Carolli pulls out of both motos.

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7/22/2008 6:26am
So rather than getting the Euro to bring one team why not get the US states to each send different teams. In that perspcetive which state would have the strongest team?? Given the rider has to be born in the state not just live there now.

Would it be Florida? California?

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7/22/2008 6:35am
jo2910 wrote:
So rather than getting the Euro to bring one team why not get the US states to each send different teams. In that perspcetive which state...
So rather than getting the Euro to bring one team why not get the US states to each send different teams. In that perspcetive which state would have the strongest team?? Given the rider has to be born in the state not just live there now.

Would it be Florida? California?

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7/22/2008 7:19am
Cygnus wrote:
What's funny is that even if all 3 US riders get hurt before mxdn . We could field three more guys that would win easy.Laughing
You are not serious, don't you ???

Laughing
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7/22/2008 7:32am
Cygnus wrote:
What's funny is that even if all 3 US riders get hurt before mxdn . We could field three more guys that would win easy.Laughing
You are not serious, don't you ???

Laughing
Well that would be Short and Dungey on 450F and Grant on 250F or Short and Millsaps 450F and Dungey 250F.

That would still be decent teams and have a shot at the win but Italy and Belgium would have a better chance.

BTW France hasn't announced their team but Seb Pourcel has a lot of speed to show and Aubin can ride a 450F pretty well also. He does so in the French national and is not too far from Pourcel. Frossard would make a good 250F.

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7/22/2008 10:14am
Pourcel, Aubin and Frossard, the best french team for the 2008 MXoN, without any doubt.
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7/22/2008 12:25pm
He just needed a smoke is all ... [img]http://usera.imagecave.com/brainbasket/cairoli_chops.bmp.jpg[/img]
He just needed a smoke is all ...

Seriously doesnt the guy make enough to afford some braces. Yikes.
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7/22/2008 12:25pm Edited Date/Time 7/22/2008 12:25pm
He just needed a smoke is all ... [img]http://usera.imagecave.com/brainbasket/cairoli_chops.bmp.jpg[/img]
He just needed a smoke is all ...

double post.
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7/22/2008 2:55pm
Its not his teeth, its the shape of his skull. He could have perfectly straight teeth and they would still look like 'Billy Bob' teeth. Gums to teeth ratios worse than Gina Davis
7/22/2008 2:57pm
Alex wrote:
Its not his teeth, its the shape of his skull. He could have perfectly straight teeth and they would still look like 'Billy Bob' teeth. Gums...
Its not his teeth, its the shape of his skull. He could have perfectly straight teeth and they would still look like 'Billy Bob' teeth. Gums to teeth ratios worse than Gina Davis
lol
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7/22/2008 3:59pm
No he doesn't have to move up. As it says in your own post, that's not untill 2010. So if he wants he can stay in...
No he doesn't have to move up.
As it says in your own post, that's not untill 2010.
So if he wants he can stay in MX2 for another year and if he becomes worldchampion he could stay there even in 2010.
Yeah your right. My mistake. I knew I read somewhere about the 1 year to defend your title rule in MX2 and got a little carried away.
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7/22/2008 3:59pm
Cygnus wrote:
What's funny is that even if all 3 US riders get hurt before mxdn . We could field three more guys that would win easy.Laughing
Name them ? You might have a small chance , but wouldn't think you would still win, you don't really have any other guys that are that fast. Damm Boniface was a top 5, 6 guy he struggles to make top ten in GP racing, he is a good starter but makes his way to the back pretty quick
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His knee is shot and he pulled out of competition in both motos this weekend. Doesn't look good for MXoN. Tyla Ratray and Searle battling for...
His knee is shot and he pulled out of competition in both motos this weekend. Doesn't look good for MXoN. Tyla Ratray and Searle battling for Championship now.
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Do they specify whether it's 2 or 4 stroke?
I think they are going cc to cc whether it be a 2 stroke or 4 stroke. I guess a 250 smoker will be the new 125 in the MX2 class.
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7/23/2008 10:16am
Cairoli will be out for the rest of the season due to his injured knee in South african GP...he will be back in 2009 in MX1 class
7/23/2008 10:19am
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Cairoli will be out for the rest of the season due to his injured knee in South african GP...he will be back in 2009 in MX1...
Cairoli will be out for the rest of the season due to his injured knee in South african GP...he will be back in 2009 in MX1 class
the MX1 class is going to be interesting next year then...
7/23/2008 11:35am
i cant wait to take this clown out
7/23/2008 1:45pm Edited Date/Time 7/23/2008 1:47pm
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He looks like a little wannabee in this picture. Maybe he will opt for the super bling hip hop front grill with his knee surgery. (either in gold or plat.)

No disrespect but I have heard some of his interviews and it seems as though he still believes he would have done better at the MXDN if he had more time on the bikes and other excuses. It would have been nice to hear him admit that he got schooled. Everts a few years back admitted that RC was just on another level and that takes an incredible amount of sportsmanship to say. Carolli uhm yeah, could not muster that up.
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7/23/2008 1:48pm Edited Date/Time 7/23/2008 1:48pm
Cygnus wrote:
What's funny is that even if all 3 US riders get hurt before mxdn . We could field three more guys that would win easy.Laughing
jtomasik wrote:
Yeah. It helps when your other opponents have 1/10th the population that you do. It really isn't fair. What would be comparable is to let Europe...
Yeah. It helps when your other opponents have 1/10th the population that you do. It really isn't fair. What would be comparable is to let Europe combine their forces and enter one team of their best, regardless of which European country they came from.


