summey and alessi?

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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 10:59pm
if I understand it correctly, did summey let off and slow down too quicjkly after the finish, and alessi and albertson were still racing, and jeff flew over the finish line and landed on summey, completely blindsiding him? You'd think he'd know better than to slow down coming out of gravity cavity...
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DownSouth 7/20/2008 12:13pm
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Thats what it sounds like happened. I guess Summey did not know that there were two guys still going balls out behind him.

The old Unadilla finish would not have had this problem. Summey should have kept going. Hope he is ok.
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vet954 7/20/2008 12:14pm
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Bad deal deal for Summey. Taken off on a body board. They will blame this one on the track owners/finish line layout not lack of common sense on the part of the racers.
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mxtweeker 7/20/2008 1:20pm
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It's the finish of the race, summey did what you normaly do... slow down after the flag.. I think it is a shity spot for the finish...
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mxtweeker wrote:
It's the finish of the race, summey did what you normaly do... slow down after the flag.. I think it is a shity spot for the...
It's the finish of the race, summey did what you normaly do... slow down after the flag.. I think it is a shity spot for the finish...
You don't stop on the middle of the freeway off ramp just because you reached your destination. You should always be aware of what's going behind you and look for a place to exit the track safely. Bad deal for both, but heres betting that Summey does not do that again.

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knowitallnovice 7/20/2008 5:18pm
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I blame the track and then Summey but just a very little bit. It was a silly idea to have the finish there in a blind spot. I could have told you that yesterday.

I apply zero blame to alessi and alberston.
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Was he moving when they carried him off? updates?
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Talked to his dad, he's a little banged up but nothing broken. Already released from the hospital.
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Crash82 7/20/2008 6:03pm
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Blame the track? The track landed on him? I blame it on lack of focus, sucks he got hurt but it was his fault and he also hurt another rider.
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knowitallnovice 7/20/2008 6:03pm
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That's great news. Glad to hear it.
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DownSouth 7/20/2008 6:24pm
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Blame the track? The track landed on him? I blame it on lack of focus, sucks he got hurt but it was his fault and he...
Blame the track? The track landed on him? I blame it on lack of focus, sucks he got hurt but it was his fault and he also hurt another rider.
It was Summey's fault?

He was not the one riding the flying projectile that caused the accident.

It was no ones fault, it was a fluke racing incident.


Gatorback has a similar finish line setup and I never witnessed an incident like that.
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mxtweeker 7/20/2008 6:27pm
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mxtweeker wrote:
It's the finish of the race, summey did what you normaly do... slow down after the flag.. I think it is a shity spot for the...
It's the finish of the race, summey did what you normaly do... slow down after the flag.. I think it is a shity spot for the finish...
eurohero wrote:
You don't stop on the middle of the freeway off ramp just because you reached your destination. You should always be aware of what's going behind...
You don't stop on the middle of the freeway off ramp just because you reached your destination. You should always be aware of what's going behind you and look for a place to exit the track safely. Bad deal for both, but heres betting that Summey does not do that again.
Right and you dont put the finish at a blind jump that is pretty high speed.. It can be a jump at the finish but think about the what if's too.. Sure summey should have pulled to the side, but he did not know that 2 guys were going to be battling and launch out of the cavity at the checkered.. Leason learned for all.. Too bad it normaly takes a guy getting hurt or nearly hurt to learn these leasons... Leason learned for dilla crew... and summey..
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Slow ~ Pro 7/20/2008 6:32pm
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The race is to the checkered flag "Period"


...a racer should be going at top speed, as he passes the waving flag.


If Charles Summey, chose to slow, he should have moved to the side, out of harms way


He rode practice, he knew where the finish was...100% rider error !
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KAWboy14 7/20/2008 6:34pm
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i wanna know what yamaha 336 has to say about this!
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Crash82 7/20/2008 6:44pm
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He won't post because the Jammer said he was a dumbass
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Yamaha336 7/20/2008 6:53pm
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i wanna know what yamaha 336 has to say about this!
I can't speculate about the accident. I have no idea where they moved the finish line to and I have no idea what the area the finish line is in now looks like.

