Feeder series for the nationals

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Edited Date/Time 11/19/2012 10:09am
I know times are tough and money isn't exactly being handed out like it once was but...why isn't there a feeder series to the nationals, kind of like how AX is to SX..or atleast once was.

There are ALOT of good tracks all over America, and while not all are national caliber..I think a smaller track would make for some good racing.

I love outdoor motocross but there is no denying the fact that the racing leaves alot ot be desired most of the time due to the huge gaps in packs of riders

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MX Culture 10/13/2012 9:19am
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what do you consider the amateur nationals?
or do you mean pro?
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Brad460 10/13/2012 9:23am
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Hando wrote:
I know times are tough and money isn't exactly being handed out like it once was but...why isn't there a feeder series to the nationals, kind...
I know times are tough and money isn't exactly being handed out like it once was but...why isn't there a feeder series to the nationals, kind of like how AX is to SX..or atleast once was.

There are ALOT of good tracks all over America, and while not all are national caliber..I think a smaller track would make for some good racing.

I love outdoor motocross but there is no denying the fact that the racing leaves alot ot be desired most of the time due to the huge gaps in packs of riders

flame suit on!
Where would money be saved for the riders in a feeder series? The major expenses..travel, hotels, food, bikes, maintanence, all exist regardless of the series...

That being said if it could be done economically sounds like a great idea..
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Hando 10/13/2012 9:46am
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MX Culture wrote:
what do you consider the amateur nationals?
or do you mean pro?
pro..

i dont think the amateurs are a feeder series

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Bounce it 223 10/13/2012 10:05am
10/13/2012 10:05am Edited Date/Time 10/13/2012 10:11am
Hando wrote:
I know times are tough and money isn't exactly being handed out like it once was but...why isn't there a feeder series to the nationals, kind...
I know times are tough and money isn't exactly being handed out like it once was but...why isn't there a feeder series to the nationals, kind of like how AX is to SX..or atleast once was.

There are ALOT of good tracks all over America, and while not all are national caliber..I think a smaller track would make for some good racing.

I love outdoor motocross but there is no denying the fact that the racing leaves alot ot be desired most of the time due to the huge gaps in packs of riders

flame suit on!
Brad460 wrote:
Where would money be saved for the riders in a feeder series? The major expenses..travel, hotels, food, bikes, maintanence, all exist regardless of the series... That...
Where would money be saved for the riders in a feeder series? The major expenses..travel, hotels, food, bikes, maintanence, all exist regardless of the series...

That being said if it could be done economically sounds like a great idea..
2 stroke only series .....wouldn't necessarily be a feeder series but a cheaper more competitive alternative to what we have now
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Hando wrote:
I know times are tough and money isn't exactly being handed out like it once was but...why isn't there a feeder series to the nationals, kind...
I know times are tough and money isn't exactly being handed out like it once was but...why isn't there a feeder series to the nationals, kind of like how AX is to SX..or atleast once was.

There are ALOT of good tracks all over America, and while not all are national caliber..I think a smaller track would make for some good racing.

I love outdoor motocross but there is no denying the fact that the racing leaves alot ot be desired most of the time due to the huge gaps in packs of riders

flame suit on!
Brad460 wrote:
Where would money be saved for the riders in a feeder series? The major expenses..travel, hotels, food, bikes, maintanence, all exist regardless of the series... That...
Where would money be saved for the riders in a feeder series? The major expenses..travel, hotels, food, bikes, maintanence, all exist regardless of the series...

That being said if it could be done economically sounds like a great idea..
Bounce it 223 wrote:
2 stroke only series .....wouldn't necessarily be a feeder series but a cheaper more competitive alternative to what we have now
Never happen and I hate to admit it but two strokes are dead. I wish it wasnt so but it is.Sad
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rpoint116 10/13/2012 4:47pm
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You kinda have a good idea.

I know some privateers only do 1 or 2 nationals because of the cost.

Maybey there can be a regional 4-5 state race every 5 weeks during the summer with a big payout. Combine it with a local race. slip in 2-30 minute practice in the am. Have the 1st moto's at 11 am & 3 pm. Similar to the 4-stroke Nationals they had 9-10 years ago.
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Hando 10/13/2012 7:36pm
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rpoint116 wrote:
You kinda have a good idea. I know some privateers only do 1 or 2 nationals because of the cost. Maybey there can be a regional...
You kinda have a good idea.

I know some privateers only do 1 or 2 nationals because of the cost.

Maybey there can be a regional 4-5 state race every 5 weeks during the summer with a big payout. Combine it with a local race. slip in 2-30 minute practice in the am. Have the 1st moto's at 11 am & 3 pm. Similar to the 4-stroke Nationals they had 9-10 years ago.
yup.....i really think certain tracks are better for racing than others...

the racing at the KROC event @ Etown this past weekend looked pretty good in the A class from Woz's videos...

i have no intentions of starting a series as im not in the position financially to do that nor do i have time (real jobs suck lol) but...i think it might be a good idea to help bring MX more main stream

perhaps regional series like the new england circuit could get some local tv time..
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Hando 11/15/2012 6:45pm
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i think im on to something, especially after this new schedule for the 13' MX
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fader418 11/15/2012 7:11pm
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Back in the early 80's alot of the top pros raced the CMC Golden State Series as a warm up...
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PressPassP 11/15/2012 9:53pm
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This one's kinds been discussed before,the EMX follows a lot of GP races around.Roczen and Herlings started off there when they were 15 year olds.

