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There are so many "signature" obstacles at Glen Helen, that's why everyone(peeps here including myself) can't stand that it's not on the circuit anymore.
Someone please unfuck this situation. :::::: THIS... more likely THIS X 1,000,000... dollars
Again, why don't you guys that like riding hills so much simple watch hill climb?
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There are plenty of people decrying the Utah and Elsinore tracks as man-made supercross tracks masquerading as motocross, and then rant for Davey to give Bud whatever Bud wants to get Glen Helen back on the schedule. But these features aren't any less man made and/or supercrossy:
What gets it a pass? This:
Do I have a problem with that? Only the hypocrisy, which was Jay's point. I love the track. I know some riders don't, but I am a fan. The surrounding area is the anus of California, but I have 40 years of trudging to places to see races so as a fan with a legacy I don't pay attention to that.
Bud can demand whatever terms he wants for right to use Glen Helen. It's a viable enterprise without the national and I am sure his businesses independent of the industry leave him flush (although apparently not flush enough to pay the Asterisk rig after contracting them to cover the medical requirements for the GP). He's got the leverage of not being need and having a rabid band of supporters, including a mouthpiece in MXA, who think he's entitled to have a national and Davey's screwing him out of it. It's not Davey's job to give Bud everything he wants, if even Davey could. And that's even without considering the legacy of difficulty working with Bud and his people over the years. That's what this is about. It's not about Elsinore or Pala or Miller or whether Glen Helen is an epic track. Its not about man made tracks or dangerous supercross features or natural motocross or old school values. It's about none of that.
The problem is locating feasible sites, with or without hills.
Those claiming to want diversity really want every track to be like Glen Helen. That's not diversity.
I for one would live to see Glen Helen on the circuit, but I also enjoy knowing we have tracks that are flat, and would like a hard packed track as well. The series champ should be able to race everything, and not just a perfectly groomed track with hills.
Let's cut the crap that motocross must be on a hill track, because for many of us motocross started in the "backyard" on a flat hard packed, course that was man made with old tires to indicate turns.
FTE is my Peeps!
Yup.
I, for one, think the Diggers need to go there Every-Other-Year.
But, that's just me.
The underlying reason they bother me is time is taken to install and remove something that is a virtually no use and doesn't do a damn thing safety wise while no attention is given to protecting the wooden stakes. Next race you are out check out the stakes where they have been cut. They in too many cases are not a smooth cut and the one that went inside Kyle Regal's body was serrated and Kyle's puncture reflected this.
In regards to your question the answer is no. I'm focused on what can be done to improve safety and spending time on an activity that has nothing to do with safety while a safety related issue like unprotected wooden stakes languishes blows my mind. Someone else can tackle the issue of fences outside track banners if that's important to them.
Just say no to yellow stakes. Seriously.
Still, those are some awesome shots. Great era of motocross right there.
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Give me a flat field with some piles of dirt on it any day!
Once upon a time, four strokes ruled the roost and nobody thought two strokes would ever be worth a shit.
Then, there was a time that two strokes ruled the roost and nobody every thought four strokes would be worth a shit.
Now, we've come full-circle and I don't doubt that we will go back to the way things were during the 70s-90s, when two strokes were at the top of the totem pole. We will see but for now, I absolutely LOVE riding 450s.
I totally disagree with ripping a virgin grass track before racing it. There were plenty of lines on the track, in part because it was wide in most places. You'd definitely have to do a lot of prep and put a lot of water down to get it in proper shape to run a race there in May, though. That said, the place begs to have a big event there, even if much of the original track area has been lost to the improvements to the road course.
2. Go look at the pictures of Sears Point, above (Lackey on the 32 Honda)...you'd have a BLAST on that track on your new $8000 Moto-Scoot...NATURAL Jumps...even Doubles..."Step-up from G-Out" features provided by Mother-Nature.
3. 2 Strokes are back and the Two-Stroke-Team is taking a stab at the Nationals.
4. I have a Dirt-Bike that I ride to the track. It has a light...a light WITH a Number-plate.
5. Sounds like we've got plenty of "pissed off some bitch" types 'roun'h'yar!
Seriously, truly appreciate those pics, form that race...on that day.
Didn't Harley show up at the '77 race with their 250's running out of a Semi...and they BROKE the frame during the race...do I have that right?
Again, thanks.
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