From what everyone is saying I don't see how only one person could be held solely responsible for what happened. You and everyone else on here has seen what goes on after the checkered flag has been waived. We have seen the winner style over, roll over, and jump normally over the finish line. It just depends on who it is. After the checkered flag you see everyone after the top 3 take the flag with a jump or just roll it.

The finish line at Unadilla up until this year I guess is not even a jump. It was just a line in a straight away. I have no idea what or where it is this year.
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SXracerguy 7/20/2008 6:53pm
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Did they move the finish line this year?
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KAWboy14 wrote:
i wanna know what yamaha 336 has to say about this!
Yamaha336 wrote:
I can't speculate about the accident. I have no idea where they moved the finish line to and I have no idea what the area the...
I can't speculate about the accident. I have no idea where they moved the finish line to and I have no idea what the area the finish line is in now looks like.

From what everyone is saying I don't see how only one person could be held solely responsible for what happened. You and everyone else on here has seen what goes on after the checkered flag has been waived. We have seen the winner style over, roll over, and jump normally over the finish line. It just depends on who it is. After the checkered flag you see everyone after the top 3 take the flag with a jump or just roll it.

The finish line at Unadilla up until this year I guess is not even a jump. It was just a line in a straight away. I have no idea what or where it is this year.
that was a good answer!
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eurohero 7/20/2008 7:03pm
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Not sure if this track gets regular practices and amatuer races or not, but if so, this finish area needs to be changed. If pro MXers are making mistakes here, imagine an open practice or race day? I don't think it's the tracks fault, as these pros should be fully aware of whats going on during a national event. This place is asking for trouble if the track is filled with Beginner through Expert riders on a regular day. MX does not need a track getting shut down over something like this.

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KAWboy14 7/20/2008 7:03pm
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it was ALL summeys fault.....a "PRO" knows he has to pay attention all the time.
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Slow ~ Pro wrote:
The race is to the checkered flag "Period" ...a racer should be going at top speed, as he passes the waving flag. If Charles Summey, chose...
The race is to the checkered flag "Period"


...a racer should be going at top speed, as he passes the waving flag.


If Charles Summey, chose to slow, he should have moved to the side, out of harms way


He rode practice, he knew where the finish was...100% rider error !
bingo...what kind of asslapper would blame the track?
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KAWboy14 wrote:
i wanna know what yamaha 336 has to say about this!
Yamaha336 wrote:
I can't speculate about the accident. I have no idea where they moved the finish line to and I have no idea what the area the...
I can't speculate about the accident. I have no idea where they moved the finish line to and I have no idea what the area the finish line is in now looks like.

From what everyone is saying I don't see how only one person could be held solely responsible for what happened. You and everyone else on here has seen what goes on after the checkered flag has been waived. We have seen the winner style over, roll over, and jump normally over the finish line. It just depends on who it is. After the checkered flag you see everyone after the top 3 take the flag with a jump or just roll it.

The finish line at Unadilla up until this year I guess is not even a jump. It was just a line in a straight away. I have no idea what or where it is this year.
KAWboy14 wrote:
that was a good answer!
Thank you!! See you guys can play nice. Didn't kill anyone either.
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BobbyM 7/20/2008 7:12pm
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KAWboy14 wrote:
i wanna know what yamaha 336 has to say about this!
Yamaha336 wrote:
I can't speculate about the accident. I have no idea where they moved the finish line to and I have no idea what the area the...
I can't speculate about the accident. I have no idea where they moved the finish line to and I have no idea what the area the finish line is in now looks like.

From what everyone is saying I don't see how only one person could be held solely responsible for what happened. You and everyone else on here has seen what goes on after the checkered flag has been waived. We have seen the winner style over, roll over, and jump normally over the finish line. It just depends on who it is. After the checkered flag you see everyone after the top 3 take the flag with a jump or just roll it.

