Stewart out of Millville, Washougal

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7/12/2012 5:27pm
"You ever see Christophe Pourcel on a good day? "

Yup....and JMB also. Used to always consider JMB most talented. Then I saw JS ride. Is JS the best at handling pressure, is JS the best at line selection, is JS the best at passing......NO, NO, and NO.

BUT.....for pure unadulterated speed on a dirt scoot there has never been any better.
7/12/2012 5:32pm
I would probably throw KDub in the mix for most talented rider. Ricky said it himself that Windham its the most talented man he has seen throw a leg over a bike.
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7/12/2012 5:41pm
So what's the injury? Broke wrist, deep bruise, blisters, broke hand? What is it? Did I miss anything after thunder valley? Did they say what exactly the injury was?
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7/12/2012 5:47pm
Ah crap! Was really hoping to see Stewart vs Dungey at washougal live. But if his wrist needs more healing.....then you have to do what is best. As a fan I''d love to see him race , but on the flip side I would rather see him healthy and come back strong.

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7/12/2012 6:18pm
Had a good week testing Mike Webb, says, feels good he says, expects to come back as he was, looking to go 1-1 again. Did a lot of laps the week before says Mike Webb, time off the bike won't hurt him. The guy still finished 3rd in the 2nd moto after being off the bike for the last number of weeks, so I would say that was pretty good.

Dungey put it to him, and I think he severely underestimated both his speed and determination. I think it deflated him and I don't think he wants to deal with that again this weekend. And he is going to wait until Southwick to come back? Not a great track to come back to even as much as he tears in the sand. I dunno man, something smells rotten in the state of Denmark here. I was truly hoping he would show up at Millville, throw down the best he could, and keep racing as long as there is nothing serious with his wrist. It sure didn't seem like it based on this video and what was said. Part time racer, part time results. Sorry, just my observation and opinion. I know he isn't getting paid from Suzuki, but he still gets paid to wear gear, he still gets paid plenty from his personal sponsors, no?

Lets start thinking outside the box for the MXON. Put Barcia on the big bike with Dungey and let Bagget run wild.
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7/12/2012 6:19pm
There are some lousy excuses for human beings on this site.
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7/12/2012 6:26pm Edited Date/Time 7/13/2012 3:37pm
you know what though.......all the speculation and all the bullshit would stop if the team...JS 7 and Suzuki........told the fans what the fuk is really going on..........

know that all the guys want to keep comp guessing............but when lebron tweaks an ankle there is shit the next 3 days about what that means for his next game..........
7/12/2012 6:49pm
Stewart needs to take a lesson from Ryan Hughes. Didn't that guy ride a 2nd moto after breaking his leg in the first one?
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7/12/2012 7:02pm
It amazes me that people here on vital know the details of a rider like Stewart's contract.
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7/12/2012 7:06pm
Stewart needs to take a lesson from Ryan Hughes. Didn't that guy ride a 2nd moto after breaking his leg in the first one?
And that is smart why? Suzuki hired him for 2013, not the summer, right?
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I'm not being disrespectful at all when I ask you this question FTE, b/c you have always had great integrity on this and any other moto board, but don't you think the Stewart camp brings all of these questions into play? There was no indication throughout that video that his wrist was a problem at all-none. And now? That is the maddeningly consistent thing about JS and his camp-the messages are so contradictory and people get frustrated by it-I know I do. I am not hating on the guy.
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7/12/2012 7:23pm
So Stewart "looked" one way on Saturday and now on Thursday, his team announces that all is not well and he still needs to heal. Some of you are suggesting they're being dishonest... what would be the point of that?
7/12/2012 7:27pm
Stewart needs to take a lesson from Ryan Hughes. Didn't that guy ride a 2nd moto after breaking his leg in the first one?
And that is smart why? Suzuki hired him for 2013, not the summer, right?
Because there is a long break between outdoors and Supercross for healing. Because if he rode through the pain more often he might win more championships. Because he has other sponsors to represent besides Suzuki. And because he needs to grow a sack.
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7/12/2012 7:34pm
No, I don't the Stewart camp brought this into play. I think people's jackass attitudes toward him brought it into play. If he said his wrist was f'ed up, the same people shitting on him here would say he's making excuses. But he'll get shit on for not saying anything and giving it a try, which he's now done twice.

