My 30 year reunion with a 1983 Honda CR250R

Edited Date/Time 7/12/2015 10:06am
Since I can't afford the prescribe medication for a severe Mid Life Crisis, IE. a new Corvette a sweet Toupee and a Supermodel, I went with what I could afford, and decided to try to go back in time to when my life took a change that I never thought would happen or that would not last very long, that being to quit racing Motocross.

I feel compelled to tell my Motocross Life Story, so here it goes, I will make it as short and sweet as possible.

I got into Motocross In 1973, when my Dad took me to see the 1973 Trans-AM at Arizona Cycle Park, and I was hooked.

I then rode my bicycle down to my local Dealership '' Western Honda in Scottsdale AZ." and saw the brand new 1973 Honda CR250 Elsinore, instantly I fell in love with it, and have been a lover of Honda's and Motocross ever since,
Funny thing I hardly ever race a Honda but a couple of times.

I was to small to ride the Elsinore then, but years later and before Vintage Motocross came into existence, I said to myself some day I'm going to buy 73 Elsinore and restore it just so I can have one to look at .

I found one in bad shape 20 years ago and bought it for about $200. that was just about the time I first heard about Vintage Motocross and I thought it would be cool to restore and race it, that is till I sat on it and realized how small these bikes were, me being 6'2'' and 220lbs I really didn't think it would be that much fun to ride or race it,
so I completely tore it apart and it has been sitting in a million pieces in my garage ever since then.

At the first of this year I went out to a Vintage MX race at Speedworld, and check out the racing, bikes, classes and met some of the guys that are in the club, and decided that it looked like a lot of fun, and the guys all seemed really cool.
They all seemed to have grown up riding and racing during the same time as I, and seemed like they were not to serious and were there to just have fun racing and reminiscing about the good old days of Motocross.

Now that the Vintage classes go back to the early 80s, the bikes look like a lot more fun for me to ride and race.

I decided that the bike I wanted to get would be the 1983 Honda CR250R, because that is the bike that I quit racing on, on a serious weekly basis.

Actullalty I never even got to race that bike,and it is a some what sad story, let me back up a little and tell you when I started racing and how it all ended.

I started racing in 1977 on a YZ80, I raced 80s for about a year and half, both Yam.& Suz., then moved up to 125s and raced 78 &79 RMs, a 79 KX. 80 YZ, and a 81 RM, till 82 then got a 82 Suzuki RM250, I raced if for a year in 250 Int. did pretty good, and felt like it was time to move up to Expert.

In 83 Honda started giving out local support rides, most were given to the riders that were already racing Honda's and sponsored by that particular dealer. Since I was not racing a Honda, A guy I knew who was the father of a couple of real fast local guys tried to help me get a support ride, but it fell trough and the dealer wanted to turn it into a contest .

At that time I needed some support real bad, as I was finding out that when I started getting close to Expert speed, the bike started breaking a lot and falling apart a lot faster then I could aford to fix it.

At that time my parents weren't doing very well, and were not able to help me , I was working at a motorcycle distributor makeing just a little above minimum wage.
Then my parents lost are house, and I had to move out on my own, and I figured out real quick that I was not able to aford to race any more unless I could get a support ride and a better job.

So the guy that was trying to help me with the ride was able to get me a new 83 Honda CR 250 at cost, but I never could aford to race it, and I ended up selling a few months later.

A year later I did end up buying a used 1984 Honda CR250 from a friend and racing it a couple of times, and believe it or not my actual very last race was at Saddleback Park at the very last race just before they closed the park for good.

On a lark my two friends and I decided to go to Saddleback when are local track got flooded out ,as we had done a few times over the years, and this time it ended up be the last time for the baddest track I had ever seen or raced on.

My only Dream was to be a Pro Motocrosser, and then graduate to four wheels like Ward,Johnson and McGrath.

At the minimum I thought I would be able to grow old racing motocross for fun, in reallty I probably could have, but for a real long time I thought the only way I could do it and injoy it, would be only if I could aford a new bike every year or so.
It's taken me 30 years to realize that is not true. Sad

Any who, I'm pushing 50 years old now. The only reason I quit racing was because I could not aford it, I always hope and thought that I could get back into it, and now it seems like this is my chance.

I plan on racing it in a month or so in the local Vintage club.

So any way that's my story and I'm sticking to it, I hope I didn't bore you guys to much with my old Moto story.

Here's some pictures of my 1983 Honda CR250R, I've spent the last couple of months restoring it.

I decided to put number 11 on it, in Honor of David Bailey's domination in 1983, plus he was one of my most favorite riders of all time. Smile

Also here's some pictures of some of my old gear from 83, boots and pants, the gloves are new JTs and jersey I made my self.













