Jeff Alessi Asking For $ Questions

Mister Motocross wrote:

We should start a website that tries to find Tony a job. And all this Jeff support money will go exactly where Mike's excess cash went...into...

We should start a website that tries to find Tony a job.

And all this Jeff support money will go exactly where Mike's excess cash went...into the breast enhancement of his girlfriend.

rockcrawlerdude wrote:

LOL

ProMed wrote:

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to...

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to an underfunded MX racer?

ProMed wrote:

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to...

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to an underfunded MX racer?

Yamaha336 wrote:

1) Because a lot of people feel that Jeff put himself in this position by not taking the better business deal and ride for Moto XXX...

1) Because a lot of people feel that Jeff put himself in this position by not taking the better business deal and ride for Moto XXX
2) He was a factory rider for 2 years with KTM. Where is the money?
3) The Alessi's as whole have money and plenty of it. I dont think it would kill them to give up 20,000 for him to finish the season. Wouldn't you do the same for your brother?

ProMed wrote:

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to...

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to an underfunded MX racer?

ProMed wrote:

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to...

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to an underfunded MX racer?

IzziFan wrote:

+1 If you don't like the idea don't donate simple as that.Yamaha336 PLEASE STFU.

Darrell wrote:

I am the person who thought up the idea of creating a site where other Jeff Alessi fans can show their support and if financially able...

I am the person who thought up the idea of creating a site where other Jeff Alessi fans can show their support and if financially able, kick a couple dollars his way to help offset the cost of racing.

I have never met Jeff Alessi. Or Tony or Mike.

But I have followed their racing careers for the last few years and am a 100% fan.

I agree with all of you that it is a shame that any rider that has put in the hard work and dedication Jeff has, should not be making BIG money. But MX is not baseball or one of the traditional sports, so there is not BIG money in the sport.

I do not know what pro racer's make. Have no idea. But I am sure it is much less than all us fans on sideline think. I do not know of any ex-racer retiring to their mansions and living the life of luxury after their careers.

So, like most things we know nothing about...We just make it up and figure they are rich. All athletes are rich. And every person who owns his own business is rich. It is an popular misconception.

But I really have NO IDEA what the finances of the Alessi's are, and unless you are their accountant or banker, you probably don't either... So lets drop that line of thinking...

I am an Alessi fan. They provide me with immeasurable excitement and entertainment following their careers and rooting for them.

Can I put a value on what that is worth to me? No.

But it is worth more to me than the price of a movie ticket to watch somebody, who is probably everything I do not want my grandchildren to be, play act a role to entertain me. It is worth more than 2 packs of cigarettes. More than a case of Pepsi...

So to be able to create a site that gives me and other people, who think like me, an opportunity to show some support and try to give back, I thought would be met with open arms.

I am not bucks up.. The most I could donate to help Jeff or anyone else is like $10 (yep yep.. My cheap ass $10 was the first donation). Not enough for the cost of gas for Jeff's race bike for one weekend.

So alone, my contribution is weak and insignificant.

But I thought if I created a site that let other people like me, help however they can, it would benefit Jeff and just as important, give us the satisfaction of feeling like we made a difference.

So it is not just about Jeff. It is about self satisfaction. I am in my 50's and still remember the highlight of my first race in 1970 was not my results... But getting to "help" Tim Hart by putting a rock behind his Montessa's tire while he waited on the uphill start line at the old Saddleback. That memory is PRICELESS.

So the site is about helping Jeff but it really is so much more.

Not sure if this clears any of this up. The Alessi's like all successful people have their haters and nothing I can do will change that.

But please know Jeff had nothing to do with the site. I don't even think he has seen it.

I read the Alessi newsletter saying Jeff was without a ride, I started working on the site as a fan site. I wrote Tony to tell him what I was doing and asked if it would be OK if I put paypal buttons on the site. He wrote back and said it was OK with him and Jeff. Did Jeff really give his blessing? I don't know if he really understood what I was doing. Hopefully when he gets back from NY, he will be surprised by all the support and love he has got and not focus on the couple people who have no idea what they are talking about and just want to hate.

And to the people who do feel negative about the Fan Supported Team concept, you do not have to check the site out or donate anything.

And if they really feel that passionately about it, rather than spending the time to trying to bash Jeff (who had nothing, NOTHING to do with me making the site) They should use that time and energy supporting their favorite rider, contacting people in the industry to tell them to pay the stars of our sport decent wages or some other way that is productive and useful.

And one last thing, All professional athletes careers are paid by the fans.The traditional method is: Company hires a rider and pays for the races. But they get that money by getting us fans to use their product. So they pay the rider to advertise for them, we buy the product and they give pennies of what we gave them to the athlete. I am just trying to cut out the middle man and put all the money in the racers hand instead of a small portion of the sponsors profits.

