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On carbs, there's a whole host of categories. Green leafies are no less primarily carb sources than are fruits or grains or tubers or legumes or refined sugars. Maybe the discussion is better served by people advocating no carbs be clear about whether they limit that to starches and refined sugars or extend it to all foods whose primary caloric content is carbohydrate.
The observation about fast food and soda is very apt. If people cut out the "candy" sources of sugars and excessive meals, avoided processed foods, and took the time to prepare fresh foods as often as possible in their schedules, they'd make huge differences in their health without having to get caught up in the cult of any particular diet.
Steve/TFS, I think anyone who knew you back when your body was such a wreck and cared for you was concerned for you and is relieved that you turned that around, and truly happy for you to have achieved those changes. I
Grains and starches have a place but they shouldn't be the majority of the calories that you take in.
That is where this country has by and large (pun intended) has gotten into trouble..."
Yeah, but who defines things like "balance" and "moderation?"
If you take the evolutionary view, the so-called "standard" and "balanced" diet is neither. Too many carbs have been added (a non-essential macronutrient) and too much fat has been removed (an essential macronutrient).
Humans just did not evolve eating grains. They did eat starches, but less than 20% of total calories.
What is balanced then? Zero grains is natural and balanced. Adding them is not balanced. Grains were added to the diet pretty much when agriculture started about 10,000 years ago. Our "systems were mature and developed by then.
I suggest people just try it. It isn't like they're being coaxed into taking some strange drug. Worst thing that can happen is they won't get the results they want, and they'll go back to supplements. However, I've not once seen that happen.
The diet's a pain in the butt, though, I'll admit. Cooking fresh foods all the time isn't easy. But, to me at least, it's well worth it. All I ask is that people be open minded, read a lot on the diet. You'll notice that there are a lot of misconceptions about what we need to consume to provide the proper nutrition for our bodies. Again, just try it and form your own decisions. At minimum, I think you'll find you'll meet your performance goals, and beyond that, you'll discover a level of health you never expected. Best wishes to each and every one of you.
Oh, thanks for the kind words, too. Let us know your progress, and please share what you discover, including any paleo meals you've found to be fantastic (there are a ton out there). Personally, I just added using almond flour to my pantry, and the meals we've been cooking taste fantastic, give us back some of the foods we're familiar with from the old diet, and don't contribute to any negative effects.
Good luck, guys!
Fiber from fruits and veggies.
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Wel after a month i already lost 10kg...i did not excersise at all i just ate fresh food all the time, in small ammounts, 6 meals a day.
After 2weeks i felt the difference already. No more tiredness during the day, no more sore muscles, i was mentally and fysically more 'fresh' then ever before. I finally felt and looked healthy.
It's not only the sugar and grains. It's the additives to. Flavour enhancers, pigment additives, additives to increase shelf life, etc.
Our body has no way to deal with those kinds of things. The best way is to treat food like fuel, you won't put anything in your bike that it can't run. Same deal with the body. Every ingredient that has no use as fuel is a possible hazard to the health. Maybe not directly but it wil be in the long run. It ain't 100% healthy if the gouverment says it's 'safe to consume'.
Just read labels when u go shop and put anything back that says sugar or something containing fructose sirop. Do all lanes and see at the end of the store what u have in your shopping cart. 9/10 things wil be fresh foods. The 'low fat' foods are ironiclly the most unhealthy kinds u can eat. Removing the fat makes it taste less good, to make everything taste better they always add sugar and flavour enhancers. If it says sugarfree it has synthetic sweeteners. Those make it even more unhealthy!
We are being forced to consume more, processing food has to be cheaper then ever but it still has to make us eat it again...or even more.
The best answer to that is processed additives that have no other benefit then make us consume. Cheap unhealthy stuff in our everyday food makes us weak, sick and sore. And the worst part about it is: We don't realize it....
Correction. "some excess protein is converted to glucose (about 58% of amino acids are gluconeogenic) but it hardly has the same impact on your body as ingesting sugar"
I've been toying with the idea of trying Paleo for awhile, I have two problems.
1. Lack of protein for muscle building (competitive power lifter). The Primal Diet seems to address this.
2. Time it takes to prepare everything. I'm short on time and not that creative a cook. I have been following #mealprepmondays on Instgram for ideas.
A few months ago I walked past the pharmacy at the grocery store and it occured to me that I stopped going through there to look for over the counter meds. No more nose spray because I had chronic bronchitis before, no Tylenol, no cough drops, no "Ensure," basically nothing from there. Its a nice change.
As far as "supplements," we may differ on that. I still take a pile but it's stuff my dr picked and we do blood tests a few times a year to monitor progress.
I've seen the reports of people reversing MS, T2 diabetes, and a few other things too.
My dr that figured the mess out had me start with South Beach, and when it got to the part where you can add things, I tried wheat tortillas, felt sick, stopped, and tried again, same thing. I just stopped wheat and that solved the problem.
A couple times since I gave it time and tried again, thinking maybe its BS, but same thing happened. Once it was a single burrito from the place close to work. I didn't read about Paleo until later and it all made sense.
At least I got you wankers to google "Gluconeogenesis" and you learned something!
