Watching JS Go Pro following RV, I don't know if RC wouldn't have his hands full

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KlootZak 5/23/2013 10:34am
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RV vs RC Woohoo I'm pretty sure RV could beat RC a couple of times but to steal that championship from RC ... Dry
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had2comment 5/23/2013 10:36am
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I think some Prime PED's runs the show. Only speculation.
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SEE ARE125 wrote:
This place is hilarious. This thread is about RV vs RC and the fanboys saw the word RV and decided to invite themselves in and make...
This place is hilarious. This thread is about RV vs RC and the fanboys saw the word RV and decided to invite themselves in and make it a JS bashing thread instead. It's like when your just chillin' at home and a buddy asks to come over for a beer and you tell him that's cool. Next thing you know there's 50 people in your house, beer pong on the dining room table, a dude on a jetski in the pool, some girl passed out in a shrub outside, an iguana taking body shots, and your damn mattress is missing. Dafuq?
Stewart fans had their time. Now it`s time for dumbass NOOB`s. As painful as it is that`s the way world works.
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James' helmet cam is incredible. I didn't know RV yarded James that bad and that quick. It's kind of demoralizing to be honest. I KNOW James will get back up there and run RV harder than what we just saw..... But holy cow , RV is a animal no matter if you like the guy or not. That is just strait up ballistic , go for broke riding right there!

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THE_NOOB 5/23/2013 11:19am
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People act as if Stewart at 27 is some kind of Grandpa, Ricky Carmichael was 27 and had to step up his speed and he did it. James Stewart was 24 when the Ryans came onto the scene and started Dominating and he hasn't been able to step up his Game the way Ricky Carmchael did. I think RV has more in the Tank if someone starts to challenge him, he's that fast.
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THE_NOOB wrote:
Well Kawasa84, RV's been beatin up on Stewart for about 3 years now, so Bubba must have gotten out of his Prime early
Ummmm...What has JS done since 2009?....his time has passed and to think that he is RV's main comp or even in the equation is a joke, RV only has to worry about Dungey and vice-versa.
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kawasa84 5/23/2013 11:26am
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THE_NOOB wrote:
People act as if Stewart at 27 is some kind of Grandpa, Ricky Carmichael was 27 and had to step up his speed and he did...
People act as if Stewart at 27 is some kind of Grandpa, Ricky Carmichael was 27 and had to step up his speed and he did it. James Stewart was 24 when the Ryans came onto the scene and started Dominating and he hasn't been able to step up his Game the way Ricky Carmchael did. I think RV has more in the Tank if someone starts to challenge him, he's that fast.
Noobles, and how old was RC when he retired?????????????
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JB 19 5/23/2013 11:30am
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One thing that drives me crazy is the misuse of the word talent. People always say, oh these young kids are soooo talented.

Are they more talented then the last generation, or has the development of their talent been perfected even more. I think a better term would be skilled.

Carmichael VS Villopoto might be the ultimate fantasy cage match. They are almost the same guy on the track. RV is like a sharpened more evolved version of RC. As far as Stewart must be concerned, RC took a couple years off and came back.
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THE_NOOB 5/23/2013 11:37am
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Ricky Carmichael was 27 when he retired, but could have raced competitively for at least another 2 or 3 years if he had anything more to prove, but basically he beat everyone the world threw at him and being a new Father, he decided to hang up the Boots and race Trucks. Ricky Carmcihael at 28 and 29 could still have won championships if he had decided to keep going and was hungry for more titles
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toroP 5/23/2013 11:39am
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THE_NOOB wrote:
People act as if Stewart at 27 is some kind of Grandpa, Ricky Carmichael was 27 and had to step up his speed and he did...
People act as if Stewart at 27 is some kind of Grandpa, Ricky Carmichael was 27 and had to step up his speed and he did it. James Stewart was 24 when the Ryans came onto the scene and started Dominating and he hasn't been able to step up his Game the way Ricky Carmchael did. I think RV has more in the Tank if someone starts to challenge him, he's that fast.
OK, yes, RV is unbeatable ...... if don't count the times he gets beat. Dry


