Vince Friese: You're Doing It Wrong

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8/13/2012 5:32pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Lou & DL,

Don't dwell on this shit.

It'll sort itself out.
No dwelling for us its all good.
8/13/2012 5:39pm Edited Date/Time 8/13/2012 5:40pm
DL wrote:
I was told today by someone that knows Friese that he has signed with MC for 2013. If it's true then I have lost all respect...
I was told today by someone that knows Friese that he has signed with MC for 2013. If it's true then I have lost all respect for Genova.
Perhaps the best course of action is to contact all of Friese's sponsors and let them know how you feel about his on-track antics.
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8/13/2012 5:42pm
Isn't Friese buying his ride on MC? If so how does one afford this?
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8/13/2012 6:22pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Lou & DL,

Don't dwell on this shit.

It'll sort itself out.
It will when someone goes in and breaks his leg.

The Shop

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8/13/2012 6:53pm
Never heard of Friese, until looking here. Watched the 1st moto at Southwick. He was 37th. I guess he isn't very good. Don't know anything about the guy, but if you're a rider, and racing against him, put him on his ass. Long time ago, many ,more knowledgeable people told us, the less aggressive rider goes down. He doesn't look like he has much of a career anyway. I hope he doesn't hurt anyone, or himself on his way into oblivion.
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8/13/2012 7:25pm
mattbmx63 wrote:
Isn't Friese buying his ride on MC? If so how does one afford this?
Hasnt he bought rides in the past aswell ?
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8/13/2012 7:51pm
DL wrote:
I was told today by someone that knows Friese that he has signed with MC for 2013. If it's true then I have lost all respect...
I was told today by someone that knows Friese that he has signed with MC for 2013. If it's true then I have lost all respect for Genova.
Perhaps the best course of action is to contact all of Friese's sponsors and let them know how you feel about his on-track antics.
i think that if you tattle to the kindergarten teacher she may not let him out for recess as well.

how about this, you let him do the riding, and you do the spectating.

If you have issues with him, buy a pit pass and inform him of how shitty he is like a man- not a sniveling whispering child.


god speed mr friese- keep grinding out that motocross dream.
8/13/2012 9:13pm
DL wrote:
I was told today by someone that knows Friese that he has signed with MC for 2013. If it's true then I have lost all respect...
I was told today by someone that knows Friese that he has signed with MC for 2013. If it's true then I have lost all respect for Genova.
Perhaps the best course of action is to contact all of Friese's sponsors and let them know how you feel about his on-track antics.
willie838 wrote:
i think that if you tattle to the kindergarten teacher she may not let him out for recess as well. how about this, you let him...
i think that if you tattle to the kindergarten teacher she may not let him out for recess as well.

how about this, you let him do the riding, and you do the spectating.

If you have issues with him, buy a pit pass and inform him of how shitty he is like a man- not a sniveling whispering child.


god speed mr friese- keep grinding out that motocross dream.
What a KOOK !!!
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8/13/2012 9:42pm
mx5471 wrote:
Never heard of Friese, until looking here. Watched the 1st moto at Southwick. He was 37th. I guess he isn't very good. Don't know anything about...
Never heard of Friese, until looking here. Watched the 1st moto at Southwick. He was 37th. I guess he isn't very good. Don't know anything about the guy, but if you're a rider, and racing against him, put him on his ass. Long time ago, many ,more knowledgeable people told us, the less aggressive rider goes down. He doesn't look like he has much of a career anyway. I hope he doesn't hurt anyone, or himself on his way into oblivion.
Vince can be a douche' ( on and off the track ).......but that 37th place isn't where his speed really is. He has made a lot of mains and rode inside the top 10-15 at nationals.......he is far from slow. Even guys that can't stand him will agree with that.

BUT.....that isn't the point. Vince has taken the "Aggressive" riding to an all new low and he doesn't care about hurting or ending someone elses career while doing so.

And again....in his defense , he's a great rider........just a fucking asshole.
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8/13/2012 10:48pm
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@JosHill75 To everyone saying Friese should get his card pulled: Rubbings Racing and I wouldn't want to see any action done against him. #tradinpaint
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Some guys are just to nice........... Just like you Mr Scottie.
Hey man, do i know you? You are clearly not posting from where your location is listed, in fact you are just a bit south of me.
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8/14/2012 3:47am
Being an aggressive racer is a must to succeed at this level, but Friese is a bully.. Cruel reality is in order to make a bully wake up @ mature he's gonna need a trip out back the wood shed for an old school bully beat down.. Just has to happen off school property so principle DC doesn't have to handout any suspensions... Hope no more riders are injured due to him but what happens when someone is injured severely?? Past history that's been documented, numerous compliants and requests for punishment... Please get this kid on stricked probation before this sports is tainted by a civil lawsuit when someone is severely injured or their career ended.. Sad It's not about who's complaining anymore, its about the safety of this growing sport..

