Elbows up !

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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 1:21pm
I was looking at the 'Community' section just now and saw a cool picture and got me to thinking about riding style. When you have an elbows up riding style from years in MX, but now race the woods, it can come back to bite you and bite you bad. Ive almost shattered my elbows several times racing scrambles hitting trees while going full tilt in tight stuff. After the last one that nearly took me off the bike I now use elbow pads.




This pic kicks ass and shows exactly what I mean:



Nice form StupidnSlow !

Any you other offroad guys use elbow pads too?
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Slow ~ Pro 8/15/2008 6:49am
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Dress for the crash my man...Elbow protection just seems like the right thing to wear.

Don't suppose they'd pad the trees for ya' !
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I never ride without them now . Due to riding with out them in my younger years and a few other mishaps my elbows are all scar tissue. It hurts to set them on the table .
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Larry 8/15/2008 6:58am
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Good point 92. I have yet to bash an elbow but my shoulders have taken some hits.
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huck 8/15/2008 6:59am
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Some people will say that your camel back is a form of cheating...


I say...what is that curly silver thing coming out of the front of your motor?

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When I used to do hare scrambles I rode a lot with some AA woods guys and I basically rode MX through the woods... Wide open, elbows up, foot out, They got me into more of the woods mode and I stopped crashing so much and started going faster. If I am in the woods my feet are on the pegs, I saw a guy stick his foot out around a turn and hit a stump under some leaves, turned his leg around so it was facing me.. Totally different style in the woods than the track and it's that way for a reason.
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Racer92 8/15/2008 7:05am
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huck wrote:
Some people will say that your camel back is a form of cheating... I say...what is that curly silver thing coming out of the front of...
Some people will say that your camel back is a form of cheating...


I say...what is that curly silver thing coming out of the front of your motor?

Its not cheating when the camelbak is fulla Sangria ! Wink

Curly thing? Im doing my part to kill mosquitos, one tankful at a time.
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Nothing like a good ol Swellbow.
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My son always wears elbow pads. At least he did until he lost one. I forgot to get a new pair before his last practice outing and of course he crashed and skinned his elbow up pretty bad. Now that his football team is in pads and hitting, he has had the scab peeled back on it twice.
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Moto East Mag 8/15/2008 10:25am
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I had some elbow pads but I gave them to my girlfriend to use as kneepads, because she's so tiny.




















Wait...that's not what I meant! It's a true story damnit. You guys are in the gutter!
(just pre-empting the obvious responses)
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What are trees?
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Laughing
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Moto East Mag wrote:
I had some elbow pads but I gave them to my girlfriend to use as kneepads, because she's so tiny. Wait...that's not what I meant! It's...
I had some elbow pads but I gave them to my girlfriend to use as kneepads, because she's so tiny.




















Wait...that's not what I meant! It's a true story damnit. You guys are in the gutter!
(just pre-empting the obvious responses)
Funny and you were spot on about the gutter thing.
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sean 8/15/2008 12:25pm
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More importantly would be that the knee's are tight aginst the tank at all times, unlike the rider in the first pic. Smile
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When I trail ride these days especially in ROCK-INFESTED Arizona I wear elbow guards and already have tested them out a few times. Result=they WORK!!!!!!!

Moto I don't for fear of arm pump.
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Racer92 8/15/2008 1:15pm
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sean wrote:
More importantly would be that the knee's are tight aginst the tank at all times, unlike the rider in the first pic. Smile
You race scrambles too? Spent years & years racing woods? Show us your style and we can learn how its done!
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sean 8/15/2008 2:11pm
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sean wrote:
More importantly would be that the knee's are tight aginst the tank at all times, unlike the rider in the first pic. Smile
Racer92 wrote:
You race scrambles too? Spent years & years racing woods? Show us your style and we can learn how its done!
Geez! Take it easy man can't you take a little frendly critisizism?







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Racer92 8/15/2008 2:19pm
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sean wrote:
Geez! Take it easy man can't you take a little frendly critisizism?







Just wanted to see how you get it done since you have an eye for riding style! Ive ridden/raced scrambles for over 8 years and havent dinked a knee yet.

Shoulders & elbows however...... Pinch
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KAWboy14 8/15/2008 2:50pm
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i think teggers and DV12 have the elbows down go fast deal figured out!

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rockcrawlerdude 8/15/2008 10:51pm
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i know ill probably catch some crap for this but what advantage does elbow up have over elboys down? ( i know when i get tired my elbows are always down)??
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kopfjaeger 8/16/2008 10:21pm
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I used to drop my elbows all the time...one day I came back bitchin about a new section of a track and not being able to turn...old guy in camp said pick your elbows up.....paid attention next tiem out and realized that everytime I got tense in a section i would drop my elbow and not be able to turn for crap!!!////....Elbows up, but watch the trees, I ditche dthe elbow guards too, they kept sliding up when I went down!!!

