUGE practice crash the week before quatar (gopro footage somewhere on the internet) - raced quatar
seen his Ernee getoff? - raced the day after
Broken shoulder plate (fresh from some weeks ago) - races the toughest track in the world 40 mins
(to be continued)
-> PUSSY/scared

RV: ankle injured (raced with it for a couple of years) - cancles race (I dont blame him at all)
-> NO PUSSY


nice peace of logic guys
Not sure too many people, if any, are calling him a pussy. Maybe some fishing going on but anyone seriously questioning JH's toughness needs to extract head from ass. No need to rehash all your points, dude is tough as nails and no doubt would be out there if he could. Villo is/was riding at his absolute peak and is missing the race for some corny one-off SX race. Where are all the people calling him out? With the US trying to regain the trophy, you would think he would be there and want to make a statement against the best in the world
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wacker 9/21/2013 1:52pm
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crusty_xx wrote:
Herlings: car crash - raced the next race HUGE practice crash the week before quatar (gopro footage somewhere on the internet) - raced quatar seen his...
Herlings: car crash - raced the next race
HUGE practice crash the week before quatar (gopro footage somewhere on the internet) - raced quatar
seen his Ernee getoff? - raced the day after
Broken shoulder plate (fresh from some weeks ago) - races the toughest track in the world 40 mins
(to be continued)
-> PUSSY/scared

RV: ankle injured (raced with it for a couple of years) - cancles race (I dont blame him at all)
-> NO PUSSY


nice peace of logic guys
chrisbuehler wrote:
Not sure too many people, if any, are calling him a pussy. Maybe some fishing going on but anyone seriously questioning JH's toughness needs to extract...
Not sure too many people, if any, are calling him a pussy. Maybe some fishing going on but anyone seriously questioning JH's toughness needs to extract head from ass. No need to rehash all your points, dude is tough as nails and no doubt would be out there if he could. Villo is/was riding at his absolute peak and is missing the race for some corny one-off SX race. Where are all the people calling him out? With the US trying to regain the trophy, you would think he would be there and want to make a statement against the best in the world
I am sure Villopoto choosing to take care of this old injury immediately after the nationals has absolutely nothing do do with the fact that waiting until after the MXDN would leave him with a month less recovery and prep time for SX, which I am sure isn't nearly as important to him as MXDN. (sarcasm)

Villo missing des Nations has nothing to do with des Nations or Monster Cup. It is prep time for what really matters to him and his sponsors. And, accordingly, Monster Cup happens to work out in that as well for his prep, and his sponsors.

Using this logic. Millsaps is a pussy, and skipped the nationals and a possible MXDN appearance to get his injuries fixed. He could have waited as well.

Because you, the fans, think this is the most important race in the world doesn't necessarily mean it means shit to a rider and his career. Yeah, it is a rad race and an honor to go, but also a huge risk. Not that anyone here cares, as I can see by the multitude of nonsense coming out in most peoples posts.
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wacker 9/21/2013 1:53pm
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chrisbuehler, this wasn't directed toward you, just addressing this line of your post, "Villo is/was riding at his absolute peak and is missing the race for some corny one-off SX race. "
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chrisbuehler 9/21/2013 2:16pm
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chrisbuehler, this wasn't directed toward you, just addressing this line of your post, "Villo is/was riding at his absolute peak and is missing the race for...
chrisbuehler, this wasn't directed toward you, just addressing this line of your post, "Villo is/was riding at his absolute peak and is missing the race for some corny one-off SX race. "
I didn't realize the timeline for RV as far as surgery and the start of SX was concerned. Def agree SX must take priority over everything else especially considering he's going for the 4-peat. I would have loved to see him put a raping on AC222. There isn't a guy that lines up for any pro race that's a "pussy", by the way. I know your comment wasn't directed at me, just saying. If anyone thinks differently, they probably never raced before

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gharmon 9/21/2013 2:40pm
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Assuming Jeffrey doesn't have a change of heart and doesn't race next weekend; in retrospect from the pov of doing the MXDN, maybe he shouldn't have...
Assuming Jeffrey doesn't have a change of heart and doesn't race next weekend; in retrospect from the pov of doing the MXDN, maybe he shouldn't have raced Lierop. But with that said he's hardly the first rider to ignore the doctors trying to come back too early. Happens all the time, especially with these younger guys. There you go.

