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7/14/2013 1:29pm
Its a shame Desalle doesnt ride like that against Cairoli, instead of being such a pussy every time Tony shows him a wheel... the only time Searle got close to Desalle was when he made the pass, which was clean enough in my book , my thought are that Clement has realised that not only is he never going to win again, he also isnt going to finish second any more either..and his stock value is going down in the face of competition from Searle, Paulin and even Van Hoorebeeck.
7/14/2013 11:14pm
The thing with sand is that to a degree it dictates your direction and so some contact is inevitable as with Cairoli but DeSalle's moves were calculated.
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7/15/2013 1:14am Edited Date/Time 7/15/2013 1:17am
From OTOR for those that didn't see it:

http://ontrackoffroad.com/searle-vs-desalle-the-reaction/

Searle vs Desalle: the reaction…
July 14, 2013 by Adam Wheeler
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One of the biggest talking points from the MXGP of Finland was the ‘battle’ between Tommy Searle and Clement Desalle. Here is what both had to say…

 
Searle: “The backmarkers held me up which is the only reason he was able to catch me again. He passed me once – dirty – and then I got him back so-cleanly at the top of the hill; I had way-more of an opportunity to hit him or put him off the track but I did it cleanly. We came down to the double and he pushed me wide and off course. I got back in front and then he cleaned me out.”
 
Desalle: “There was a lot of fighting with Tommy in the second moto but this is racing. He showed that he wasn’t going to let me pass. He came close and I wanted to show that I am also there and if he wanted to do ‘that’ then I would also.”
 
Searle: “I don’t know why [he did it] because you cannot pass in that corner. He came away second and I leave with eleventh, so it worked out for him but it was a bit silly. Obviously it is disappointing when you ride well and stuff happens like that. It was a bit out of line what Desalle did, but it happened and we’ll move on to next weekend.”
 
Desalle: “They made the track like it is only one line so if you want to pass then you have to take more risks to overtake the guy in front and you can lose a lot of time. I did my best today and I am happy to be on the podium again.”
 
Searle: “In one way I’m happy because my riding is good. This is my first year in the championship and it is all about building. I think everyone can see my pace is getting where it needs to be. For me realistically the results don’t matter too much because I’m not going for a championship or a top three finish in the class. Whether I’m fucking fifth, sixth or seventh it makes no difference to me. I want to win championships…so this year is just about building.”


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7/15/2013 3:15am Edited Date/Time 7/15/2013 3:18am
Desalle needs to get served up good and proper for the moves he pulled, i have lost a lot of respect for him as a fan and i doubt i will be alone in wishing him his slice of hows ya father, the moves were plain dirty - him and Dedycker both play foul when it suits them, the problem is that it is usually with the people that play clean. I understand a bit of niggling when it's a 2 way street like the rest but that was plain unprofessional - fu**in loser. He knows he is now facing yet another faster rider in Searle and he doesn't like it.

PhilG above has it right - 25 is a fuc**ng full on faggot with Cairoli whenever he comes close, the reason being is AC will give it back and probably a lot faster as well - as small as Cairoli is he is gnarly bastard when its time to play dirty and he has proven that previously with 25, Desalle should know better - he clearly rides in his safety blanket since his string of injuries and then he looks to impose moves like that on other riders ultimately risking safety !

I am sure he will get a nice welcome come the British GP.

Desalle: “They made the track like it is only one line so if you want to pass then you have to take more risks to overtake the guy in front and you can lose a lot of time. I did my best today and I am happy to be on the podium again.”
which should have been followed swiftly by:
Can you count how many passes were made that didn't involve blatant take outs? A LOT !

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7/15/2013 3:50am Edited Date/Time 7/15/2013 3:51am
Yeah, I've been loosing respect for De Dyker too. Being an agressive rider is one thing and taking out "newbies" while letting Tony bie.. Remind me of school bullies
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7/15/2013 3:57am
What a surprise, Desalle is a douchebag.
7/15/2013 6:56am Edited Date/Time 7/15/2013 7:49am
mmcmx wrote:
Yeah, I've been loosing respect for De Dyker too. Being an agressive rider is one thing and taking out "newbies" while letting Tony bie.. Remind me...
Yeah, I've been loosing respect for De Dyker too. Being an agressive rider is one thing and taking out "newbies" while letting Tony bie.. Remind me of school bullies
Yup !

