no doubt in my mind, James is done...

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Edited Date/Time 6/23/2013 12:47pm
Done FUCKING AROUND. I hope he makes it a 4 way race dammit.
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6/22/2013 9:54am
Dammit!!!!
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6/22/2013 10:19am
Fuck yeah!!

Pour it on James Bubba fucking Stewart... (well it is a Booby M post)
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Same ol James....... Was hoping he'd run with the Ryan's today
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6/22/2013 10:22am
And he goes down. Damn, he was charging.

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6/22/2013 10:36am
done what?

Will be a sad day when he leaves the sport, but as a fan, it is kind of sad to watch a superstar struggle.

Short shelf life on the top of the pyramid in this sport fer sure. 7 years max?

Funny how people shit on SX only racers (except The King), but financially it may be smarter.
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I think he eventually he will come around. I think he is still adjusting to being in it for the long run instead of wreckers or checkers. James still holds one of those trump cards that very few have and money can't buy.........RAW SPEED.

He can still blow by some of the best in the world like they are tied to a tree. I hope he can figure out the mental side.
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6/22/2013 12:51pm
Bubba was back for practice anyway. Sideways

Its a bummer to see him and Chad struggling so bad.
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The crashing stopped at the same time the RAW SPEED stopped! Not the bike brand switching as his fans speculated. It's nothing new, every top pro goes through this at the end of their careers, KDUB being the most recent.

Well, I say everyone... that is everyone except RC, he went out on TOP like a BOSS! Jame hasn't been BOSS since half a decade ago.

It's just the reality of the situation.
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6/22/2013 1:01pm
dantheman wrote:
The crashing stopped at the same time the RAW SPEED stopped! Not the bike brand switching as his fans speculated. It's nothing new, every top pro...
The crashing stopped at the same time the RAW SPEED stopped! Not the bike brand switching as his fans speculated. It's nothing new, every top pro goes through this at the end of their careers, KDUB being the most recent.

Well, I say everyone... that is everyone except RC, he went out on TOP like a BOSS! Jame hasn't been BOSS since half a decade ago.

It's just the reality of the situation.
U R so kewl
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6/22/2013 1:10pm
gsxrcr28 wrote:
Bubba was back for practice anyway. Sideways

Its a bummer to see him and Chad struggling so bad.
I dont think James has anything to be ashamed about. He's ridning with a torn acl, and still is the 3rd fastest guy on the track. Yes he makes mistakes, thats what cost him this weekend, but in speed he's just fine.

Chad however, either very very sick for months (highly doubt it) or just not having it anymore. Hes a top 15 guy now without crashes. James at least crashes twice to get there.
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6/22/2013 2:06pm Edited Date/Time 6/22/2013 2:08pm
Lamecake wrote:
I dont think James has anything to be ashamed about. He's ridning with a torn acl, and still is the 3rd fastest guy on the track...
I dont think James has anything to be ashamed about. He's ridning with a torn acl, and still is the 3rd fastest guy on the track. Yes he makes mistakes, thats what cost him this weekend, but in speed he's just fine.

Chad however, either very very sick for months (highly doubt it) or just not having it anymore. Hes a top 15 guy now without crashes. James at least crashes twice to get there.
Did you notice him get up from his crash? Looks like he got up and his knee gave out and he fell down. I hope he's done fucking around and gets it fixed.
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dantheman wrote:
The crashing stopped at the same time the RAW SPEED stopped! Not the bike brand switching as his fans speculated. It's nothing new, every top pro...
The crashing stopped at the same time the RAW SPEED stopped! Not the bike brand switching as his fans speculated. It's nothing new, every top pro goes through this at the end of their careers, KDUB being the most recent.

Well, I say everyone... that is everyone except RC, he went out on TOP like a BOSS! Jame hasn't been BOSS since half a decade ago.