I don't drink beer. Beer is Neolithic. In fact archeologists have found beer making evidence anywhere they found evidence of grains, so it could be that beer came before bread!
The Egyptians paid pyramid workers with beer.
They just drank beer while they watched the ancient astronauts do the heavy lifting!
If you look at the "20% of total calories" picture then I am right there, which for me is balanced.
I just don't agree that zero is natural and balanced.
Just like you are eating yogurt and cheese, neither of which was around in the Paleo era but they work for you as an individual.
Very interesting subjuct to be sure.
How do you come to grips with the fact that our fruit and veggies are definitely different from paleo times? What I mean is that man has modified the seeds many times over that we use today, so that the fresh foods we eat today are somewhat genetically different.
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1. People who do it to lose weight.
2. People who do it for their health that never struggled with weight.
I'll call the second group "Paleo Robustos." Many of them can't stand the low carb stuff and consider it non-Paleo. In fact some have gone as far as claiming that a low carb diet causes hypothyroidism. This claim has appeared on Paleo blogs quite a bit in the last year, but there is nothing to it. Your thyroid does adjust a bit, but this is because the body is adapting and it goes right back. All the good thyroid drs I know of have people reduce carbs, not increase them.
Paleo Robustos don't talk a lot about "requiring" all those exercise supplements, but they do think that sweet potatos are the shit.
I'm pretty sure that all the people saying "I MUST have this or that to work out" are bonking because their non Paleo diet is a train wreck to start with.
Don't eat crap, buy at a farmers market if you can [gee, the vegetables taste better, what a surprise] and track down some non juiced meat and you'll be about 100% better off. Oh and I hear water is actually good for you too.
"farmers market" doesn't mean squat unless you ask/know about individual growing practices.
Granted there has to be other environmental factors to consider but its pretty scary nonetheless.
Probably a coincidence but the Eskimos, (Inuit) people believed that there was a god that was responsible for some serious constipation.
Remember they ate nothing but fish, very little fiber. That must be rough man..
Large fish like tuna or bottom feeders like shrimp and mussels - shell fish - are high in mercury and other toxins that a human 10,000 years ago wasn't exposed to. As as a result if in creating a Paleo diet regime like you are if you don't put this fact into the mix your immune system will be compromised to the point of not functioning as well as needed to over come the large protein consumption you are exposing it to. You can do a Paleo diet without running a high ph in your system.
Google Colin Campbell - China Study for an interesting look at large data compiled on cancer risk as it is involved with protein intake and an acidic ph running through the human system. Going to bed and living with and acidic ph raises the risk of cancers forming according to this study and others. You can eat a Paleo like diet and maintain a neutral or negative ph if organic raw an lightly steamed vegatables are the largest part of the diet.
If you are eating large amounts of meat at night you are creating an environment ripe for cancerous risk as you are going to bed with a high ph. Going to bed on the other hand with a low ph - vegetables, soups, no fruit after 4 pm, little to no meat at night - very small amounts of turkey or chicken as a broth etc. will create just the opposite environment - a negative ph. Also eating pork often, particularly non organic pork is a mistake for many reasons that you can look up yourself.
Pork no more than once an month. Eggs less than four a week. Scrap the seafood other than north pacific salmon - and not that often and small fish like sardines, trout, talapia, and no fruit after 4 pm as well little to no meat after lunch and your health will get even better. Eat organic food - it is Paleo.
I saw you at races at your heaviest and read your health issues you posted on Moto Talk and here and I didn't really think you would be alive 5 years after some of your posts. Keep refining what you are doing and it will keep getting better and better.
All the best and just my 2 cents. Do with it what you want.
Quick question for you. Your diet and exercise program is built around you wanting to lose weight I take it? If a guy wanted to change it up a bit for a better "Strength and conditioning" type diet.......what would you change? I'm thinking more along the lines of what a competitive motocross racer would do here.
There has to be some changes in the types of food from weight loss to what an Athlete would want...right?
BTW.....I am going to be doing a bunch of reading on your site and a few others....so thanks for the link earlier.
The best sources are Mark Sisson, marksdailyapple.com, which has lots of info for the "Paleo Robustos," and Phinney and Volek's "Art and Science of Low Carb Perfomance." The Phinney and Volek book is intended for exactly what you asked about.
One thing I would avoid even if competing is a lot of heavy cardio training. It's stress you don't need. The people doing cardio while burning carbs are just being stupid because cortisol will go up. Do only enough cardio to get by in moto and stop.
Moto is excellent weight training. It may actually be superior to weight training.
Link for ya about that-
http://dietforhumans.com/2012/08/04/what-makes-motocross-such-good-exer…
Does that mean all the carnivores died out a million years ago if eating meat is so bad? And all we see at the zoo is imitations?
I don't care about ph to be honest because I am interested in CRP instead. Mine is very low risk and it is monitored. I eat bacon every morning and my cholesterol is below min, and everything else is in line too. Eggs less than 4 a week is foolish too. Eggs are one of the most perfect foods.
I don't believe anything from the China Study and you should not either. Google Denise Minger. Not only did she drop a bomb on it, she's a real hottie.
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