Is there really any doubt he tweaked his wrist at Colorado? Or that it's an issue now? Do you really need him to say that now (or, to the jackasses, make excuses)? You think he's got the same ability to go fast now without hindrance that he had when he handled Dugey for four straight motos? Seriously? He's already had a broken navicular bone in his wrist earlier in his career and dealt with the time it took to come back. If he's dinged, and he feels it's not ready, why ride? He's definitely pushed through pain before when there was a point to it; he gutted it out in serious pain at Colorado a few years ago when he was preserving points.

The fact is there are a class of assclowns who want him to fail and can't wait to pile on, either because they don't like him for some dumbass reason or because they are sick of people who think he's immortal. Heaven forbid anyone should give the cat the benefit of the doubt based on the facts.
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7/12/2012 7:39pm Edited Date/Time 7/12/2012 7:39pm
Stewart needs to take a lesson from Ryan Hughes. Didn't that guy ride a 2nd moto after breaking his leg in the first one?
And that is smart why? Suzuki hired him for 2013, not the summer, right?
Because there is a long break between outdoors and Supercross for healing. Because if he rode through the pain more often he might win more championships...
Because there is a long break between outdoors and Supercross for healing. Because if he rode through the pain more often he might win more championships. Because he has other sponsors to represent besides Suzuki. And because he needs to grow a sack.
You're nuts. Go back to 06 and 07 and tell me the guy hasn't ridden through pain. The guy has probably gotten up and kept riding after big hits more than anyone out there.

He's already come through a wrist injury that has put people out of the sport, and you're going to second guess him on whether he feels its better or better not to ride with that right now? Do you realize how lost in the bullshit fantasy work of the internet that makes you look?
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7/12/2012 7:39pm
No, I don't the Stewart camp brought this into play. I think people's jackass attitudes toward him brought it into play. If he said his wrist...
No, I don't the Stewart camp brought this into play. I think people's jackass attitudes toward him brought it into play. If he said his wrist was f'ed up, the same people shitting on him here would say he's making excuses. But he'll get shit on for not saying anything and giving it a try, which he's now done twice.

Is there really any doubt he tweaked his wrist at Colorado? Or that it's an issue now? Do you really need him to say that now (or, to the jackasses, make excuses)? You think he's got the same ability to go fast now without hindrance that he had when he handled Dugey for four straight motos? Seriously? He's already had a broken navicular bone in his wrist earlier in his career and dealt with the time it took to come back. If he's dinged, and he feels it's not ready, why ride? He's definitely pushed through pain before when there was a point to it; he gutted it out in serious pain at Colorado a few years ago when he was preserving points.

The fact is there are a class of assclowns who want him to fail and can't wait to pile on, either because they don't like him for some dumbass reason or because they are sick of people who think he's immortal. Heaven forbid anyone should give the cat the benefit of the doubt based on the facts.
Everyone here has an agenda. Either they love or hate him and/or his fans. It will NEVER end.
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7/12/2012 7:41pm
James Stewart‏@js7

Sucks 2 be on the sidelines again but it's better then being on the sidelines 4 the rest of my life bc I won't listen 2 the ppl around me.



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7/12/2012 7:42pm Edited Date/Time 7/12/2012 7:42pm
I think the guy is the fastest on a given day or when on a winning streak, but what he failed to realize after missing a few rounds; the competition got more seat time and better dialed with their bikes, while gaining confidence and further conditioning. For him to say before the race that it would great to go 1:1, that tells me he severally underestimated a few things.

There's no doubt he'll be back on top, but I agree with most here that he sure is running low on excuses.

He is starting to remind me of Mike Tyson. He too used to be on top, then one day it all started to change and he just couldn't deal with being beat and started behaving weird out of pure frustration...Like biting someone's ear. Sometime you just have to suck it up and keep making progress.

I AM glad that he finished the 2nd moto and did much better and basically cruised to 3rd place. His problem is they give him too much flexibility with his contract so he can more or less decide on whim if he's up for racing or not.