It's just the reality of the situation.
What the fuck do you know about "top pro" anything? Lets hear yer background on this subject and what top pros go thru.
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6/22/2013 2:37pm
I disagree. James isn't done. He's lasted longer this season than any in the past 3 or so years. I thought he may have been done too after SX, but I think he will smooth out.
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younger brother spanked him today
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BobbyM wrote:
What the fuck do you know about "top pro" anything? Lets hear yer background on this subject and what top pros go thru.
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How did he finish up today? Anymore brilliant preDICKtion's Nostradumbass Wink
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6/22/2013 3:11pm
Can't imagine the guy's frustration- same guy who's gone 24-0 and gave Ricky fucking Carmichael fits.
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BobbyM wrote:
What the fuck do you know about "top pro" anything? Lets hear yer background on this subject and what top pros go thru.
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dantheman wrote:
How did he finish up today? Anymore brilliant preDICKtion's Nostradumbass Wink
You didn't answer his question.
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The question needs no answer, and has the same relevance as asking Aldon Baker what the fuck he knows about training "top pro" motocrossers and yet...
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dantheman wrote:
The question needs no answer, and has the same relevance as asking Aldon Baker what the fuck he knows about training "top pro" motocrossers and yet...
Big difference. Baker has trained national champions.
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6/22/2013 4:18pm Edited Date/Time 6/22/2013 4:19pm
dantheman wrote:
The question needs no answer, and has the same relevance as asking Aldon Baker what the fuck he knows about training "top pro" motocrossers and yet...
gsxrcr28 wrote:
Big difference. Baker has trained national champions.
But what was his background... before!

If you wanna follow the line of reasoning for the "question", which it wasn't a question at all, well... we might as well shut the forum down as I'm pretty sure 95% of most here who post have ZERO experience or background with "top pro" anything Wink

Since you're all about questions and answers... answer this: Name one "top pro" who won a title, who could win with any regularity, in their 12'th year as Pro? Or 9'th year on the big bikes?

Especially considering there are two current badasses named Ryan, both healthy and fit.

After Ricky won his first Supercross title MC said the very next year he was more prepared and felt better than ever, and was ready to be crowned again... only, to go on and never win another race.

Reality, some can see it and some... can't.
6/22/2013 4:18pm
He showed no drive in moto 1. Moto 2 he showed promise, did charge after first fall, then after he fell right in front of me at the bottom of the big downhill and couldn't get the bike started right away you could sense the dejection. Kind of surreal seeing him chase Malcom around and the "Stewart" brothers racing together and the younger getting the better of the deal.
Concur, don't see him at the Nat's next year. Supercross??? Good investment Suzuki........
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Not that I agree with danthemans comment I do take umbrage at bobbys retort.

It like asking a pro football coach what the fuck does he know.... He was never a pro player.

Its called observation. I have never been a pro football quarterback but I can watch the games and see which ones are better than others. I can observe their decision making. I can observe their accuracy when passing, ect...

These remarks about "well you were never a pro, you have never ridden a bike at that speed", ect... They ring hollow to me. As an example..... No, I have never ridden a bike like JS and I have never competed in a pro supercross but I can make the logical conclusion through observation that James didn't win as many titles as he could have because he wouldn't back it down when he had a 15 second lead. He wouldn't settle for second like RV did today. The old James would have gone balls to the wall to try and catch RV even though it was unlikely and not a prudent course of action when in search of a title.
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smeg wrote:
Not that I agree with danthemans comment I do take umbrage at bobbys retort. It like asking a pro football coach what the fuck does he...
Not that I agree with danthemans comment I do take umbrage at bobbys retort.

It like asking a pro football coach what the fuck does he know.... He was never a pro player.

Its called observation. I have never been a pro football quarterback but I can watch the games and see which ones are better than others. I can observe their decision making. I can observe their accuracy when passing, ect...