(keep it up, Noob. This place always need s a guy like you. A durable punching bag is valuable. Hang in there, buddy.)
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Nicknku 5/23/2013 11:39am
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had2comment wrote:
I think some Prime PED's runs the show. Only speculation.
We have a winner!
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kawasa84 5/23/2013 11:52am
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I wonder if rv will be competing for titles in 3 years, as you say RC easily could have been doing?
I don't think rv will be in the sport past 3 years from now.
I don't think rv will hold off the coming tide, but when he is 27 and whatever is happening we can take this up again, hows that?
Like I have said, you rv'ers love to still bash on JS7, because thats an easy target, but reality is his real competition will be elbowing him out of the way soon enough, I'll be here, will you?
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kawasa84 5/23/2013 11:57am
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had2comment wrote:
I think some Prime PED's runs the show. Only speculation.
Nicknku wrote:
We have a winner!
Thats funny, now if Stewart would get back on "Aldons" plan he could find the fountain of youth!
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EastFlorida 5/23/2013 11:59am
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Can you imagine a young and in his prime Bob Hannah riding with these guys? Hannah would've been in everyone's head just like he was back then. RC would've been the only guy I believe that wouldn't have let Hannah's antics get to him...

With that said, you can't compare generations to each other.

There are several on here that have never seen a Hannah, Magoo, Johnson, Lechine, Ward, Barnett, etc. ride. If you had, you for sure wouldn't be limiting your discussion to the few in this thread...
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gsxrcr28 5/23/2013 12:04pm
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THE_NOOB wrote:
It's gotta be hard for Bubba to get passed like that and just watch Villopoto pull away with ease. RC was able to step up his...
It's gotta be hard for Bubba to get passed like that and just watch Villopoto pull away with ease. RC was able to step up his game and find another Gear to deal with Bubba, but I don't thing Bubba has another Gear to be able to match that kind of Speed RV has. That's the next evolution in Speed right there, Fastest EVER!!!!Woohoo

There is no doubt RV is the best right now, but to brag about beating a rider with a completely torn ACL is pathetic and sad.
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ocscottie 5/23/2013 12:17pm
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There is no doubt RV is the best right now, but to brag about a rider is pathetic and sad.

Fixed it for you Chip.
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gsxrcr28 5/23/2013 12:24pm
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ocscottie wrote:
There is no doubt RV is the best right now, but to brag about a rider is pathetic and sad.

Fixed it for you Chip.
Laughing So true buddy!
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DonM wrote:
RC had Stewart, Whindam and Reed in their primes who were there week in and week out year after year....RV has Dungey and.... You're obviously fairly...
RC had Stewart, Whindam and Reed in their primes who were there week in and week out year after year....RV has Dungey and....
You're obviously fairly young and wasn't really around when RC was...
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I'm 20 and I've been around MX all my life. And just because I'm young doesn't mean I don't know what I'm saying. I know very...
I'm 20 and I've been around MX all my life. And just because I'm young doesn't mean I don't know what I'm saying. I know very well what RC has accomplished and who was around. And I'm sorry but since when was Windham or Reed ever serious competition for RC? Never. Yeah, a couple overalls here and there, RC is human. RC never faced an equal foe until the Stewart era. And even then it wasn't enough. So once again I say that RC never had the competition RV had.

RV has RD to worry about, JS to worry about, as well as VERY fast rookies that are at the beginning of their 450 careers.
You forget Stefan Everts, Sebastian Tortelli, McGrath, Vullemin, Pastrana, Reed, Windham, Lusk, Stewart( in his prime).

You can't sit back and say RC had no competition, that dude did work all over the globe indoors and out. He didn't lose and it was rare when he did.

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Jabjr222 5/23/2013 12:55pm
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Alright, I will say it, RC had no competition because he was SO MUCH FASTER than everyone else. If he had not been so dominate one would have had a better view of his competition. Those doubting RC never saw him race. RV is fast but if he had RC pressing him, and RC would press him, RV has been known to take a tumble or two. RC would do the same to him that he did to Stewie. Even in supercross this year, when RV was as dominate as ever, if someone pushed him he would bobble. But clearly, RV is the best right now. But my money will always be on RC for any GOAT conversations.
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MXR 5/23/2013 12:58pm
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Adolf Weil and Joel Robert would have gave him a good run .
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Vitarded wrote:
The sport has evolved so quickly since RC's depart. There's no doubt in my mind that RV would handle RC. And i even believe that our...
The sport has evolved so quickly since RC's depart. There's no doubt in my mind that RV would handle RC. And i even believe that our new top 5 (RV, RD, JS, TC, JCool would even give Ricky a lot to handle. A lot of people forget about how fast the sport is changing, and how much the level of competition has elevated. RC will forever be the GOAT, but comparing him to our riders now is impossible, and those questions will never be answered.