The rules are dated, just like the stupid rule that pitted 450cc 4-strokes against 250cc 2-strokes.
huh? the world is racing against florida not the usa!
7/23/2008 2:08pm
"Well that would be Short and Dungey on 450F and Grant on 250F or Short and Millsaps 450F and Dungey 250F"

I think Reed, Byrne and Metcalfe would have them covered. Only 'cos I'm a biased Aussie. Would be close though.
7/23/2008 2:23pm
the MX1 class is going to be interesting next year then...
It's already very interesting this year, if you really follow it ...
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7/23/2008 2:55pm
Sinbad wrote:
So then it's not a population thing giving us an unfair advantage it's because it's popular?
jtomasik wrote:
It's rider numbers. MX is comparably popular (if not more so here) in both Europe and here. The European countries size and population is similar to...
It's rider numbers. MX is comparably popular (if not more so here) in both Europe and here. The European countries size and population is similar to average size states in the US. It's logical to reason that we have a substantially larger rider base to pull from.

I'm not interested in slaughtering France. I am interested in slaughtering Europe at the MXoN. The way to do that is allow them a fair shot at us, and when we still beat them, then they can eat crow.
USA population: 300 million

Population of France: 63 million

Population of Gernamy: 83 million

Population of England (not United Kingdom): 50 milion

Population of South Africa: 50 million

Popuation of Italy: 60 million

Most populous state in the USA is CA w/ around 32 million people.

I suspect that more average people in Europe ride anyways from my trips there. I bet per Capita they have 3x the # of riders.

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7/23/2008 2:59pm
It's already very interesting this year, if you really follow it ...
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7/23/2008 3:30pm
It's over. Just read this on Cycle News On-Line:

MX2-GP World Champion Antonio Cairoli has undergone surgery on his left knee after scans yesterday in Belgium revealed a damaged ACL. Renowned specialist Dr Claes performed the successful procedure and the repercussions of the injury sustained last weekend in South Africa and the subsequent recovery period mean that the 2008 series is over for the unlucky Sicilian.

Cairoli twisted his knee trying to keep control of his YZ250F after being touched negotiating a crowded fourth turn on the first lap of round 10 in Nelspruit last Sunday. Despite a lot of pain, early signs appeared not to be too bad with little inflammation around the joint; the reigning number one and winner of four Grand Prix this season showed immense courage to even attempt the second moto but ultimately had to pull into the pits, unable to continue.

Upon returning to Europe, Cairoli had an MRI which revealed the ligament damage and immediately made a decision together with Yamaha Red Bull De Carli team principal Claudio de Carli to go under the knife and begin the rehabilitation process of between 3-4 months, with an aim to be fully fit over the crucial winter period where he will begin preparations for his assault on the MX1-GP class in 2009.

“I was frustrated and disappointed after the accident with my knee in South Africa. The championship is so tight that I knew even missing just one moto was an advantage I could not give to Tommy and Tyla,” the 22 year old said. “I thought I might have some problems with the meniscus and hoped I could come back in Lommel as I did not want to surrender the title but after the scan I knew that the championship had gone for sure. Instead of trying to ride in pain or not being at 100%, I made the decision to have the surgery now and get the recovery out of the way as soon as possible.”

Cairoli should be able to start walking with crutches very soon and will have a check-up next week. In less than a month he will be able to start training with a bicycle.

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7/23/2008 5:31pm
he is one of the ugliest people on earth. that whole get up in that podium pic gives me nightmares
7/23/2008 6:07pm
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He looks like a little wannabee in this picture. Maybe he will opt for the super bling hip hop front grill with his knee surgery. (either...
He looks like a little wannabee in this picture. Maybe he will opt for the super bling hip hop front grill with his knee surgery. (either in gold or plat.)

No disrespect but I have heard some of his interviews and it seems as though he still believes he would have done better at the MXDN if he had more time on the bikes and other excuses. It would have been nice to hear him admit that he got schooled. Everts a few years back admitted that RC was just on another level and that takes an incredible amount of sportsmanship to say. Carolli uhm yeah, could not muster that up.
Everts is a Class Act... ac well im sure he's working on it...
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7/23/2008 6:22pm
i cant wait to take this clown out
Lawrence for AMA President......
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He just needed a smoke is all ... [img]http://usera.imagecave.com/brainbasket/cairoli_chops.bmp.jpg[/img]
He just needed a smoke is all ...

Foster576 wrote:
double post.
Freddy Mercury just rolled over in his grave and said "Dude! Your grill is JACKED UP!"
7/24/2008 1:21pm
i cant wait to take this clown out
hoots3pak wrote:
Lawrence for AMA President......
What lawrence take him down. well since Jlaw cannot race maybe he should challange AC to some bear pong, or perhaps the "never have I ever driking game". (e.g. "never have I ever punched a red bud fan."
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7/24/2008 2:17pm
i cant wait to take this clown out
hoots3pak wrote:
Lawrence for AMA President......
What lawrence take him down. well since Jlaw cannot race maybe he should challange AC to some bear pong, or perhaps the "never have I ever...
What lawrence take him down. well since Jlaw cannot race maybe he should challange AC to some bear pong, or perhaps the "never have I ever driking game". (e.g. "never have I ever punched a red bud fan."
WTF ! Bear pong ? If you can't spell Beer . Hand in your man card!!!
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7/24/2008 2:34pm
Did Carolli kick anyone???

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