It's such a shame as well as it makes you dislike racers that you want to like, it's not like the days gone by where DP19 and others were constantly taking each other out and playing rough - that was a given and almost accepted by all involved as they all seemed to take part and it was tit for tat - but lately it's beyond a joke and especially when it's really not warranted, sometimes i wish there was somebody pulling them up for it and actually docking them points to reign it in a bit, for instance did you see some of the shit Dedycker pulled with JVH earlier this year? He was blatantly just stopping mid corner and watching his line in order to fuck him up, it's like - hey he is new, younger, weaker - get the little bastard, who does he thiink he is racing competitively in the big class.

Grow up and race FFS

They can all get their own back IMO - I expect Paulin is dying to give AC a little taste, he has really surprised me with how refrained he has been, fair play to him for concentrating on the racing.
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7/15/2013 7:04am
Wow, haven't heard that much about him. Glad for him
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7/15/2013 7:34am
Cairoli admidded after first race that he had to go for block pass to get past Desalle, but that wasn't a dirty pass. Anyways, apparently Searle still didn't remember that we don't have In-N-Out in Europe, after the crash with Desalle he was going in and out of the pit something like 50mph Wink
7/15/2013 10:40am
well it does create some entertainment watching 2 queens fight Laughing hard to feel sorry for searle though hes been just as big a douche on previous occasions only difference this weekend he was on the receiving end Whistling
7/15/2013 10:59am
After watching the block pass that put cairoli on desalle,i must say that desalle was lucky to not crash.It was a nasty move too!
7/15/2013 11:05am
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well it does create some entertainment watching 2 queens fight :laugh: hard to feel sorry for searle though hes been just as big a douche on...
well it does create some entertainment watching 2 queens fight Laughing hard to feel sorry for searle though hes been just as big a douche on previous occasions only difference this weekend he was on the receiving end Whistling
Like the time Tommy took out Herlings last year in Loket.
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7/15/2013 12:59pm
DeDyker needs a fucking slap too... unprofessional with JVH , but its understandable... JVH and Tommy , along with Paulin are making a nuisance of themselves , and they have youth and speed on their side ... DeDyker was on the way out till he suddenly ended up at factory KTM in place of Nagl.. he's had that may bites of the cherry, he's been sucking the stone for 18 months (amongst other things lol).. its a good job that Pourcel, Musquin, and Roczen all decided to go the the USA else he'd be tugging round on a Marchetti KTM .

Desalle is in the same boat, i dont see either of them getting closer to AC, who is riding injured at the minute anyway, getting beat by Stribos who shops at the same cherry shop as DeDyker, hasnt helped... they are good fast riders but you can see that they dont like the new breed coming through.

As for Searle, he hasnt impressed me on a 450 since the Nations in 2011, until the last 3 or 4 Gp's where he suddenly looks like the real deal, which i think is more down to good management , needing to stay in one piece is paramount, and as we have seen with Frossard, its as easy to be the next has been , as it is the next big thing.
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7/15/2013 2:27pm
mmcmx wrote:
Yeah, I've been loosing respect for De Dyker too. Being an agressive rider is one thing and taking out "newbies" while letting Tony bie.. Remind me...
Yeah, I've been loosing respect for De Dyker too. Being an agressive rider is one thing and taking out "newbies" while letting Tony bie.. Remind me of school bullies
Yup ! It's such a shame as well as it makes you dislike racers that you want to like, it's not like the days gone by...
Yup !

It's such a shame as well as it makes you dislike racers that you want to like, it's not like the days gone by where DP19 and others were constantly taking each other out and playing rough - that was a given and almost accepted by all involved as they all seemed to take part and it was tit for tat - but lately it's beyond a joke and especially when it's really not warranted, sometimes i wish there was somebody pulling them up for it and actually docking them points to reign it in a bit, for instance did you see some of the shit Dedycker pulled with JVH earlier this year? He was blatantly just stopping mid corner and watching his line in order to fuck him up, it's like - hey he is new, younger, weaker - get the little bastard, who does he thiink he is racing competitively in the big class.