I could be wrong with my opinion, but it makes sense to me.
huck wrote:
I'm not sure about your initial assessment... but definitely agree that arguing about different generations of riders is idiotic.
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I could be way off, like I said. But I just can't imagine a 2006 RC beating a 2013 RV straight-up. There's just so many things...
I could be way off, like I said. But I just can't imagine a 2006 RC beating a 2013 RV straight-up. There's just so many things that have changed that would place RV in favour. Bikes (holy crap bikes are good now), fitness (Aldon Baker has progressed his ways ten fold since the RC days), and competition (RC had none lol).

Anyways, that's off topic, but WOW I can't believe the gap RV pulled on JS. I heard it was something like 2.5 seconds on the first lap? That's just another level. Godly.
James was at maybe 85%. Gappin James like RV did wouldn't be a big deal IMHO.
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SEE ARE125 wrote:
This place is hilarious. This thread is about RV vs RC and the fanboys saw the word RV and decided to invite themselves in and make...
This place is hilarious. This thread is about RV vs RC and the fanboys saw the word RV and decided to invite themselves in and make it a JS bashing thread instead. It's like when your just chillin' at home and a buddy asks to come over for a beer and you tell him that's cool. Next thing you know there's 50 people in your house, beer pong on the dining room table, a dude on a jetski in the pool, some girl passed out in a shrub outside, an iguana taking body shots, and your damn mattress is missing. Dafuq?
kongols wrote:
Stewart fans had their time. Now it`s time for dumbass NOOB`s. As painful as it is that`s the way world works.
WUBTDASSNOOBOALT? Yes you have!
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I'll speak with some candor.... Bubba was riding 90% and RV was riding 105%. If any of the Big 5 want to win a race, they will be have to ride a tad out of their comfort zone. This was not Bubba racing a tad out of his comfort zone. What blows my mind about RV: 1. He is the best passer in the game (maybe the history of the sport) 2. He can have statement race at any given time. WIll he dominate like this for 22 more motos? The odds are against him.

If RC was still racing, he would had evolved with the sport. No doubt, RV is the best in world right now. However, is competion is very close to him.
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huck wrote:
I'm not sure about your initial assessment... but definitely agree that arguing about different generations of riders is idiotic.
Vitarded wrote:
I could be way off, like I said. But I just can't imagine a 2006 RC beating a 2013 RV straight-up. There's just so many things...
I could be way off, like I said. But I just can't imagine a 2006 RC beating a 2013 RV straight-up. There's just so many things that have changed that would place RV in favour. Bikes (holy crap bikes are good now), fitness (Aldon Baker has progressed his ways ten fold since the RC days), and competition (RC had none lol).

Anyways, that's off topic, but WOW I can't believe the gap RV pulled on JS. I heard it was something like 2.5 seconds on the first lap? That's just another level. Godly.
BobbyM wrote:
James was at maybe 85%. Gappin James like RV did wouldn't be a big deal IMHO.
Agree 110% with BobM analysis
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what the rest of this season is going to look like in the 450 class

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had2comment wrote:
I think some Prime PED's runs the show. Only speculation.
Nicknku wrote:
We have a winner!
kawasa84 wrote:
Thats funny, now if Stewart would get back on "Aldons" plan he could find the fountain of youth!
I have to agree here.


Don't they test for this tho?
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Nicknku 5/23/2013 2:32pm
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Nicknku wrote:
We have a winner!
kawasa84 wrote:
Thats funny, now if Stewart would get back on "Aldons" plan he could find the fountain of youth!
Myke wrote:
I have to agree here.


Don't they test for this tho?
Only urine tests and EPO can't be detected. A little EPO would go a long ways for stew
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dhp_mma94 5/23/2013 2:37pm
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stewart don't need aldon
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Rocky Marciano was the best that's ever done it.
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RV's wife scares me, and the few times I've seen her my pecker grew a new wrinkle.
I think the man is just scared to lose and face the wrath!

(P.S. Not a personal attack)

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