RV's missing the MXDN in essence just to make the MEC (perhaps another million to the millions he has already). Not that I blame Ryan either - ultimately the career window is small and these guys will do what's best for themselves. I just don't think Jeffrey deserves any particular criticism in that regard, especially given the RV situation.
That's why a lot of us aren't saying shit. I am saddened both are missing it. I understand both situations but the selfish part of me wants to point a finger at them for not going. At the end of the day they do what's best for them because like you said these career windows are short.

Either way I have already taken the weekend off and I'll be up at like 4-5 am watching this shit!!! Go team USA!!
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gharmon 9/21/2013 2:47pm
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He doesn't race cause his docter discovered nerve damage in his arm this week. If he rides the next 6 weeks, he risks permanent damage.

http://www.motocrossplanet.nl/nieuws/id21222-Zes_weken_rust_voor_Jeffre…
With that said, anyone who risks permanent damage an then races is an idiot. Knowing this I wouldn't race either. It's only one race.. You have to hang on to the arm the rest of your life.
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RealityZ 9/21/2013 6:37pm
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If Herlings was able to race Leirop a few weeks back he would've been fine for MXdN, had he not raced the pointless GP.

You're a fool if you didn't see this coming the moment he decided to race Leirop, for what reason, to race in front of his homecrowd?


Gimme a fucking break, if I was from his country I would much rather see him race the MXdN than his home GP where he would smoke everyone. You think Stefan and KTM would rather him race a GP than the biggest race in the world. Sorry, but I call bullshit and called this exact same thing happening when he was in for Leirop.

As far as RV.. if he would've raced MXdN and then gotten ankle surgery that would've left him around a month to get ready for A1...

He was nothing to prove. Period. Id take another SX Title over MXdN prolly too
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FreshTopEnd 9/21/2013 7:21pm
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Does he get win bonuses for GP wins?
TripleDigit 9/21/2013 8:54pm
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If Herlings was able to race Leirop a few weeks back he would've been fine for MXdN, had he not raced the pointless GP. You're a...
If Herlings was able to race Leirop a few weeks back he would've been fine for MXdN, had he not raced the pointless GP.

You're a fool if you didn't see this coming the moment he decided to race Leirop, for what reason, to race in front of his homecrowd?


Gimme a fucking break, if I was from his country I would much rather see him race the MXdN than his home GP where he would smoke everyone. You think Stefan and KTM would rather him race a GP than the biggest race in the world. Sorry, but I call bullshit and called this exact same thing happening when he was in for Leirop.

As far as RV.. if he would've raced MXdN and then gotten ankle surgery that would've left him around a month to get ready for A1...

He was nothing to prove. Period. Id take another SX Title over MXdN prolly too
RV did Elsinore on Aug 24 skipped the MXdN but in for the MEC on Oct 19,that's 8 weeks

Mxdn is Sept 29 and A1 SX is 4 Jan,that's 14 weeks

MEC is Oct 19 and A1 is Jan 4,that's 11 weeks

So in theory he could've done the MXdN, he has way more than a month to prepare for the defence of his SX title,(14 wks in total)at the end of the day he chose the MEC over MXdN but the logic above says he couldv'e actually done both!

