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8/19/2013 12:53pm
Grieby54 wrote:
Where did he finish in points this season?
weimers a 5th-10th place guy too and he finished third last year.
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8/19/2013 1:05pm
NoGo wrote:
weimers a 5th-10th place guy too and he finished third last year.
did #51 go Bam-Bam in your lady?

"w/o starts he's nothing..."

w/o boots, canard would have a tough time finishing the race, but guess what, he wears boots, just as there is a 'start'
w/o a bike, Stew would have a tough time too, good thing he gets to use his bike during the race

your argument is invalid.
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8/19/2013 1:18pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2013 1:24pm
smoker wrote:
did #51 go Bam-Bam in your lady? "w/o starts he's nothing..." w/o boots, canard would have a tough time finishing the race, but guess what, he...
did #51 go Bam-Bam in your lady?

"w/o starts he's nothing..."

w/o boots, canard would have a tough time finishing the race, but guess what, he wears boots, just as there is a 'start'
w/o a bike, Stew would have a tough time too, good thing he gets to use his bike during the race

your argument is invalid.
your rebutal is nonsensical

how is the argument invalid when im saying if he starts in 10th he finishs in 10th?
the argument would be invalid if i said he only beats "so and so" when he has a good start.

if he does not start at the front he can not finish at the front.or anywhere near it.

shit even when he does start at the front barring a disaster from trey and stewie(which theyve been full of all season) they along with the ryans catch pass and gap him leaving him battling for 5th-10th.

he will only go further back as millsaps makes his return and tomac enters the class.
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8/19/2013 1:24pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2013 1:24pm
w/o the finish line, nobody would finish.

Curious, when has anybody had to start in 10th? I thought they all started in a straight line?

how does he have 72 more points than Canard and 86 more than stew? how did that happen if they are the better riders?

just a reminder cause it seems like you are missing something, starting is part of the race, just as much as finishing it and the racing that takes place between those two events.

anyways, enjoy your opinion, I'll enjoy mine.

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8/19/2013 1:34pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2013 1:35pm
smoker wrote:
w/o the finish line, nobody would finish. Curious, when has anybody had to start in 10th? I thought they all started in a straight line? how...
w/o the finish line, nobody would finish.

Curious, when has anybody had to start in 10th? I thought they all started in a straight line?

how does he have 72 more points than Canard and 86 more than stew? how did that happen if they are the better riders?

just a reminder cause it seems like you are missing something, starting is part of the race, just as much as finishing it and the racing that takes place between those two events.

anyways, enjoy your opinion, I'll enjoy mine.
where do i say starting and finishing isnt apart of the race?

you are having clear trouble comprehending.

IF he can start in the top 5 he will finish there, usually 5th as both canard and stewart can and have ran him down.

however, WHEN he doesnt start within the top 5 he CAN NOT make the passes to get there.
you cant holeshot every race! where every other rider makes passes after a bad or mediocre start he simply stagnates.

making him a 5th to 10th place rider.

tell me where im invalid. and where youre retarded argument of "without a finish nobody would finish, without a bike etc" is valid.
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8/19/2013 1:42pm
I was showing you an invalid argument that you could compare to your own. See how dumb they are?

so, if he starts in 7th, where does he finish?
If JB waits till everybody is off the line for 10 seconds, where does he finish?
If Weimer starts in 9th and JB 11th, who wins the race?
If Stew has stew for dinner, what kind of stew would it be?
How much wood can a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
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how old are you?
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8/19/2013 1:47pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2013 1:51pm
smoker wrote:
I was showing you an invalid argument that you could compare to your own. See how dumb they are? so, if he starts in 7th, where...
I was showing you an invalid argument that you could compare to your own. See how dumb they are?