Anyone who takes down Josh Hill with what he's been through is a clown plain and simple.. Stay classy VF..


Imagine the PR.... Vince Friese will not be racing this weekend due to blurry vision and difficulty breathing through his broken nose.. This is a result of a misunderstanding between "insert rider" over a blatant take out from Friese this past weekend.. Although there was many people present the police were unable to locate any witnesses.. If you have any info contact the local PD at xxx-xxx-xxxx.. Friese plans on being back on the bike as soon as his damaged ego heals.


Regardless of him buying his ride does anyone think Genova likes the press he gets on Friese?? Even if he's a hazardous back marker he draws attention to the MC team.. You no what they say,, any press is good press..
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8/14/2012 5:10am
jeffro503 wrote:
Vince can be a douche' ( on and off the track ).......but that 37th place isn't where his speed really is. He has made a lot...
Vince can be a douche' ( on and off the track ).......but that 37th place isn't where his speed really is. He has made a lot of mains and rode inside the top 10-15 at nationals.......he is far from slow. Even guys that can't stand him will agree with that.

BUT.....that isn't the point. Vince has taken the "Aggressive" riding to an all new low and he doesn't care about hurting or ending someone elses career while doing so.

And again....in his defense , he's a great rider........just a fucking asshole.
If it was just aggressive riding you could brush that off. Alessi races aggressive, defending lines and watching behind him instead of racing forward. But Friese does something that separates himself from everyone who can claim the title "aggressive", he aims for the guy who just passed him with the intention of knocking him down. He will dive down across ruts, chop off corners, even cut the track to get an angle on someone to blind-side them. He has done it his entire career including amateurs. He has been DQed from many an amateur national for overly aggressive riding, a.k.a. just trying to take the dude in front of him out.
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8/14/2012 6:12am
Race officials have spoken to Vince Friese. He was fined at Washougal. They have a close eye on him.

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8/14/2012 7:36am
DC wrote:
Race officials have spoken to Vince Friese. He was fined at Washougal. They have a close eye on him.

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Hey DC,

Glad to hear you chime in and steps are being taken.

Not judging the actions because I know you can't jump in and ban the guy as his first punishment. Unfortunately I think it's going to take more than a fine to correct his actions though. I don't even know that a 2 race suspension would slow him down much.
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8/14/2012 7:57am
jeffro503 wrote:
Vince can be a douche' ( on and off the track ).......but that 37th place isn't where his speed really is. He has made a lot...
Vince can be a douche' ( on and off the track ).......but that 37th place isn't where his speed really is. He has made a lot of mains and rode inside the top 10-15 at nationals.......he is far from slow. Even guys that can't stand him will agree with that.

BUT.....that isn't the point. Vince has taken the "Aggressive" riding to an all new low and he doesn't care about hurting or ending someone elses career while doing so.

And again....in his defense , he's a great rider........just a fucking asshole.
Shawn142 wrote:
If it was just aggressive riding you could brush that off. Alessi races aggressive, defending lines and watching behind him instead of racing forward. But Friese...
If it was just aggressive riding you could brush that off. Alessi races aggressive, defending lines and watching behind him instead of racing forward. But Friese does something that separates himself from everyone who can claim the title "aggressive", he aims for the guy who just passed him with the intention of knocking him down. He will dive down across ruts, chop off corners, even cut the track to get an angle on someone to blind-side them. He has done it his entire career including amateurs. He has been DQed from many an amateur national for overly aggressive riding, a.k.a. just trying to take the dude in front of him out.
Oh believe me Shawn......I know. I wasn't sticking up for his antics......just putting up some info on his speed. I agree 100% on what you just said.
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8/14/2012 8:36am Edited Date/Time 8/14/2012 8:37am
DC wrote:
Race officials have spoken to Vince Friese. He was fined at Washougal. They have a close eye on him.

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DC:

While it is nice to know that the Race Officials have fined VF ( $500), and are keeping an eye on him, it does appear that more needs to be done.

A mere $500 fine to the MotoConcepts team has as much meaning as breaking one of VF's boot buckles. Whereas to a guy like Peick, that same fine is like making him ride without handle bars.

VF has been playing this "game" with all of the riders on the track, with more in particular than others. He has broken fan's jaws, etc. He should have been fined on, at the very least, a sliding scale. This guy is a menace to all riders.