And by your logic,well you're from the US so surely you should rather see RV at the MXdN than at his home championships because you said if you were Dutch you'd rather see Herlings do the MXdN instead of his home GP,which for him is huge btw,far from "pointless",

I'm not bagging on him or Herlings missing anyrace,just putting up another side,people were so quick to defend RV for not racing what some called an "exhibition race" and now Herlings isn't doing it all of a sudden it's the biggest race in the world (which it is) and he's getting flamed

I'd rather have rather seen RV at the (monster energy)MXdN than at the MEC ,which personally I couldn't give a shit about,like most MX fans across the world,its a US SX type of thing afterall,sure he'll make a ton of $$ but good for him

I just dont see the flaming on Herlings not for RV,both aren't doing it,shame for us fans but these things happen,


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RealityZ 9/21/2013 9:02pm
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
Does he get win bonuses for GP wins?
Obviously,

Is increasing your yearly profit by 5% worth it, if your risking a tool needed to maximize a short term plan?
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RealityZ 9/21/2013 9:55pm
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If Herlings was able to race Leirop a few weeks back he would've been fine for MXdN, had he not raced the pointless GP. You're a...
If Herlings was able to race Leirop a few weeks back he would've been fine for MXdN, had he not raced the pointless GP.

You're a fool if you didn't see this coming the moment he decided to race Leirop, for what reason, to race in front of his homecrowd?


Gimme a fucking break, if I was from his country I would much rather see him race the MXdN than his home GP where he would smoke everyone. You think Stefan and KTM would rather him race a GP than the biggest race in the world. Sorry, but I call bullshit and called this exact same thing happening when he was in for Leirop.

As far as RV.. if he would've raced MXdN and then gotten ankle surgery that would've left him around a month to get ready for A1...

He was nothing to prove. Period. Id take another SX Title over MXdN prolly too
TripleDigit wrote:
RV did Elsinore on Aug 24 skipped the MXdN but in for the MEC on Oct 19,that's 8 weeks Mxdn is Sept 29 and A1 SX...
RV did Elsinore on Aug 24 skipped the MXdN but in for the MEC on Oct 19,that's 8 weeks

Mxdn is Sept 29 and A1 SX is 4 Jan,that's 14 weeks

MEC is Oct 19 and A1 is Jan 4,that's 11 weeks

So in theory he could've done the MXdN, he has way more than a month to prepare for the defence of his SX title,(14 wks in total)at the end of the day he chose the MEC over MXdN but the logic above says he couldv'e actually done both!

And by your logic,well you're from the US so surely you should rather see RV at the MXdN than at his home championships because you said if you were Dutch you'd rather see Herlings do the MXdN instead of his home GP,which for him is huge btw,far from "pointless",

I'm not bagging on him or Herlings missing anyrace,just putting up another side,people were so quick to defend RV for not racing what some called an "exhibition race" and now Herlings isn't doing it all of a sudden it's the biggest race in the world (which it is) and he's getting flamed

I'd rather have rather seen RV at the (monster energy)MXdN than at the MEC ,which personally I couldn't give a shit about,like most MX fans across the world,its a US SX type of thing afterall,sure he'll make a ton of $$ but good for him

I just dont see the flaming on Herlings not for RV,both aren't doing it,shame for us fans but these things happen,


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RV races, MEC a one off race, (3) 10 lappers then weeksss to prep for SX as needed.

RV races, MXdN leaves about 7 weeks after surgery and A1 press week. That cuts it tight.
TripleDigit 9/21/2013 11:19pm
9/21/2013 11:19pm
RealityZ wrote:
If Herlings was able to race Leirop a few weeks back he would've been fine for MXdN, had he not raced the pointless GP. You're a...
If Herlings was able to race Leirop a few weeks back he would've been fine for MXdN, had he not raced the pointless GP.

You're a fool if you didn't see this coming the moment he decided to race Leirop, for what reason, to race in front of his homecrowd?


Gimme a fucking break, if I was from his country I would much rather see him race the MXdN than his home GP where he would smoke everyone. You think Stefan and KTM would rather him race a GP than the biggest race in the world. Sorry, but I call bullshit and called this exact same thing happening when he was in for Leirop.

As far as RV.. if he would've raced MXdN and then gotten ankle surgery that would've left him around a month to get ready for A1...