The finish line at Unadilla up until this year I guess is not even a jump. It was just a line in a straight away. I have no idea what or where it is this year.
KAWboy14 wrote:
that was a good answer!
almost as good as no answer. it doesn't depend on who it is, it depends on how far they are ahead of the next guy, period.

actually scott it was noyt a "good" answer...but this guy and you can hang at the next meeting and see who gets to go up or stay here. and why are you here scott? teef has a rockin gig going on at ww.racetime.com
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SXracerguy wrote:
Did they move the finish line this year?
Gravity cavity is finish now. I was always told to push through the finish line but this is moto and crazy things happen. Riders may of needed to be reminded of the possibilities in that situation. I doubt it will be there next year.
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low blood sugar's a bitch!
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change the perspective a bit...If you rolled past the checkers and got landed on by two guys racing behind you because you slowed down you would probably feel like a dumbass and know that you were in the way of the racing action.
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Crash82 7/20/2008 7:23pm
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Man folks race to the line, it ain't hard, i've seen cars, fences, vans, consession stands, overjumps into crowds, all in danger, move to where it's safe before you slow, especially a landing zone! NEVER STOP IN A bLIND LANDING ZONE, ANYTIME! Damn folks really man, is this a joke?
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Yamaha336 wrote:
I can't speculate about the accident. I have no idea where they moved the finish line to and I have no idea what the area the...
I can't speculate about the accident. I have no idea where they moved the finish line to and I have no idea what the area the finish line is in now looks like.

From what everyone is saying I don't see how only one person could be held solely responsible for what happened. You and everyone else on here has seen what goes on after the checkered flag has been waived. We have seen the winner style over, roll over, and jump normally over the finish line. It just depends on who it is. After the checkered flag you see everyone after the top 3 take the flag with a jump or just roll it.

The finish line at Unadilla up until this year I guess is not even a jump. It was just a line in a straight away. I have no idea what or where it is this year.
KAWboy14 wrote:
that was a good answer!
BobbyM wrote:
almost as good as no answer. it doesn't depend on who it is, it depends on how far they are ahead of the next guy, period...
almost as good as no answer. it doesn't depend on who it is, it depends on how far they are ahead of the next guy, period.

actually scott it was noyt a "good" answer...but this guy and you can hang at the next meeting and see who gets to go up or stay here. and why are you here scott? teef has a rockin gig going on at ww.racetime.com
they kicked me outa there....something about my religion!
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SXracerguy 7/20/2008 7:32pm
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Yamaha336 wrote:
I can't speculate about the accident. I have no idea where they moved the finish line to and I have no idea what the area the...
I can't speculate about the accident. I have no idea where they moved the finish line to and I have no idea what the area the finish line is in now looks like.

From what everyone is saying I don't see how only one person could be held solely responsible for what happened. You and everyone else on here has seen what goes on after the checkered flag has been waived. We have seen the winner style over, roll over, and jump normally over the finish line. It just depends on who it is. After the checkered flag you see everyone after the top 3 take the flag with a jump or just roll it.

The finish line at Unadilla up until this year I guess is not even a jump. It was just a line in a straight away. I have no idea what or where it is this year.
KAWboy14 wrote:
that was a good answer!
BobbyM wrote:
almost as good as no answer. it doesn't depend on who it is, it depends on how far they are ahead of the next guy, period...
almost as good as no answer. it doesn't depend on who it is, it depends on how far they are ahead of the next guy, period.

actually scott it was noyt a "good" answer...but this guy and you can hang at the next meeting and see who gets to go up or stay here. and why are you here scott? teef has a rockin gig going on at ww.racetime.com
I think it was a good answer as well. Unless you were actually at the race and at the scene of the accident, how can you rightfully say whose fault it was or was not?
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BobbyM 7/20/2008 7:59pm
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It just depends on who it is.

because this has nothing to do with it...who it is?

good try stefan...lol
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Crash82 7/20/2008 8:15pm
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KAWboy14 wrote:
that was a good answer!
BobbyM wrote:
almost as good as no answer. it doesn't depend on who it is, it depends on how far they are ahead of the next guy, period...
almost as good as no answer. it doesn't depend on who it is, it depends on how far they are ahead of the next guy, period.

actually scott it was noyt a "good" answer...but this guy and you can hang at the next meeting and see who gets to go up or stay here. and why are you here scott? teef has a rockin gig going on at ww.racetime.com
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I think it was a good answer as well. Unless you were actually at the race and at the scene of the accident, how can you...
I think it was a good answer as well. Unless you were actually at the race and at the scene of the accident, how can you rightfully say whose fault it was or was not?
OK 1 more time for those who have no GED, if you stop or slow in a blind landing zone it's your fault. Did you finds the Chicas?

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