These remarks about "well you were never a pro, you have never ridden a bike at that speed", ect... They ring hollow to me. As an example..... No, I have never ridden a bike like JS and I have never competed in a pro supercross but I can make the logical conclusion through observation that James didn't win as many titles as he could have because he wouldn't back it down when he had a 15 second lead. He wouldn't settle for second like RV did today. The old James would have gone balls to the wall to try and catch RV even though it was unlikely and not a prudent course of action when in search of a title.
"He wouldn't settle for second like RV did today. The old James would have gone balls to the wall to try and catch RV even though it was unlikely and not a prudent course of action when in search of a title."

I had the exact same thought today. It still is pretty mind blowing how much James Stewart hated losing. I think the differences can be attributed to the different life development each took as a racer: one living in the second place shadow of a fellow amateur, and the other rarely ever experiencing what it was like to be beaten.
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dantheman wrote:
The question needs no answer, and has the same relevance as asking Aldon Baker what the fuck he knows about training "top pro" motocrossers and yet...
gsxrcr28 wrote:
Big difference. Baker has trained national champions.
dantheman wrote:
But what was his background... before! If you wanna follow the line of reasoning for the "question", which it wasn't a question at all, well... we...
But what was his background... before!

If you wanna follow the line of reasoning for the "question", which it wasn't a question at all, well... we might as well shut the forum down as I'm pretty sure 95% of most here who post have ZERO experience or background with "top pro" anything Wink

Since you're all about questions and answers... answer this: Name one "top pro" who won a title, who could win with any regularity, in their 12'th year as Pro? Or 9'th year on the big bikes?

Especially considering there are two current badasses named Ryan, both healthy and fit.

After Ricky won his first Supercross title MC said the very next year he was more prepared and felt better than ever, and was ready to be crowned again... only, to go on and never win another race.

Reality, some can see it and some... can't.
answer this: Name one "top pro" who won a title, who could win with any regularity, in their 12'th year as Pro? Or 9'th year on the big bikes?

I would say there isn't any.

I agree father time has caught up to Stewart and he is nowhere near the rider he was when he was racing RC. As I said earlier in this thread it is a bummer to see James and Chad (two legends of the sport) struggle so badly towards at the end of their career. It's probably inevitable though.
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I dont believe the torn acl crap..when he crashed over the hump he just climbed up and got on the bike like it aint no thing. IMO the 2 ryans are just fitter and took it to another level of speed. Its kind of sad watching him struggle , i think stewie has one more year and hes done.
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smeg wrote:
Not that I agree with danthemans comment I do take umbrage at bobbys retort. It like asking a pro football coach what the fuck does he...
Not that I agree with danthemans comment I do take umbrage at bobbys retort.

It like asking a pro football coach what the fuck does he know.... He was never a pro player.

Its called observation. I have never been a pro football quarterback but I can watch the games and see which ones are better than others. I can observe their decision making. I can observe their accuracy when passing, ect...

These remarks about "well you were never a pro, you have never ridden a bike at that speed", ect... They ring hollow to me. As an example..... No, I have never ridden a bike like JS and I have never competed in a pro supercross but I can make the logical conclusion through observation that James didn't win as many titles as he could have because he wouldn't back it down when he had a 15 second lead. He wouldn't settle for second like RV did today. The old James would have gone balls to the wall to try and catch RV even though it was unlikely and not a prudent course of action when in search of a title.
Hey now....don't be getting any ideas.
That's my user name! ;-)
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I dont believe the torn acl crap..when he crashed over the hump he just climbed up and got on the bike like it aint no thing...
I dont believe the torn acl crap..when he crashed over the hump he just climbed up and got on the bike like it aint no thing. IMO the 2 ryans are just fitter and took it to another level of speed. Its kind of sad watching him struggle , i think stewie has one more year and hes done.
I say James & his dad should use there name/exp/rep in this ind & start there own team.
And while they're at it, sign Malcolm. Remember, big James said, "Malcolm's got more natural talent than James."
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6/22/2013 6:17pm
Agree DONE.

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