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notme
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8/5/2012 9:06pm
Good story man! Your about the same age as me and rode the same years.
Lucky for us we were in the right motocross era.....dollar wise I dont think I could afford keeping a 4 stroke together for racing today.
Your bike looks awesome!

cheers
mxvet37
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8/6/2012 10:56am
Beautiful restoration Mike! Your background story reminded me of all of the amazing times that we had together racing MX. One of most classic stories of all was in 1982. We both had new Suzuki RM's and had traveled to a newer track in northern AZ. Both of us dominated our classes. I won the 125 Intermediate class and you won the 250 Intermediate class. The most epic part of the day was at the end of moto 2 when after a split start, you had caught me. We were hauling ass down a long straight side by side and looked over at each other and nodded on the last lap. We both cruised in for 1-1, both on RM's. Doesn't get much better than that buddy!
8/6/2012 5:05pm
mxvet37 wrote:
Beautiful restoration Mike! Your background story reminded me of all of the amazing times that we had together racing MX. One of most classic stories of...
Beautiful restoration Mike! Your background story reminded me of all of the amazing times that we had together racing MX. One of most classic stories of all was in 1982. We both had new Suzuki RM's and had traveled to a newer track in northern AZ. Both of us dominated our classes. I won the 125 Intermediate class and you won the 250 Intermediate class. The most epic part of the day was at the end of moto 2 when after a split start, you had caught me. We were hauling ass down a long straight side by side and looked over at each other and nodded on the last lap. We both cruised in for 1-1, both on RM's. Doesn't get much better than that buddy!
Dave that was definitely one of my fondest memory's as well. Smile
It was great having you as my MX buddy , we had some great times together for sure.

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8/13/2012 8:28pm
thats a great bike and an even better story. its nice to see that their are other people out there who have a true passion for the sport and have a true appreciation for the legends that made this sport what is is today.
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8/14/2012 11:37pm
Great story, no you didn't bore us.
8/25/2012 4:01pm Edited Date/Time 8/25/2012 4:03pm
Hey Guys , thanks for all the nice comments. I'm looking forward to getting this bike on the track.

Hey do any of you guys know were I could find a pair of these in white or grey for my bike ?

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8/26/2012 3:51pm
Nice job on the 83 CR250R.

Also a cool back end story.
9/15/2012 11:14pm
Finally got the bike out to the track for it's maiden voyage , it was a lot of fun.

It felt pretty good, I need to dial in the forks and the carb a little.

Here's some more pictures.











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mxvet37
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9/16/2012 10:39am
Cool pics Mike! Looks like the Speedworld vintage track. How was it? You should bring that thing to Jerry Hall to have him dial the carb in.
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9/17/2012 11:38am
looks awesome i am just in the middle of doing an 83 cr125
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9/17/2012 8:00pm
Great story! Great Bike! Great Guy! Excellent job Mike. I'm glad that our tracks crossed and I'm sure that one day we'll get my CR250 in the same shape as this bike. The pictures look awesome! Thanks for a heartfelt and touching story.
9/24/2012 8:43pm
Outstanding story, my friend. I'm closing in on 40 years old quickly and your story inspired me to get out there and ride. Thanks for sharing, my friend. Sweet bike by the way...loved those '83 CR's...still do!
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9/25/2012 11:26am
If you have something that you would like David to sign for you (helmet, number plate, whatever...), PM me and I'll make it happen.

Nice bike and gear!
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9/25/2012 9:05pm
Great story !
9/30/2012 6:38pm Edited Date/Time 10/1/2012 7:44pm
Cool pics Mike! Looks like the Speedworld vintage track. How was it? You should bring that thing to Jerry Hall to have him dial the carb in.
Hey Dave, yes it's SVT. it was great, been out the last 3 weekends. I went out today to watch the local Vintage race, it looked pretty cool an laided back. I think next month I will try racing it at there next race.


looks awesome i am just in the middle of doing an 83 cr125
Hey tns thanks, your 83 125 looks awesome as well. let me know if you start a thread on it .


Great story! Great Bike! Great Guy! Excellent job Mike. I'm glad that our tracks crossed and I'm sure that one day we'll get my CR250 in the same shape as this bike. The pictures look awesome! Thanks for a heartfelt and touching story

Hey Franklin, thanks for all the kind words definitely will be cool when we get both are ninety CRs done.


Outstanding story, my friend. I'm closing in on 40 years old quickly and your story inspired me to get out there and ride. Thanks for sharing, my friend. Sweet bike by the way...loved those '83 CR's...still do!