He was nothing to prove. Period. Id take another SX Title over MXdN prolly too
TripleDigit wrote:
RV did Elsinore on Aug 24 skipped the MXdN but in for the MEC on Oct 19,that's 8 weeks Mxdn is Sept 29 and A1 SX...
RV did Elsinore on Aug 24 skipped the MXdN but in for the MEC on Oct 19,that's 8 weeks

Mxdn is Sept 29 and A1 SX is 4 Jan,that's 14 weeks

MEC is Oct 19 and A1 is Jan 4,that's 11 weeks

So in theory he could've done the MXdN, he has way more than a month to prepare for the defence of his SX title,(14 wks in total)at the end of the day he chose the MEC over MXdN but the logic above says he couldv'e actually done both!

And by your logic,well you're from the US so surely you should rather see RV at the MXdN than at his home championships because you said if you were Dutch you'd rather see Herlings do the MXdN instead of his home GP,which for him is huge btw,far from "pointless",

I'm not bagging on him or Herlings missing anyrace,just putting up another side,people were so quick to defend RV for not racing what some called an "exhibition race" and now Herlings isn't doing it all of a sudden it's the biggest race in the world (which it is) and he's getting flamed

I'd rather have rather seen RV at the (monster energy)MXdN than at the MEC ,which personally I couldn't give a shit about,like most MX fans across the world,its a US SX type of thing afterall,sure he'll make a ton of $$ but good for him

I just dont see the flaming on Herlings not for RV,both aren't doing it,shame for us fans but these things happen,


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RV races, MEC a one off race, (3) 10 lappers then weeksss to prep for SX as needed. RV races, MXdN leaves about 7 weeks after...
RV races, MEC a one off race, (3) 10 lappers then weeksss to prep for SX as needed.

RV races, MXdN leaves about 7 weeks after surgery and A1 press week. That cuts it tight.
"As far as RV.. if he would've raced MXdN and then gotten ankle surgery that would've left him around a month to get ready for A1.."

?????? Horseshit!

Read my post above,your maths are WAY off,

He' doing the MEC 8 weeks after racing Elsinore

Surgery is in there somewhere too

MXdN is 14 weeks off A1

Some might say why risk the MEC anyway if SX is the biggie,there's just as much track time with the long laps,practice,qualifying etc

As I say he could have done both going by the weeks between the events,looks like he simply decided not to do the MXdN and lots of guys on here agreed with it
TripleDigit 9/21/2013 11:31pm
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
Does he get win bonuses for GP wins?
RealityZ wrote:
Obviously,

Is increasing your yearly profit by 5% worth it, if your risking a tool needed to maximize a short term plan?
And what about the Dutch Championship he was down to race this weekend? What if he'd hurt himself there defending that title?

Or even next week at the MXdN if he'd crashed and hurt the shoulder at a race he's not getting paid for some might say?

At the end of the day if it hindered progress or just highlighted it,Lierop is all hindsight fella
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Jasper125 9/22/2013 9:35am
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Isn't riding MXON for you're country the biggest honor there is???
We know he can ride sand but i would like him to see battle with the best in the world and not see a half healed up herlings ride lierop...

I'm from holland so don't think im a Herlings hater i just don't get his decision of riding lierop.
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Lefty Right 9/22/2013 11:35am
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RealityZ wrote:
If Herlings was able to race Leirop a few weeks back he would've been fine for MXdN, had he not raced the pointless GP. You're a...
If Herlings was able to race Leirop a few weeks back he would've been fine for MXdN, had he not raced the pointless GP.

You're a fool if you didn't see this coming the moment he decided to race Leirop, for what reason, to race in front of his homecrowd?


Gimme a fucking break, if I was from his country I would much rather see him race the MXdN than his home GP where he would smoke everyone. You think Stefan and KTM would rather him race a GP than the biggest race in the world. Sorry, but I call bullshit and called this exact same thing happening when he was in for Leirop.

As far as RV.. if he would've raced MXdN and then gotten ankle surgery that would've left him around a month to get ready for A1...