92, I think he meant YOU SHOULD BE STANDING AND GRIPPING WITH YO KNEES, NOT YO ARMS!!!!! another little gem that took my buds a while to get drummed into my craniuim!!!!
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Erik727 8/16/2008 10:35pm
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Yup,,riding Scrambles and woods,,,much different style than moto........The leg thing don't work that good going fast in the trees,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how do i know,,broke right tib'fib four times....bone destroyed,,had rt leg amputated below the knee on 6/5 /08,,i will ride again,,,i'm just on a break right now.......Woodsguys....keep your feet on the pegs as much as you can !!!
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kopfjaeger 8/16/2008 10:45pm
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Erik727 wrote:
Yup,,riding Scrambles and woods,,,much different style than moto........The leg thing don't work that good going fast in the trees,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how do i know,,broke right tib'fib four times....bone...
Yup,,riding Scrambles and woods,,,much different style than moto........The leg thing don't work that good going fast in the trees,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how do i know,,broke right tib'fib four times....bone destroyed,,had rt leg amputated below the knee on 6/5 /08,,i will ride again,,,i'm just on a break right now.......Woodsguys....keep your feet on the pegs as much as you can !!!
Damn!!!...hate to hear that. Wishing you a speedy return to the bike.
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Erik727 8/16/2008 10:57pm
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Thanks,,,i get my new leg in about 10 more days,,,,,,first goal accomplished !!!!!

I'll be back !!!! .......................BBRRRAAAAAAPPPPP !!!
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"92, I think he meant YOU SHOULD BE STANDING AND GRIPPING WITH YO KNEES, NOT YO ARMS!!!!! another little gem that took my buds a while to get drummed into my craniuim!!!!"

Lets see, Ive been riding dirtbikes for well over 35 years, you'd think I could get your wisdom drummed into my cranium. I guess Im not too bright.

Its like this: when your almost 45 years old and running long scrambles, (not some easy 4-5 lap moto) you take your breaks when you can. That pic is in a long open field right before the chicane and check point well over an hour into the race,, so sure, Im on my ass in that section. You guys with this sage advice wanna show me your skills, cmon down to Tejas and show me how its done. I will load the RM and ride with anyone on the trails.
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wpcjs 8/17/2008 8:37am
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I use elbow / forearm pads, and I can't tell you how many times I have smacked them in the trees. Being a fairly big guy ( 6'2 240 ) I am not the most agile guy, my buddies give me shit about going through the tree's instead of around them.
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kopfjaeger 8/18/2008 7:59am
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Damn, dont be touchy...just jackin with you.....I am in Texas (Panther City = Ft. Worth)...I race XCountry in North Texas, pretty much suck at MX (fear of flying)....If I ever get down there with a bike I will look you up!
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Racer92 8/18/2008 8:19am
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kopfjaeger wrote:
Damn, dont be touchy...just jackin with you.....I am in Texas (Panther City = Ft. Worth)...I race XCountry in North Texas, pretty much suck at MX (fear...
Damn, dont be touchy...just jackin with you.....I am in Texas (Panther City = Ft. Worth)...I race XCountry in North Texas, pretty much suck at MX (fear of flying)....If I ever get down there with a bike I will look you up!
Not touchy at all, just good at fishing. Suckah ! Wink

Cmon down and race a TORCs race with me, I know you TCCRA guys are pretty quick!
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What class do you race in TORCS, Racer92?
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Racer92 8/18/2008 9:09am
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What class do you race in TORCS, Racer92?
Gonna be in the Open-B when it cools down and we start back.

I had hurt my knee riding moto at CCMX (meniscus/MCL) and quit riding for 2 years. I had major atrophy on my right leg after limping for a year and then finally the surgery. Sam (Whnuckle) was generous as hell and gave me his Asterisk braces, so I met another Motodriver at CCMX one day to see how the leg would work. He had to kickstart my bike for me,, my right leg had that little of strength. Anywho, I had heard about the TORCs thing and my knee was finally feeling better so signed up. I had no idea how fast their classes were/werent and not knowing if the knee was gonna handle the stress post-op I lined up in Open-C to see where I was. As my luck would have it, I was coming down with flu the first race, but lined up anyway and did a 5th outta 25. Missed 4th by 30 seconds or so, and that was sick and straight off the couch. I compared my times with my riding buddies in Open-B and thats were I need to be once it cools down and we hit some more races. I run woods in practice with lots of friends who run Open-A, Im just not fit enough to hold that pace very long. Its just not as easy at 45 to keep the fitness thing peaked.

You run TORCs, too?
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SPYGUY wrote:
What class do you race in TORCS, Racer92?
Racer92 wrote:
Gonna be in the Open-B when it cools down and we start back. I had hurt my knee riding moto at CCMX (meniscus/MCL) and quit riding...
Gonna be in the Open-B when it cools down and we start back.

I had hurt my knee riding moto at CCMX (meniscus/MCL) and quit riding for 2 years. I had major atrophy on my right leg after limping for a year and then finally the surgery. Sam (Whnuckle) was generous as hell and gave me his Asterisk braces, so I met another Motodriver at CCMX one day to see how the leg would work. He had to kickstart my bike for me,, my right leg had that little of strength. Anywho, I had heard about the TORCs thing and my knee was finally feeling better so signed up. I had no idea how fast their classes were/werent and not knowing if the knee was gonna handle the stress post-op I lined up in Open-C to see where I was. As my luck would have it, I was coming down with flu the first race, but lined up anyway and did a 5th outta 25. Missed 4th by 30 seconds or so, and that was sick and straight off the couch. I compared my times with my riding buddies in Open-B and thats were I need to be once it cools down and we hit some more races. I run woods in practice with lots of friends who run Open-A, Im just not fit enough to hold that pace very long. Its just not as easy at 45 to keep the fitness thing peaked.

You run TORCs, too?
I run TORCS in 450B and recommend that class unless you're racing with some buddies in Open. There's usually only 7-10 guys in 450B and Open B has 20 or more at some races. This year has stunk for me in TORCS but I still love the races so if you make it down to the Sept 13 race, come say hello. I'm on a Honda, #314.

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