Grow up and race FFS

They can all get their own back IMO - I expect Paulin is dying to give AC a little taste, he has really surprised me with how refrained he has been, fair play to him for concentrating on the racing.
I really like Paulin for being such a clean rider but man, I wish he would pay Tony back. AC has mastered an unique tecnique of taking peoples front wheel out "unintentionally" that is starting to piss me off.
7/15/2013 2:50pm
I've said it before today on FB the only reason why Desalle did not went down with the Cairoli battle is because Desalle knows when he's in a lost position and is smart enough to step on his rear brake.
Searle however saw Desalle coming from halfway true the turn he should have known he was in a lost position at that time if he would step 2 sec on his rear brake he would pick up right behind him, but no he wants to stay in it like a boss and got taken out like a boss, the only person to blame here is Searle himself for being a dumb ass
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7/15/2013 3:05pm
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I've said it before today on FB the only reason why Desalle did not went down with the Cairoli battle is because Desalle knows when he's...
I've said it before today on FB the only reason why Desalle did not went down with the Cairoli battle is because Desalle knows when he's in a lost position and is smart enough to step on his rear brake.
Searle however saw Desalle coming from halfway true the turn he should have known he was in a lost position at that time if he would step 2 sec on his rear brake he would pick up right behind him, but no he wants to stay in it like a boss and got taken out like a boss, the only person to blame here is Searle himself for being a dumb ass
I don't think Searle was expecting Desalle to run into him numerous times from an inside line. And the fact Searle came from several places behind showed he had a lot more speed than Desalle.

Of course you're going to support your country man. Looking forward to #100 passing #25 in the next gp.
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7/15/2013 3:30pm
Moens_Andy wrote:
I've said it before today on FB the only reason why Desalle did not went down with the Cairoli battle is because Desalle knows when he's...
I've said it before today on FB the only reason why Desalle did not went down with the Cairoli battle is because Desalle knows when he's in a lost position and is smart enough to step on his rear brake.
Searle however saw Desalle coming from halfway true the turn he should have known he was in a lost position at that time if he would step 2 sec on his rear brake he would pick up right behind him, but no he wants to stay in it like a boss and got taken out like a boss, the only person to blame here is Searle himself for being a dumb ass
Not too much patriotism in your statement.....
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7/15/2013 3:31pm Edited Date/Time 7/15/2013 3:57pm
mmcmx wrote:
I really like Paulin for being such a clean rider but man, I wish he would pay Tony back. AC has mastered an unique tecnique of...
I really like Paulin for being such a clean rider but man, I wish he would pay Tony back. AC has mastered an unique tecnique of taking peoples front wheel out "unintentionally" that is starting to piss me off.
Funny, exactly my point on Cairoli. We are having a discussion about that on our french board which led me to do this, lol...

7/15/2013 9:27pm
Moens_Andy wrote:
I've said it before today on FB the only reason why Desalle did not went down with the Cairoli battle is because Desalle knows when he's...
I've said it before today on FB the only reason why Desalle did not went down with the Cairoli battle is because Desalle knows when he's in a lost position and is smart enough to step on his rear brake.
Searle however saw Desalle coming from halfway true the turn he should have known he was in a lost position at that time if he would step 2 sec on his rear brake he would pick up right behind him, but no he wants to stay in it like a boss and got taken out like a boss, the only person to blame here is Searle himself for being a dumb ass
Yes it was clearly all Searle's fault for which was obviously reflected in the FIM's decision to sanction him with a written warning.

Err, hold on...
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7/15/2013 11:09pm
Searle was flying! Too bad it turns out Desalle is a douche. Go Tommy!
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7/15/2013 11:50pm
Don't forget Desalle, Searle and JVH is the same age and only one year older than Paulin. Desalle is not done. The second take out was kind of dirty but it's not like anyone has ever done that before (even Searle). Searle jumping over the flagger in Sweden is way more stupid, just saying.
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7/16/2013 12:11am
Searle dishing it:

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7/16/2013 12:12am
Searle on the recieving end:

7/16/2013 12:19am
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Don't forget Desalle, Searle and JVH is the same age and only one year older than Paulin. Desalle is not done. The second take out was...
Don't forget Desalle, Searle and JVH is the same age and only one year older than Paulin. Desalle is not done. The second take out was kind of dirty but it's not like anyone has ever done that before (even Searle). Searle jumping over the flagger in Sweden is way more stupid, just saying.
That it is not like anyone has ever done it before is an inadequate argument.

And you're forgetting that DeSalle also jumped the yellow flag.