He was nothing to prove. Period. Id take another SX Title over MXdN prolly too
TripleDigit wrote:
RV did Elsinore on Aug 24 skipped the MXdN but in for the MEC on Oct 19,that's 8 weeks Mxdn is Sept 29 and A1 SX...
RV did Elsinore on Aug 24 skipped the MXdN but in for the MEC on Oct 19,that's 8 weeks

Mxdn is Sept 29 and A1 SX is 4 Jan,that's 14 weeks

MEC is Oct 19 and A1 is Jan 4,that's 11 weeks

So in theory he could've done the MXdN, he has way more than a month to prepare for the defence of his SX title,(14 wks in total)at the end of the day he chose the MEC over MXdN but the logic above says he couldv'e actually done both!

And by your logic,well you're from the US so surely you should rather see RV at the MXdN than at his home championships because you said if you were Dutch you'd rather see Herlings do the MXdN instead of his home GP,which for him is huge btw,far from "pointless",

I'm not bagging on him or Herlings missing anyrace,just putting up another side,people were so quick to defend RV for not racing what some called an "exhibition race" and now Herlings isn't doing it all of a sudden it's the biggest race in the world (which it is) and he's getting flamed

I'd rather have rather seen RV at the (monster energy)MXdN than at the MEC ,which personally I couldn't give a shit about,like most MX fans across the world,its a US SX type of thing afterall,sure he'll make a ton of $$ but good for him

I just dont see the flaming on Herlings not for RV,both aren't doing it,shame for us fans but these things happen,


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RV's favorite thing in the world is deer hunting and the season just opened in washington..

I bet he would rather be hunting than racing the MXoN any way...Wink Whistling He deserves a little Rand L
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DrSweden 9/22/2013 2:00pm
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Sux with JH. I'm pretty sure he's 1000 times more bummed than us. Picture being him, beating everybody, and there's tons of doubters out there saying xxxx (with a US-passport is better), and Roczen etc, picture that 18-year old ego want to go for it. There's no doubt in my mind, he's in more pain no racing than the other way around...

For a speedy recovery.

Pretty sure there will be races in the future for him, and us to talk about (when it comes to MXDN and US vs the world)...
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FreshTopEnd 9/22/2013 4:47pm
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Herlings, unfortunately, is going to have some of the same problems Stewart has: some people strongly dislike him (for whatever reason), they're not going to change their minds, and they'll find a reason to disparage whatever decisions he makes not so much because of the decision, but that he made it.
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RealityZ 9/22/2013 11:09pm
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A1 is the biggest race in the biggest series in the world of MX

MXdN is the biggest race for those not competing in the above series

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TripleDigit 9/23/2013 1:55am
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RealityZ wrote:
A1 is the biggest race in the biggest series in the world of MX MXdN is the biggest race for those not competing in the above...
A1 is the biggest race in the biggest series in the world of MX

MXdN is the biggest race for those not competing in the above series
A1 is the biggest for mum,dad and the kids to sit down and watch,plenty of popcorn,burgers and supersize fizzy pop

MXdN is the biggest race in the World of MX
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uk125250 9/23/2013 7:54am
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RealityZ wrote:
A1 is the biggest race in the biggest series in the world of MX MXdN is the biggest race for those not competing in the above...
A1 is the biggest race in the biggest series in the world of MX

MXdN is the biggest race for those not competing in the above series
This is a really clueless statement. Ask Ricky Carmichael which is bigger.
crusty_xx 9/23/2013 8:33am
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saying mx2 aka b class at lorettas is an even more clueless statement lol are you kidding me? xD

ask your fellow countrymen that raced here they will teach you a lesson (maybe start with Convington, he got 4th in EMX2 - which isnt bad - the guys he got beat from are somewhere at the tail end of the top20 in MX2 when they race there - and no it was not because of the track which is pretty much american'ish)
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saying mx2 aka b class at lorettas is an even more clueless statement lol are you kidding me? xD ask your fellow countrymen that raced here...
saying mx2 aka b class at lorettas is an even more clueless statement lol are you kidding me? xD

ask your fellow countrymen that raced here they will teach you a lesson (maybe start with Convington, he got 4th in EMX2 - which isnt bad - the guys he got beat from are somewhere at the tail end of the top20 in MX2 when they race there - and no it was not because of the track which is pretty much american'ish)
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I'll never learn it.
but Ive heard that before and that guy was serious.. you may guess which country he was from

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