Or to put it in street terms... I am cutting out the pimp.. for as in all professional sports, the athlete is just meat to grind up and replace when they are no longer useful.

That's it.. Sorry for such a long comment but I wanted everyone to understand my reason for the site and to get off Jeff's back.

And like I have put on the web site, if someone really thinks they have made the sacrifices and put in the hard work Jeff has and they want to try to create a similar site, drop me a line and I will do what I can to help.

Thanks to all the people who have supported Jeff or the site... And to the couple haters.. Thanks too. It takes both sides to have a meaningful debate or discussion. I think you are wrong on this one but I do appreciate you sharing your views.

Darrell Sutherland
staff@TEAM801.com

Mister Motocross wrote:

We should start a website that tries to find Tony a job. And all this Jeff support money will go exactly where Mike's excess cash went...into...

We should start a website that tries to find Tony a job.

And all this Jeff support money will go exactly where Mike's excess cash went...into the breast enhancement of his girlfriend.

ProMed wrote:

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to...

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to an underfunded MX racer?

Yamaha336 wrote:

1) Because a lot of people feel that Jeff put himself in this position by not taking the better business deal and ride for Moto XXX...

1) Because a lot of people feel that Jeff put himself in this position by not taking the better business deal and ride for Moto XXX
2) He was a factory rider for 2 years with KTM. Where is the money?
3) The Alessi's as whole have money and plenty of it. I dont think it would kill them to give up 20,000 for him to finish the season. Wouldn't you do the same for your brother?

ProMed wrote:

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to...

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to an underfunded MX racer?

IzziFan wrote:

+1 If you don't like the idea don't donate simple as that.Yamaha336 PLEASE STFU.

Trip wrote:

Well that's a great way to look at it. How many people were affected by what Jason Lawrence did? Not one person on here was directly...

Well that's a great way to look at it. How many people were affected by what Jason Lawrence did? Not one person on here was directly hurt by what he did, yet everyone has an opinion. How many people were affected by RC's fuel penalty? A little secret about message boards, people talk and express an opinion on them. Maybe you didn't know? Why not take your own advice and just not respond. If we all took that advice and only responded to things that had an affect on us, what would the message board be?

Maybe you miss the whole point of a message board? There are plenty of riders who need help, yet this guy takes up the cause of a guy with a wealthy family. Just don't get it.

One last thing, do you actually have proof he is underfunded? Do you know what he has in his bank or what his sponsors are paying him?

You may not like Yamaha336, but in this topic he has brought up some good questions.

IzziFan wrote:

+1 If you don't like the idea don't donate simple as that.Yamaha336 PLEASE STFU.

Trip wrote:

Well that's a great way to look at it. How many people were affected by what Jason Lawrence did? Not one person on here was directly...

Well that's a great way to look at it. How many people were affected by what Jason Lawrence did? Not one person on here was directly hurt by what he did, yet everyone has an opinion. How many people were affected by RC's fuel penalty? A little secret about message boards, people talk and express an opinion on them. Maybe you didn't know? Why not take your own advice and just not respond. If we all took that advice and only responded to things that had an affect on us, what would the message board be?

Maybe you miss the whole point of a message board? There are plenty of riders who need help, yet this guy takes up the cause of a guy with a wealthy family. Just don't get it.

One last thing, do you actually have proof he is underfunded? Do you know what he has in his bank or what his sponsors are paying him?

You may not like Yamaha336, but in this topic he has brought up some good questions.

ProMed wrote:

Following along with the same logic, why stop there? There are plenty of people who can't even afford their next meal, much less a new dirt...

Following along with the same logic, why stop there? There are plenty of people who can't even afford their next meal, much less a new dirt bike. What about all those pot-belly kids running around in 3rd world countries?

IMO people can support whomever their favorite riders are. Even though there are always going to be guys who are more needy.

ProMed wrote:

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to...

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to an underfunded MX racer?

IzziFan wrote:

+1 If you don't like the idea don't donate simple as that.Yamaha336 PLEASE STFU.

ProMed wrote:

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to...

Can someone please help me understand why so many supposedly grown men actually give a shit about a website put up to help get support to an underfunded MX racer?

IzziFan wrote:

+1 If you don't like the idea don't donate simple as that.Yamaha336 PLEASE STFU.

Yamaha336 wrote:

If you don't like my opinion, don't read it or go hide somewhere. This is a forum. You don't tell me what I should think or...