Again - he needs to suck up like the rest of the guys out there. He eluded to this after the first moto, but electing not to race for a few rounds is just sad....Sad for him and sad for the sport. I was a supported, but I'm jumping on the bandwagon at this stage, mostly do to his actions and non-actions at this stage.
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7/12/2012 7:45pm Edited Date/Time 7/12/2012 7:46pm
I think the guy is the fastest on a given day or when on a winning streak, but what he failed to realize after missing a...
I think the guy is the fastest on a given day or when on a winning streak, but what he failed to realize after missing a few rounds; the competition got more seat time and better dialed with their bikes, while gaining confidence and further conditioning. For him to say before the race that it would great to go 1:1, that tells me he severally underestimated a few things.

There's no doubt he'll be back on top, but I agree with most here that he sure is running low on excuses.

He is starting to remind me of Mike Tyson. He too used to be on top, then one day it all started to change and he just couldn't deal with being beat and started behaving weird out of pure frustration...Like biting someone's ear. Sometime you just have to suck it up and keep making progress.

I AM glad that he finished the 2nd moto and did much better and basically cruised to 3rd place. His problem is they give him too much flexibility with his contract so he can more or less decide on whim if he's up for racing or not.

Again - he needs to suck up like the rest of the guys out there. He eluded to this after the first moto, but electing not to race for a few rounds is just sad....Sad for him and sad for the sport. I was a supported, but I'm jumping on the bandwagon at this stage, mostly do to his actions and non-actions at this stage.
"I AM glad that he finished the 2nd moto and did much better and basically cruised to 3rd place. His problem is they give him too much flexibility with his contract so he can more or less decide on whim if he's up for racing or not."

You realize he's not contracted to race this summer, right?
7/12/2012 7:48pm
No, I don't the Stewart camp brought this into play. I think people's jackass attitudes toward him brought it into play. If he said his wrist...
No, I don't the Stewart camp brought this into play. I think people's jackass attitudes toward him brought it into play. If he said his wrist was f'ed up, the same people shitting on him here would say he's making excuses. But he'll get shit on for not saying anything and giving it a try, which he's now done twice.

Is there really any doubt he tweaked his wrist at Colorado? Or that it's an issue now? Do you really need him to say that now (or, to the jackasses, make excuses)? You think he's got the same ability to go fast now without hindrance that he had when he handled Dugey for four straight motos? Seriously? He's already had a broken navicular bone in his wrist earlier in his career and dealt with the time it took to come back. If he's dinged, and he feels it's not ready, why ride? He's definitely pushed through pain before when there was a point to it; he gutted it out in serious pain at Colorado a few years ago when he was preserving points.

The fact is there are a class of assclowns who want him to fail and can't wait to pile on, either because they don't like him for some dumbass reason or because they are sick of people who think he's immortal. Heaven forbid anyone should give the cat the benefit of the doubt based on the facts.
People have heard this exact same crap countless times man. That's why they don't give him the benefit of the doubt. Go watch the video of him at Red Bud before the race. He was talking about going 1-1 and how great the riding was the week before. He said he was 100% and ready to battle. Pushed through the pain my ass. He didn't have an injury until he got demoralized. If it wasn't for that video I would be on your side man but I can't deny what he said and what I saw.
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7/12/2012 7:48pm
I think the guy is the fastest on a given day or when on a winning streak, but what he failed to realize after missing a...
I think the guy is the fastest on a given day or when on a winning streak, but what he failed to realize after missing a few rounds; the competition got more seat time and better dialed with their bikes, while gaining confidence and further conditioning. For him to say before the race that it would great to go 1:1, that tells me he severally underestimated a few things.

There's no doubt he'll be back on top, but I agree with most here that he sure is running low on excuses.

He is starting to remind me of Mike Tyson. He too used to be on top, then one day it all started to change and he just couldn't deal with being beat and started behaving weird out of pure frustration...Like biting someone's ear. Sometime you just have to suck it up and keep making progress.

I AM glad that he finished the 2nd moto and did much better and basically cruised to 3rd place. His problem is they give him too much flexibility with his contract so he can more or less decide on whim if he's up for racing or not.

