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Absolutely,
The Euros beat the US, which they have not been able to do the last 7 times. Does it mean much? Like the Euros are faster? No because of a couple reasons.
First Americans had a bad hair day. If Barcia would not have hit another riders and lost spokes, (self inflected) or Barcia would not have distracted Dungey and him went off track (again team inflicted) things would have been different. But it didn't work out that way and Team America got third
Second, home track advantage. This was especially hard for the Americans since they had never ridden this type of track. Herlings had this as home track and he learned the track and gained a skill for sand, which seems to help him on other sand tracks as well.
What did Roczen say about this?..
At least this time team usa, saw that when u go away from home, its not alwaYs easy. condoitions are brutal for u and normal for us.
for me there were a few other things when i went over there. so that answer’s a lot of peoples thoughts/questions.
— Ken Roczen (@KenRoczen94) oktober 1, 2012
Well first, it wasn't brutal, the Americans had some bad luck. Barcia was pressing pretty hard and done pretty well.
The second statement seems like an excuse as to why Roczen did not do well over here. But the Americans won 7 years straight and many years before that even though most of those races were on Euro soil and the Euros had track advantage.
I think it unrealistic for us to expect the Americans to win every race, In this instance we see how home track advantage combined with a bad day can bring us down to 3rd place. Pretty impressive , Kudos to the Americans as well even with bad luck and a track disadvantage they were still on the podium.
The Euros beat the US, which they have not been able to do the last 7 times. Does it mean much? Like the Euros are faster? No because of a couple reasons.
First Americans had a bad hair day. If Barcia would not have hit another riders and lost spokes, (self inflected) or Barcia would not have distracted Dungey and him went off track (again team inflicted) things would have been different. But it didn't work out that way and Team America got third
Second, home track advantage. This was especially hard for the Americans since they had never ridden this type of track. Herlings had this as home track and he learned the track and gained a skill for sand, which seems to help him on other sand tracks as well.
What did Roczen say about this?..
At least this time team usa, saw that when u go away from home, its not alwaYs easy. condoitions are brutal for u and normal for us.
for me there were a few other things when i went over there. so that answer’s a lot of peoples thoughts/questions.
— Ken Roczen (@KenRoczen94) oktober 1, 2012
Well first, it wasn't brutal, the Americans had some bad luck. Barcia was pressing pretty hard and done pretty well.
The second statement seems like an excuse as to why Roczen did not do well over here. But the Americans won 7 years straight and many years before that even though most of those races were on Euro soil and the Euros had track advantage.
I think it unrealistic for us to expect the Americans to win every race, In this instance we see how home track advantage combined with a bad day can bring us down to 3rd place. Pretty impressive , Kudos to the Americans as well even with bad luck and a track disadvantage they were still on the podium.
And not Herlings hometrack, since Herlings lives in Holland ,not Belgium
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Tanel did an excellent job.
The guy is a monster in the sand.
The US riders were claimed as great sand riders too,I thought they did well,they practiced beforehand to get set up etc and were not far from some of the other GP riders,many ofthose hate the brutal tracks like Lommel too afterall
That you've got sandpits like Southwick, that US riders would have no problem
Florida has plenty of sand tracks and so on.....
Now all of a sudden it's not fair
Really dude?
You guys were telling us Lommel was different than Southwick and Florida, and it was, There is no doubt every time Americans go to Europe the Euros will have track advantage, because they have raced on the tracks there every year. The Americans have never seen the track. In the previous years it has never really had an effect and the Americans won. This year it was different, combined with a little bad luck, they only got third, which is pretty good.
It is unreasonable to think the Americans will win the MXON, it proves how good they are because they win most of them whether you go back 7 years or 20
It was easy for the Americans to underestimate the track since the Americans win year after year with no challenge from the Euros. This year was different. Kudos to the Germans, but I don't think the Americans will underestimate them again. But again there was also some bad luck so that also had a big influence on American not winning this year.
Erm, I think you need to go back through old youtube video's and watch the European riders win races and the terrible luck some of them suffered which aided Team USA's victories in recent years. Of course, you guys enjoyed pointing out that "you make your own luck" then.
The double standards on display here are brilliant.
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Also Lommel is reworked with new sections & ran opposite way around to try to keep things fresh. Truth is if the event was held at any deep sand track the result would have been similar, IMO Leirop is tougher then Lommel. Valkensward can also be hard going.
Your guys rode it and they were honest in their rap up they gave praise to the riders that rode well and were great ambassadors for the sport .
In previous years every team has had bad luck more than one team had bad luck this year but thats racing and shit happens.
Riding that sand is an art form some riders never get the hang of look at tommy searle he hates the stuff and he is going to have to get better in it or next year in mx 1 he will get beaten big time by riders who usually wouldn't beat him.
The usa verses the euros is such a boring argument ken should have won a few moto's this year but crashed and had bad luck and also got beat hands down in others but he shouldn't be winning sx races because thats an american thing and your guys are the best at it, so using your logic explain how that happened
Did you even see the Lierop GP ?
And still you dare say that Herlings "has no magic"
Oh yeah sure only the USA had bad luck this year
Belgium had a DNF , van Horebeek
Italy , Lupino had to ride with a hand injury,suffered DNF
Holland also suffered a DNF , Coldenhoff
De reuver and Herlings crashed in the beginning of moto 3
Haha dude stop making excuses, and just accept the fact that on that day there were a couple of better riders
Team USA showed great heart and where valiant in defeat (check racer x post race interviews) I would suggest the USA's bad luck was caused by being behind the eight ball with speed at Lommel and making a courageous effort to win against the odds and maybe riding a little out of depth on the day.
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Shake hands, see you next year.
Or, are you including yourself because the Chamberlain trophy is in Europe?
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