If you don't like my opinion, don't read it or go hide somewhere. This is a forum. You don't tell me what I should think or do. You can simply not agree and argue your point. That's how it is done on a forum. If you don't like it, then don't come on here and let yourself get butt hurt.

Trip wrote:

Well that's a great way to look at it. How many people were affected by what Jason Lawrence did? Not one person on here was directly...

Well that's a great way to look at it. How many people were affected by what Jason Lawrence did? Not one person on here was directly hurt by what he did, yet everyone has an opinion. How many people were affected by RC's fuel penalty? A little secret about message boards, people talk and express an opinion on them. Maybe you didn't know? Why not take your own advice and just not respond. If we all took that advice and only responded to things that had an affect on us, what would the message board be?

Maybe you miss the whole point of a message board? There are plenty of riders who need help, yet this guy takes up the cause of a guy with a wealthy family. Just don't get it.

One last thing, do you actually have proof he is underfunded? Do you know what he has in his bank or what his sponsors are paying him?

You may not like Yamaha336, but in this topic he has brought up some good questions.

ProMed wrote:

Following along with the same logic, why stop there? There are plenty of people who can't even afford their next meal, much less a new dirt...

Following along with the same logic, why stop there? There are plenty of people who can't even afford their next meal, much less a new dirt bike. What about all those pot-belly kids running around in 3rd world countries?

IMO people can support whomever their favorite riders are. Even though there are always going to be guys who are more needy.

ACMYERS wrote:

Third world countrys? How about we take care of our own pot-belly kids in America first?

(jump to 4 topic in a topic)

IzziFan wrote:

+1 If you don't like the idea don't donate simple as that.Yamaha336 PLEASE STFU.

Yamaha336 wrote:

If you don't like my opinion, don't read it or go hide somewhere. This is a forum. You don't tell me what I should think or...

If you don't like my opinion, don't read it or go hide somewhere. This is a forum. You don't tell me what I should think or do. You can simply not agree and argue your point. That's how it is done on a forum. If you don't like it, then don't come on here and let yourself get butt hurt.

ProMed wrote:

How do we know this isn't a lie?

Yamaha336 wrote:

If you have to ask if my above post is a lie, I am sure your parents are disappointed that they have a child as mentally...

If you have to ask if my above post is a lie, I am sure your parents are disappointed that they have a child as mentally challenged as you are.

Yamaha336 wrote:

If you have to ask if my above post is a lie, I am sure your parents are disappointed that they have a child as mentally...

If you have to ask if my above post is a lie, I am sure your parents are disappointed that they have a child as mentally challenged as you are.

pistol wrote:

You know, you can be a real jerk sometimes.

Yamaha336 wrote:

If you have to ask if my above post is a lie, I am sure your parents are disappointed that they have a child as mentally...

If you have to ask if my above post is a lie, I am sure your parents are disappointed that they have a child as mentally challenged as you are.

pistol wrote:

You know, you can be a real jerk sometimes.

Yamaha336 wrote:

I am the jerk? What about the guy I was referring to? Why am I the bad guy?

Yamaha336 wrote:

If you have to ask if my above post is a lie, I am sure your parents are disappointed that they have a child as mentally...

If you have to ask if my above post is a lie, I am sure your parents are disappointed that they have a child as mentally challenged as you are.

pistol wrote:

You know, you can be a real jerk sometimes.

Yamaha336 wrote:

If you don't like my opinion, don't read it or go hide somewhere. This is a forum. You don't tell me what I should think or...

If you don't like my opinion, don't read it or go hide somewhere. This is a forum. You don't tell me what I should think or do. You can simply not agree and argue your point. That's how it is done on a forum. If you don't like it, then don't come on here and let yourself get butt hurt.

ProMed wrote:

How do we know this isn't a lie?

Yamaha336 wrote:

If you have to ask if my above post is a lie, I am sure your parents are disappointed that they have a child as mentally...

If you have to ask if my above post is a lie, I am sure your parents are disappointed that they have a child as mentally challenged as you are.

BobbyM wrote:

I think yer parents lied...to you.

BobbyM wrote:

I think yer parents lied...to you.

Yamaha336 wrote:

About what? You ever have a thought of your own on here or do you just run with the pack whom you perceive to be the...

About what? You ever have a thought of your own on here or do you just run with the pack whom you perceive to be the "most popular"? You should really come up for air every once in a while.

BobbyM wrote:

I think yer parents lied...to you.

Yamaha336 wrote:

About what? You ever have a thought of your own on here or do you just run with the pack whom you perceive to be the...

About what? You ever have a thought of your own on here or do you just run with the pack whom you perceive to be the "most popular"? You should really come up for air every once in a while.