Again - he needs to suck up like the rest of the guys out there. He eluded to this after the first moto, but electing not to race for a few rounds is just sad....Sad for him and sad for the sport. I was a supported, but I'm jumping on the bandwagon at this stage, mostly do to his actions and non-actions at this stage.
[b]"I AM glad that he finished the 2nd moto and did much better and basically cruised to 3rd place. His problem is they give him too...
"I AM glad that he finished the 2nd moto and did much better and basically cruised to 3rd place. His problem is they give him too much flexibility with his contract so he can more or less decide on whim if he's up for racing or not."

You realize he's not contracted to race this summer, right?
Yes...But there's still expectations, eh?

Do you think that Suzuki has no expectations and aren't spending money on his team to supports his efforts? Contract or not, there's a lot of ppl still involved to make it all happen and carry a paycheck.
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7/12/2012 7:51pm
No, I don't the Stewart camp brought this into play. I think people's jackass attitudes toward him brought it into play. If he said his wrist...
No, I don't the Stewart camp brought this into play. I think people's jackass attitudes toward him brought it into play. If he said his wrist was f'ed up, the same people shitting on him here would say he's making excuses. But he'll get shit on for not saying anything and giving it a try, which he's now done twice.

Is there really any doubt he tweaked his wrist at Colorado? Or that it's an issue now? Do you really need him to say that now (or, to the jackasses, make excuses)? You think he's got the same ability to go fast now without hindrance that he had when he handled Dugey for four straight motos? Seriously? He's already had a broken navicular bone in his wrist earlier in his career and dealt with the time it took to come back. If he's dinged, and he feels it's not ready, why ride? He's definitely pushed through pain before when there was a point to it; he gutted it out in serious pain at Colorado a few years ago when he was preserving points.

The fact is there are a class of assclowns who want him to fail and can't wait to pile on, either because they don't like him for some dumbass reason or because they are sick of people who think he's immortal. Heaven forbid anyone should give the cat the benefit of the doubt based on the facts.
People have heard this exact same crap countless times man. That's why they don't give him the benefit of the doubt. Go watch the video of...
People have heard this exact same crap countless times man. That's why they don't give him the benefit of the doubt. Go watch the video of him at Red Bud before the race. He was talking about going 1-1 and how great the riding was the week before. He said he was 100% and ready to battle. Pushed through the pain my ass. He didn't have an injury until he got demoralized. If it wasn't for that video I would be on your side man but I can't deny what he said and what I saw.
I with you on this one bud. I've lost the respect in all honesty. He will find ways to look for an out...Contract or not, either race or stay away...This yo-yo week by week thing (injuries I get), but he said he was he ready...His words...Maybe he should have saved the injury excuse for another week until he raced Redbud...That I could have bought.

The "strategy" is crumbling I have to admit.
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7/12/2012 8:14pm
James needs to race to get back into 'race shape'. While understandably disappointed (even embarrassed) with the way he was dominated at Red Bud, he's not going to get back up to speed by taking another two weeks off to go practice somewhere. It's not possible to practice your way into race shape ... .

James is also falling behind in bike set up. Dungey's KTM looked like it handled better than Dungey's RMZ from a year earlier ... while James' bike looked like its set up had gone backwards.

Common James, the sport needs you ...
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7/12/2012 8:26pm
JS7 got smoked by RD5 and MA800...that's why he won't be out there. It will also happen at the Wick...

JS7 won't finish both motos...
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7/12/2012 8:28pm
There are some lousy excuses for human beings on this site.
Most are extreme fanboys of other riders that you can find in their avatar, and they think putting a rider down makes "their" rider look better.

The rest Guyb said it best in my sig.
7/12/2012 9:03pm
No, I don't the Stewart camp brought this into play. I think people's jackass attitudes toward him brought it into play. If he said his wrist...
No, I don't the Stewart camp brought this into play. I think people's jackass attitudes toward him brought it into play. If he said his wrist was f'ed up, the same people shitting on him here would say he's making excuses. But he'll get shit on for not saying anything and giving it a try, which he's now done twice.

Is there really any doubt he tweaked his wrist at Colorado? Or that it's an issue now? Do you really need him to say that now (or, to the jackasses, make excuses)? You think he's got the same ability to go fast now without hindrance that he had when he handled Dugey for four straight motos? Seriously? He's already had a broken navicular bone in his wrist earlier in his career and dealt with the time it took to come back. If he's dinged, and he feels it's not ready, why ride? He's definitely pushed through pain before when there was a point to it; he gutted it out in serious pain at Colorado a few years ago when he was preserving points.