The next time your Race Officials' "eyes" see him take out another racer , they should suspend him from racing. Period. End Done.
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8/14/2012 12:09pm
downandup wrote:
DC: While it is nice to know that the Race Officials have fined VF ( $500), and are keeping an eye on him, it does appear...
DC:

While it is nice to know that the Race Officials have fined VF ( $500), and are keeping an eye on him, it does appear that more needs to be done.

A mere $500 fine to the MotoConcepts team has as much meaning as breaking one of VF's boot buckles. Whereas to a guy like Peick, that same fine is like making him ride without handle bars.

VF has been playing this "game" with all of the riders on the track, with more in particular than others. He has broken fan's jaws, etc. He should have been fined on, at the very least, a sliding scale. This guy is a menace to all riders.

The next time your Race Officials' "eyes" see him take out another racer , they should suspend him from racing. Period. End Done.
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8/14/2012 12:23pm
Guy:

You are going a bit over the top with that pic, aren't you? Kind of like VF himself does.

I am just saying that VF should be suspended. One race!!! He needs to get what he gives out. I am not advocating for suspending him a year or taking away his license. A $500 fine does NOTHING to prevent him from taking out riders again.
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8/14/2012 12:25pm Edited Date/Time 8/14/2012 12:29pm
downandup wrote:
Guy: You are going a bit over the top with that pic, aren't you? Kind of like VF himself does. I am just saying that VF...
Guy:

You are going a bit over the top with that pic, aren't you? Kind of like VF himself does.

I am just saying that VF should be suspended. One race!!! He needs to get what he gives out. I am not advocating for suspending him a year or taking away his license. A $500 fine does NOTHING to prevent him from taking out riders again.
No more over the top than your previous post. And what's quoted here sounds nothing like your previous post. That sounded like you wanted him to walk the plank.

My guess is that the next fine would be more than $500. And the one after that would be more (or of a more severe variety) than the previous one. As one official told me, fines are usually meant to get a rider's attention, and get the behavior to change. If money doesn't do it, then they'll find something that does.
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8/14/2012 12:32pm
downandup wrote:
DC: While it is nice to know that the Race Officials have fined VF ( $500), and are keeping an eye on him, it does appear...
DC:

While it is nice to know that the Race Officials have fined VF ( $500), and are keeping an eye on him, it does appear that more needs to be done.

A mere $500 fine to the MotoConcepts team has as much meaning as breaking one of VF's boot buckles. Whereas to a guy like Peick, that same fine is like making him ride without handle bars.

VF has been playing this "game" with all of the riders on the track, with more in particular than others. He has broken fan's jaws, etc. He should have been fined on, at the very least, a sliding scale. This guy is a menace to all riders.

The next time your Race Officials' "eyes" see him take out another racer , they should suspend him from racing. Period. End Done.
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It seems to me that 'lynch mobs' are usually averted as well as thwarted by police/judicial diligence. Which for my addled head is the issue in this case. I don't have have a dog in this fight, know nothing of nothing, except that I am a bit confused on who is the sheriff and judge in this current iteration of SX and MX. I don't know who these 'race officials' DC mentions are. Does DC use that term because, as a true fan, I'm supposed to know, or does he use it to keep my understanding a little cloudy? I'm just a fan, holding no torch, but concerned that the sport is a healthy one.
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8/14/2012 12:38pm
downandup wrote:
Guy: You are going a bit over the top with that pic, aren't you? Kind of like VF himself does. I am just saying that VF...
Guy:

You are going a bit over the top with that pic, aren't you? Kind of like VF himself does.

I am just saying that VF should be suspended. One race!!! He needs to get what he gives out. I am not advocating for suspending him a year or taking away his license. A $500 fine does NOTHING to prevent him from taking out riders again.
GuyB wrote:
No more over the top than your previous post. And what's quoted here sounds nothing like your previous post. That sounded like you wanted him to...
No more over the top than your previous post. And what's quoted here sounds nothing like your previous post. That sounded like you wanted him to walk the plank.

My guess is that the next fine would be more than $500. And the one after that would be more (or of a more severe variety) than the previous one. As one official told me, fines are usually meant to get a rider's attention, and get the behavior to change. If money doesn't do it, then they'll find something that does.
My previous post was not over the top at all. Maybe it was just the part at the end?

Whe I wrote Period End. Done I meant end of story. Just suspend him for a race. Do something bigger other than $$$$. Do something to him that means something to him.
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8/15/2012 9:10am
DC wrote:
Race officials have spoken to Vince Friese. He was fined at Washougal. They have a close eye on him.

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