so, if he starts in 7th, where does he finish?
If JB waits till everybody is off the line for 10 seconds, where does he finish?
If Weimer starts in 9th and JB 11th, who wins the race?
If Stew has stew for dinner, what kind of stew would it be?
How much wood can a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
starts 7th with two 10th -20th riders ahead of him hell finish 5th
if weimer starts in 9th and jb 11th, ryan wins the race
if he waits til everybody is off the line for 10 seconds he might crack the top 20
if stew has stew for dinner its probably beef stew? maybe chicken if chicken stew exists/
if a wood chuck could chuck wood , he could make a killing in the lumber business.

im 22 but my age doesnt change the fact that barcia=5th to 10th place rider
when im 30 will he be better at passing ?
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8/19/2013 1:56pm
At Hangtown Barcia was 9th on the 1st lap and finished 5th. The 2nd moto he started 11th and finished 5th. Redbud 2nd moto he started 7th and finished 5th.
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At Hangtown Barcia was 9th on the 1st lap and finished 5th. The 2nd moto he started 11th and finished 5th. Redbud 2nd moto he started...
At Hangtown Barcia was 9th on the 1st lap and finished 5th. The 2nd moto he started 11th and finished 5th. Redbud 2nd moto he started 7th and finished 5th.
thanks man!

5th-10th rider!
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8/19/2013 2:06pm
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starts 7th with two 10th -20th riders ahead of him hell finish 5th if weimer starts in 9th and jb 11th, ryan wins the race if...
starts 7th with two 10th -20th riders ahead of him hell finish 5th
if weimer starts in 9th and jb 11th, ryan wins the race
if he waits til everybody is off the line for 10 seconds he might crack the top 20
if stew has stew for dinner its probably beef stew? maybe chicken if chicken stew exists/
if a wood chuck could chuck wood , he could make a killing in the lumber business.

im 22 but my age doesnt change the fact that barcia=5th to 10th place rider
when im 30 will he be better at passing ?
you are being pretty harsh on a rookie who just finished 3rd in what is considered a stacked field in the premier 450 class.

since you are being so transparent, mind telling us what your beef with JB is?
and yes, you do have a beef, since he finished 3rd and you're calling him a 5th-10th place guy. give credit where it's due.
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8/19/2013 2:12pm
smoker wrote:
you are being pretty harsh on a rookie who just finished 3rd in what is considered a stacked field in the premier 450 class. since you...
you are being pretty harsh on a rookie who just finished 3rd in what is considered a stacked field in the premier 450 class.

since you are being so transparent, mind telling us what your beef with JB is?
and yes, you do have a beef, since he finished 3rd and you're calling him a 5th-10th place guy. give credit where it's due.
credit-he has had a consistent rookie season.

beef-he is not the second coming to any dominant rider, nor can he even play second fiddle to a dominant rider.

he is a 5th-10th place guy.
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8/19/2013 2:20pm
smoker wrote:
you are being pretty harsh on a rookie who just finished 3rd in what is considered a stacked field in the premier 450 class. since you...
you are being pretty harsh on a rookie who just finished 3rd in what is considered a stacked field in the premier 450 class.

since you are being so transparent, mind telling us what your beef with JB is?
and yes, you do have a beef, since he finished 3rd and you're calling him a 5th-10th place guy. give credit where it's due.
NoGo wrote:
credit-he has had a consistent rookie season. beef-he is not the second coming to any dominant rider, nor can he even play second fiddle to a...
credit-he has had a consistent rookie season.

beef-he is not the second coming to any dominant rider, nor can he even play second fiddle to a dominant rider.

he is a 5th-10th place guy.
so you must have a hard time liking the following:

anyone not named Ryan Villopoto, Ryan Dungey, or Eli Tomac.

must be fun living in that close-minded world you live in.



regarding Barcia, we got it in your first post that you only want to put down his ability. move along, you're sounding like a broken record.

ps... are you sure you weren't Husquerdo in a previous posting life?
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i have a problem with people who think barcia is more than what he is...a 5th-10th place rider
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8/19/2013 2:57pm
NoGo wrote:
i have a problem with people who think barcia is more than what he is...a 5th-10th place rider
pretty cool that your put your own rating system above ama's.
send them your credentials, maybe they could your help?

what did he finish in his rookie year in sx?
Answer: 4th, ahead of Canard and Stew.

