jdr shutting down?

motov8tedcre8tor wrote:

Ah, the old trickle-down theory (or tinkle-down depending on your perspective) that failed under Reagan and W Bush. So all the people who voted for that...

Ah, the old trickle-down theory (or tinkle-down depending on your perspective) that failed under Reagan and W Bush. So all the people who voted for that "muslim" Obama, are clueless sheep?

Halfast816 wrote:

The wealthy handle the money the same way everyone else does just better. When they are making less, frivolous expenses are cut out. Say a guy...

The wealthy handle the money the same way everyone else does just better. When they are making less, frivolous expenses are cut out. Say a guy annually buys a fleet of new snowmobiles or UTVs when he or his business is doing well. He has disposable income and passes it the way of the dealership to the tune of about.40~60 grand said dealership keeps employees working full time or at least 40hr a week. The wealthy spending on non-necessities keeps more people working and earning so they will build up disposable income after paying the bills. Maybe it's dinner out once a week or whatever this perpetuates the cycle of earning and spending. Every dollar kept from the government is a good thing. After funneling through bureaucracy about $.18 is left for its intended use. The problem with defining wealthy is it boils down to whomever is making more than the person asked what wealthy is. Trickle down works whether you want to admit it or not. If the household income is up kids are given better allowance they in turn spend more money on things they otherwise wouldn't perpetuating the business cycle.....

drmarkr wrote:

You still don't get it..... When the wealthy stop earning, spending, and investing their money, the lower classes, including the middle class, lose their fucking jobs...

You still don't get it.....

When the wealthy stop earning, spending, and investing their money, the lower classes, including the middle class, lose their fucking jobs. Like the saying goes, how many jobs have you had working for someone with an income of $75k?? You can only grow the government payroll so much, despite the muslim's best efforts.

You tax the hell out of them, thereby shucking their incentive to work harder, and they just work less. Or retire and sit on their money. Unfortunately, all the clueless sheep that voted for Obama and his class warfare lack the sense to grasp this concept.

I contend that is what is happening here, and will be happening to others that see big chunks of their disposable income going to the Guvment in the form of taxes.

GuyB wrote:

This has quickly turned into a political thread, for no particularly good reason. Can any of you who are bitching about taxes say for sure that...

This has quickly turned into a political thread, for no particularly good reason. Can any of you who are bitching about taxes say for sure that this is the reason the team is talking about closing up shop? If not, can it.

lucero10x wrote:

Sorry for joining in, GuyB Prepper, Love it! At least put your guns in a locked safe so they aren't used in a mass killing. Or...

Sorry for joining in, GuyB

Prepper, Love it! At least put your guns in a locked safe so they aren't used in a mass killing. Or, used to kill you like that kid did to his family in NM last week.

Not saying that there couldn't ever be a situation that would turn society around like you are describing, and I agree with preparing for a bad situation. But, I doubt it will happen with a president who will be forced out of office in less than four years presiding over a govt. that his party doesn't completely control with a stock market currently at it's highest in history and the new fillings for unemployment at a 5 year low. Typically, countries with a stable financial system and unemployment under 10% and still declining don't suddenly implode.

But hey, birthers, tea baggers and dooms dayers have never been all that rational to begin with. Just look at where the right wing experts predictions were a few months ago. The gap between all their delusions and reality are very large. Oh, wait, the election was probably stolen. Always an excuse and never any substantive proof. Careful where you consume media, it will consume you.

Here is a good prepper song though.

lucero10x wrote:

Sorry for joining in, GuyB Prepper, Love it! At least put your guns in a locked safe so they aren't used in a mass killing. Or...

Sorry for joining in, GuyB

Prepper, Love it! At least put your guns in a locked safe so they aren't used in a mass killing. Or, used to kill you like that kid did to his family in NM last week.

Not saying that there couldn't ever be a situation that would turn society around like you are describing, and I agree with preparing for a bad situation. But, I doubt it will happen with a president who will be forced out of office in less than four years presiding over a govt. that his party doesn't completely control with a stock market currently at it's highest in history and the new fillings for unemployment at a 5 year low. Typically, countries with a stable financial system and unemployment under 10% and still declining don't suddenly implode.

But hey, birthers, tea baggers and dooms dayers have never been all that rational to begin with. Just look at where the right wing experts predictions were a few months ago. The gap between all their delusions and reality are very large. Oh, wait, the election was probably stolen. Always an excuse and never any substantive proof. Careful where you consume media, it will consume you.

Here is a good prepper song though.

JBlain619 wrote:

Might want to check your "facts" there pal. That cool-aid is affecting your ability to type the truth. I know, I know...you got it all off...

Might want to check your "facts" there pal. That cool-aid is affecting your ability to type the truth. I know, I know...you got it all off CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the left winged moon bat MSM news outlet. They would never diminish the truth to get i the way of a good story, now would they.

ga_pike wrote:

I think the only question that would need to be asked would be "What was JDR getting out of sponsoring a team?" Was there a return...

I think the only question that would need to be asked would be "What was JDR getting out of sponsoring a team?" Was there a return worthy of continued investment? Most likely that answer is no. I'd say the same thing for most teams. Just because we have butts in the seats, doesn't mean those people are actually going out and buying the products they see advertised on the bikes. In a few cases, yes... maybe we are selling more Monster or Red Bull... but are we really selling more Suzuki's? More KTM's? Are people actually seeking out to buy them from the dealers who support the race teams? Does Rock River actually get an increase in business enough to warrant spending as much as they do to field a team? What benefit does JGR actually get out of racing SX and MX? These products are on a different level. Look at NASCAR. I'm willing to bet that lots of rednecks purchase Mountain Dew because of Dale Jr. Or they buy Tide because that's who they see on a car. $3 for a bottle of detergent is completely different than $8000 for a motorcycle. They support and have the means to supports those companies who sponsor the racing they like. Face it, not everyone who enjoys SX and MX can afford to buy the products we represent outside of energy drinks.