Good series,it gives the kids a taste of what its all about,mind you there's no big amateur series like in the US
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Hando wrote:
I know times are tough and money isn't exactly being handed out like it once was but...why isn't there a feeder series to the nationals, kind...
I know times are tough and money isn't exactly being handed out like it once was but...why isn't there a feeder series to the nationals, kind of like how AX is to SX..or atleast once was.

There are ALOT of good tracks all over America, and while not all are national caliber..I think a smaller track would make for some good racing.

I love outdoor motocross but there is no denying the fact that the racing leaves alot ot be desired most of the time due to the huge gaps in packs of riders

flame suit on!
Brad460 wrote:
Where would money be saved for the riders in a feeder series? The major expenses..travel, hotels, food, bikes, maintanence, all exist regardless of the series... That...
Where would money be saved for the riders in a feeder series? The major expenses..travel, hotels, food, bikes, maintanence, all exist regardless of the series...

That being said if it could be done economically sounds like a great idea..
Bounce it 223 wrote:
2 stroke only series .....wouldn't necessarily be a feeder series but a cheaper more competitive alternative to what we have now
I tried to get a 2 stroke nationals series started last year was going to do 8 rounds and had some really good tracks including freestone and redbud. The problem was to be able to do it you have to bring out the fans and to get the fans you have to get someone like villopoto or Stewart to show up and to do that you have to pay some big bucks and to do that you have to have some big sponsors and all the big sponsors are already dumping all their $$$ into the AMA series. Sucks though the series would have been sick. I had some really cool tracks and people involved with it just couldn't put everything together at the time. Hopefully I can make it happen eventually I'd love to hear 42 fast guys rip around redbud on 125's again Smile
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motomike894 11/16/2012 4:20am
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The pro-am races to earn points are basically that there's usually big a rider pro rider turnouts they always have a purse and they usually do 20 minutes Motos plus 2 laps.
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Roscoe33 11/17/2012 6:00am
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There is a series for that, it's called the Candian Nationals.
a couple of guys have made it up here over the years that Villopoto kid, Nick Wey, Doug Dubach and Dean Wilson come to mind...

we even have TV coverage so you can practice your podium speechs.
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Roscoe33 wrote:
There is a series for that, it's called the Candian Nationals. a couple of guys have made it up here over the years that Villopoto kid...
There is a series for that, it's called the Candian Nationals.
a couple of guys have made it up here over the years that Villopoto kid, Nick Wey, Doug Dubach and Dean Wilson come to mind...

we even have TV coverage so you can practice your podium speechs.
Regional series in merica' is needed IMO
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Off the top of my head the GP's system works very well and twice as much racing for the fans. Have the national over 2 days with qualifying on the sat and split the series in 2. half the races for the up and coming younger stars ( 250F or 125 arguments please Tongue ) and the other half for the women. Then on Sunday the races ! Cost would be shared as they could work out of the team trucks And ferry the bikes about.

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Stanton876 11/17/2012 9:56am
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The AM nationals have a pro class and is the feeder series.
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motomike894 wrote:
The pro-am races to earn points are basically that there's usually big a rider pro rider turnouts they always have a purse and they usually do...
The pro-am races to earn points are basically that there's usually big a rider pro rider turnouts they always have a purse and they usually do 20 minutes Motos plus 2 laps.
That is EXACTLY what the Pro Am AMA series is for and there are races all over the country. Purse is pre set based on rider turn out and points earned to be able to buy a pro sport license.

there are pro am event all year long.
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Shawn142 11/19/2012 4:28am
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Roscoe33 wrote:
There is a series for that, it's called the Candian Nationals. a couple of guys have made it up here over the years that Villopoto kid...
There is a series for that, it's called the Candian Nationals.
a couple of guys have made it up here over the years that Villopoto kid, Nick Wey, Doug Dubach and Dean Wilson come to mind...

we even have TV coverage so you can practice your podium speechs.
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Regional series in merica' is needed IMO
The laughably titled 4-stroke Nationals return in 2013 to fill your wish. This also appears to be the new home for the WMA.

http://www.4strokenationals.com
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tbanks 11/19/2012 5:20am
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The 4-stroke nationals fit what you are talking about. I went to one of these at Budds in 2007 and it was a good turnout. I remember a young Broc Tickle putting on a clinic (First turn crash followed by a last to 3rd place masterpiece in the second 450 moto to take the overall). If I remember correctly there were 30-35 pro's on the gate for both classes and the amatuer races worked around their schedule.

If the turnout can be nice in this economy then this would fit the bill perfectly.
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Highsider 11/19/2012 10:09am
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motomike894 wrote:
The pro-am races to earn points are basically that there's usually big a rider pro rider turnouts they always have a purse and they usually do...
The pro-am races to earn points are basically that there's usually big a rider pro rider turnouts they always have a purse and they usually do 20 minutes Motos plus 2 laps.
Pay attention here for your answer. ^ ^ ^

Visit the one held at Redbud the day after the National.

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