Hey Marshall , thanks for the kind words. Thats pretty cool that my story inspired you.


If you have something that you would like David to sign for you (helmet, number plate, whatever...), PM me and I'll make it happen. Nice bike and gear!

Hey Tb, thanks I will probably take you up on that .


Great story !

Thanks TG
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10/1/2012 5:38am
Great story. Come out to ACP this Sunday and ride.
We have some common history, as a metro,canyon beeline nd 70's guy myself.
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10/1/2012 6:31am
Funny what a small world it is. I used to hang out at western Honda too. Eddy blose worked in parts and gave me a temp job moving parts and shelves to their new current location. That helped me pay for my first real mx bike.
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I am mid way through an 83 build pulled this carcus out of Newmann's garage and he allowed me to get it running a new frame and about a grand later here she sits, I have all new VMX plastics ready to be installed, all the suspension has been rebuilt along with the linkage, Pro form pipe ready to go, bottom end should be going in this week as well, top end is getting lined out and ready to go, a few other odds and ends should be arriving this week.



Sorry for the low quality phone pic.
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10/2/2012 8:42pm
Hey, bring out your bike to acp this Sunday. A bunch of us vintage guys are running a practice on the vet track.
10/3/2012 6:51pm
Hey, bring out your bike to acp this Sunday. A bunch of us vintage guys are running a practice on the vet track.
What Time ?
oldmxdog61u
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10/4/2012 9:31am
7am until noonish. Mostly us gp2 riders.
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10/4/2012 9:34am
Should be fun. Bobby runs a nice track. Plus, he was a local pro from our era and neck of the woods.
10/21/2012 7:03pm Edited Date/Time 10/21/2012 7:06pm
Hey, bring out your bike to acp this Sunday. A bunch of us vintage guys are running a practice on the vet track.
OMD sorry I missed that ride, maybe I could catch the next one.


Well my return to the track went pretty well, I brought home some Semi Heavy Metal.

In the 1st moto I got a 5th place start, past a couple of guys, and ended up 1st overall in my class, and 3rd overall in Expert. Second moto didn't go as well, I got a really bad start, thought I could start picking off guys, but it felt like I had a flat rear tire, I almost crashed a few times, I ended up slowing down twice to see if is was flat , with the neck brace I was wearing I couldn't see anything, by the second stop I was second to last, so I decided to keep going and it started feeling better and was able to get up to second or third in my class, which ended up giving me second overall, not to bad for my first race in almost thirty years.
I only crashed once all day, and it was first thing before practice, I decided to take a few laps around the kiddie track to try and warm up a little, I was just cruising around pretty slow , and came off this really Sweet little jump that drop down into a turn, when the front end decided to wash out and slam me to the ground, it hurt , I've decided I really don't like Crashing, but I had a really great time.

I saw a couple of old race buddys that I have not seen in 30 + years, Paul Dunne and Bob Jordan, Paul was in my race, but I was not able to talk to him, he must of left right after the race. I talk to Bob for awhile and found out he lives a couple of blocks away from me.

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10/21/2012 7:17pm
Great story and beautiful bike!
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10/21/2012 8:15pm
Paul is one of the nicest, if not fastest guys around. You have good friends. Hope to see you sometime, probably November... For A 30yr hiatus, you sou.d great.
10/31/2012 6:55pm Edited Date/Time 10/31/2012 6:56pm
Paul is one of the nicest, if not fastest guys around. You have good friends. Hope to see you sometime, probably November... For A 30yr hiatus...
Paul is one of the nicest, if not fastest guys around. You have good friends. Hope to see you sometime, probably November... For A 30yr hiatus, you sou.d great.
Thanks oldmxdog, I can sure attest to Paul being fast, he raced what looked like a 74-75 Husky twin shock with us guys on GP III bikes and got second in the Expert class.


''Great story and beautiful bike! ''

Thanks Moto543
11/11/2012 6:25am
I finally got a few pictures of me riding the bike, sorry for the quality my camera sucks for taking, well any kind of pictures especially action photos.









This next picture has really inspired me to loose weight, l look like like Jaba the Hut, LOL



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11/11/2012 1:38pm
Cool pics Mike! Looks fun.
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Finally got the bike out to the track for it's maiden voyage , it was a lot of fun. It felt pretty good, I need to...
Finally got the bike out to the track for it's maiden voyage , it was a lot of fun.

It felt pretty good, I need to dial in the forks and the carb a little.

Here's some more pictures.











That looks like Speedworlds vet track? Perfect track for the older bikes for sure. Mike cousin had an Elsinore 125 and that thing scared me to death at the time (10yrs old) Great looking bike BTW and good story.

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