Remember? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVJWeXijdzM
7/16/2013 4:34am Edited Date/Time 7/16/2013 4:36am
Robgvx wrote:
Searle dishing it:

incomparable Rob - nothing to do with Desalle for a start and yes we all know they can all play dirty, very different season regards the racing and it had been 2 way if i remember right? My point as above - when it's asked for they can all deliver it but leave it alone when it's not.

i am not here saying 100 is a saint by no means, i am saying it was B.S and simply not called for.
7/16/2013 4:38am
mmcmx wrote:
I really like Paulin for being such a clean rider but man, I wish he would pay Tony back. AC has mastered an unique tecnique of...
I really like Paulin for being such a clean rider but man, I wish he would pay Tony back. AC has mastered an unique tecnique of taking peoples front wheel out "unintentionally" that is starting to piss me off.
yes i am glad we are not alone on that one.
7/16/2013 7:31am
Moens_Andy wrote:
I've said it before today on FB the only reason why Desalle did not went down with the Cairoli battle is because Desalle knows when he's...
I've said it before today on FB the only reason why Desalle did not went down with the Cairoli battle is because Desalle knows when he's in a lost position and is smart enough to step on his rear brake.
Searle however saw Desalle coming from halfway true the turn he should have known he was in a lost position at that time if he would step 2 sec on his rear brake he would pick up right behind him, but no he wants to stay in it like a boss and got taken out like a boss, the only person to blame here is Searle himself for being a dumb ass
M-M wrote:
I don't think Searle was expecting Desalle to run into him numerous times from an inside line. And the fact Searle came from several places behind...
I don't think Searle was expecting Desalle to run into him numerous times from an inside line. And the fact Searle came from several places behind showed he had a lot more speed than Desalle.

Of course you're going to support your country man. Looking forward to #100 passing #25 in the next gp.
Don't get me wrong but i do not like Desalle actually.

Yes Tommy was faster a few laps earlier. But he lost speed after he passed him and Desalle was able to return to him after a couple of laps.

And i will also state that it may not have been the cleanest pass but in my opinion it was not that dirty at all its not like he T-boned him just a nice shoulder to shoulder battle , whats that saying again ? Rubbing is racing Wink

FYI blokpasses always come from inside so, not expecting him is one thing not seeing him is another if you see the reflexes Paulin had to his rodeo take of side saddle lander i assume Tommy has experience enough to realise that he just had to tap his rear brake

Also i would like to say that the sanctions that youthstream puts out r only because there was a bunch of bitching about it, if there where handshaking afterwords there was no way there would be a sanctioning
7/16/2013 7:59am
Andy just watch this video please pal - Desalle actually looks @ where Searle is placed and points straight at him - if you see that as not blatant and not dirty then something is wrong. And crash 2 is just as blatant. Filthy riding - looking forward to him being served, actually no, getting beaten fair and square just to rub salt in the wounds a bit more.

It is what it is - that is not rubbin' and it's not racin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWEsG2IzzU0
7/16/2013 8:24am
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Don't get me wrong but i do not like Desalle actually. Yes Tommy was faster a few laps earlier. But he lost speed after he passed...
Don't get me wrong but i do not like Desalle actually.

Yes Tommy was faster a few laps earlier. But he lost speed after he passed him and Desalle was able to return to him after a couple of laps.

And i will also state that it may not have been the cleanest pass but in my opinion it was not that dirty at all its not like he T-boned him just a nice shoulder to shoulder battle , whats that saying again ? Rubbing is racing Wink

FYI blokpasses always come from inside so, not expecting him is one thing not seeing him is another if you see the reflexes Paulin had to his rodeo take of side saddle lander i assume Tommy has experience enough to realise that he just had to tap his rear brake

Also i would like to say that the sanctions that youthstream puts out r only because there was a bunch of bitching about it, if there where handshaking afterwords there was no way there would be a sanctioning
Who sanctioned DeSalle? Youthstream you say?

I've got my head in my hands.

It is the FIM who sanction riders and whom, contrary to what you claim, ''acted on their own accord with the actions of 25 as CLS did NOT officially lodge a protest''.
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7/16/2013 8:55am Edited Date/Time 7/16/2013 10:17am
Andy just watch this video please pal - Desalle actually looks @ where Searle is placed and points straight at him - if you see that...
Andy just watch this video please pal - Desalle actually looks @ where Searle is placed and points straight at him - if you see that as not blatant and not dirty then something is wrong. And crash 2 is just as blatant. Filthy riding - looking forward to him being served, actually no, getting beaten fair and square just to rub salt in the wounds a bit more.

It is what it is - that is not rubbin' and it's not racin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWEsG2IzzU0
after watching that, it was definitely dirty riding by Desalle. way to be a dick, Clement

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