The fact is there are a class of assclowns who want him to fail and can't wait to pile on, either because they don't like him for some dumbass reason or because they are sick of people who think he's immortal. Heaven forbid anyone should give the cat the benefit of the doubt based on the facts.
People have heard this exact same crap countless times man. That's why they don't give him the benefit of the doubt. Go watch the video of...
People have heard this exact same crap countless times man. That's why they don't give him the benefit of the doubt. Go watch the video of him at Red Bud before the race. He was talking about going 1-1 and how great the riding was the week before. He said he was 100% and ready to battle. Pushed through the pain my ass. He didn't have an injury until he got demoralized. If it wasn't for that video I would be on your side man but I can't deny what he said and what I saw.
You do realize that the top dogs in ANY sport go for the gusto. Did you want him to say that his week prior sucked and he didn't think he would be able to finish on the podium? Demoralized and quit? That is your line huh? Why didn't he pack it in after the 1st moto last Saturday? Some of you have such hatred that it makes you look really fucking ignorant. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt.
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7/12/2012 9:04pm
Why is Stewart "fans" most concerned about him not riding?
7/12/2012 9:15pm
No, I don't the Stewart camp brought this into play. I think people's jackass attitudes toward him brought it into play. If he said his wrist...
No, I don't the Stewart camp brought this into play. I think people's jackass attitudes toward him brought it into play. If he said his wrist was f'ed up, the same people shitting on him here would say he's making excuses. But he'll get shit on for not saying anything and giving it a try, which he's now done twice.

Is there really any doubt he tweaked his wrist at Colorado? Or that it's an issue now? Do you really need him to say that now (or, to the jackasses, make excuses)? You think he's got the same ability to go fast now without hindrance that he had when he handled Dugey for four straight motos? Seriously? He's already had a broken navicular bone in his wrist earlier in his career and dealt with the time it took to come back. If he's dinged, and he feels it's not ready, why ride? He's definitely pushed through pain before when there was a point to it; he gutted it out in serious pain at Colorado a few years ago when he was preserving points.

The fact is there are a class of assclowns who want him to fail and can't wait to pile on, either because they don't like him for some dumbass reason or because they are sick of people who think he's immortal. Heaven forbid anyone should give the cat the benefit of the doubt based on the facts.
People have heard this exact same crap countless times man. That's why they don't give him the benefit of the doubt. Go watch the video of...
People have heard this exact same crap countless times man. That's why they don't give him the benefit of the doubt. Go watch the video of him at Red Bud before the race. He was talking about going 1-1 and how great the riding was the week before. He said he was 100% and ready to battle. Pushed through the pain my ass. He didn't have an injury until he got demoralized. If it wasn't for that video I would be on your side man but I can't deny what he said and what I saw.
You do realize that the top dogs in ANY sport go for the gusto. Did you want him to say that his week prior sucked and...
You do realize that the top dogs in ANY sport go for the gusto. Did you want him to say that his week prior sucked and he didn't think he would be able to finish on the podium? Demoralized and quit? That is your line huh? Why didn't he pack it in after the 1st moto last Saturday? Some of you have such hatred that it makes you look really fucking ignorant. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt.
If he had said something more reasonable like "It's the first race back so we are shooting to get a solid podium finish today" you may have a point. But that's not what he said and you have no point. And since you started the personal insults maybe I should add that many people's blind love makes them ignorant and irrational and you are no different. I brought up facts and quotes, you wrote a paragraph of bullshit.
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7/12/2012 9:38pm
Its a shame.He used to be a great rider.At the beginning of the season he claimed he was Just "riding for fun".I can relate to that because I also race for the fun of it and I have raced with injurys many,many times...Just for fun. Its not as fun but it beats not racing. So I cant imagine being paid (by Sponsers) and having a factory bike and mechanic and opting not to race ,unless I was mortally wounded or something.So you know what...F%$k him. There are many other riders with more character then the FMOP,They just need to step up thier game to keep up to the Dunge and KTM.

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