So, in his rookie season, he finished 4th in sx and 3rd in mx, but somehow he is a 5th-10th place guy. I am so confused.

Who in this thread said anything about the second coming of anything? It's a thread about a racing incident/takeout.
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8/19/2013 3:03pm
NoGo wrote:
i have a problem with people who think barcia is more than what he is...a 5th-10th place rider
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he consistently battles for 5th-10th place.3rd in points. but battling for 5th-10th place. thats not a selfmade rating system those are his results.
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Barcia has been top 4 in 14 motos this year.
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He has been top 4 in 14 motos this year.
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NoGo wrote:
he consistently battles for 5th-10th place.3rd in points. but battling for 5th-10th place. thats not a selfmade rating system those are his results.
for the record, you fucking idiot...

Utah 11-4
Unadilla 4-2
Millville 3-5
Washougal 4-17
RedBud 9-4
Southwick 3-3
Budds Creek 4-8
High Point 3-7
Muddy Creek 2-2
Thunder Valley 3-4
Hangtown 5-5
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8/19/2013 4:10pm
yeah 5th-10th place guy
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NoGo wrote:
he consistently battles for 5th-10th place.3rd in points. but battling for 5th-10th place. thats not a selfmade rating system those are his results.
peelout wrote:
for the record, you fucking idiot... Utah 11-4 Unadilla 4-2 Millville 3-5 Washougal 4-17 RedBud 9-4 Southwick 3-3 Budds Creek 4-8 High Point 3-7 Muddy Creek...
for the record, you fucking idiot...

Utah 11-4
Unadilla 4-2
Millville 3-5
Washougal 4-17
RedBud 9-4
Southwick 3-3
Budds Creek 4-8
High Point 3-7
Muddy Creek 2-2
Thunder Valley 3-4
Hangtown 5-5
To be fair, if you average those out you get

Utah 8th
Unadilla 3rd
Millville 4th
Washougal 10.5th
RedBud 6.5th
Southwick 3rd
Budds Creek 6th
High Point 5th
Muddy Creek 2nd
Thunder Valley 3.5th
Hangtown 5th

for an average of 4.7th place per round
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8/19/2013 4:24pm
Crush wrote:
To be fair, if you average those out you get Utah 8th Unadilla 3rd Millville 4th Washougal 10.5th RedBud 6.5th Southwick 3rd Budds Creek 6th High...
To be fair, if you average those out you get

Utah 8th
Unadilla 3rd
Millville 4th
Washougal 10.5th
RedBud 6.5th
Southwick 3rd
Budds Creek 6th
High Point 5th
Muddy Creek 2nd
Thunder Valley 3.5th
Hangtown 5th

for an average of 4.7th place per round
while you have your calculator out, will you tell me if 4.7 falls in the range of 5-10?

and then, NoGo can explain what average finishes have to do with anything in a series where points are scored.
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8/19/2013 4:28pm
Out of 22 motos he finished better than 5th 14 times..................... NoGo you're just plain wrong.
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5th -10th forsure
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8/19/2013 4:41pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2013 4:43pm
his average finish is 5.09, with a median finish of 4 from this set of numbers.
11,4,4,2,3,5,4,17, 9,4,3,3,4,8,3,7,2,2,3,4,5,5
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8/19/2013 4:51pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2013 5:14pm
jtiger12 wrote:
his average finish is 5.09, with a median finish of 4 from this set of numbers.
11,4,4,2,3,5,4,17, 9,4,3,3,4,8,3,7,2,2,3,4,5,5
Unnecessary to do this? Absolutely. But this is Vital.

And I would absolutely consider Barcia to be a 1st-5th place guy.

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8/19/2013 5:52pm
Should the best and worst place finishes be thrown out?

P.S. The racing and the facility where top notch this weekend.

P.P.S. I like turtles
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