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Renner153 7/1/2012 3:55pm
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Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is...
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is the point. The danger to fun factor is way off on that stunt. TOTALLY lame, I'd be embarassed to say I even performed in that side show.
Hahahahahaha yea ok bud. When you lose enough weight to get off the couch and an lift your leg over leg over a bike I'll personally take you to let you jump one. Can guarantee you wont even jump the thing let alone that high
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PFitzG38 wrote:
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is...
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is the point. The danger to fun factor is way off on that stunt. TOTALLY lame, I'd be embarassed to say I even performed in that side show.
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Hahahahahaha yea ok bud. When you lose enough weight to get off the couch and an lift your leg over leg over a bike I'll personally...
Hahahahahaha yea ok bud. When you lose enough weight to get off the couch and an lift your leg over leg over a bike I'll personally take you to let you jump one. Can guarantee you wont even jump the thing let alone that high
Yep, when a guy like Pastrana has to leave the booth because he cant watch and MC gets sweaty palms watching, you know it's some serious shit.
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PFitzG38 7/1/2012 4:51pm
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PFitzG38 wrote:
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is...
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is the point. The danger to fun factor is way off on that stunt. TOTALLY lame, I'd be embarassed to say I even performed in that side show.
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Hahahahahaha yea ok bud. When you lose enough weight to get off the couch and an lift your leg over leg over a bike I'll personally...
Hahahahahaha yea ok bud. When you lose enough weight to get off the couch and an lift your leg over leg over a bike I'll personally take you to let you jump one. Can guarantee you wont even jump the thing let alone that high
It's just my opinion and I know a lot of peeps would disagree, just dosn't look too difficult to launch a vert dirt hit, pancake over the pole and ruin your knees and back. Not like any joe schmoe could do it - I think I said "half skilled 909er" thats not too cool and could be construed as derogatory I guess, lets just say your average intermediate MXer - but why would he, it dosn't look fun.....of course, I know if anyone gets invited who's going to turn down a chance to get your brand out there. Actually, I'm off the couch right now, but ready to get back on it as I've been training my ass off the last 3 months to race Mammoth where I unfortunatly farmed it last weekend in the 50+ class with a 15, 2 on the 2 days for 7th OA; but I get where your coming from. I would also love to have someone who knows what there doing show me how to hit a ramp into a pit and maybe learn a heel clicker, that would be cool to throw across the finish line, but you couldn't pay me to hit a step up though. Your knees and back only have so many moguls and cliff drops in skiing and only so many over jumps and whoops in moto to waste them on silly step up type stunts. It's all about the fun to danger ratio/factor and making sure there is a nice tranny when going big. Step up meets none of those requirements. Like I said I know where your coming from, but you'll learn as you get older.
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PFitzG38 7/1/2012 4:52pm
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Yep, when a guy like Pastrana has to leave the booth because he cant watch and MC gets sweaty palms watching, you know it's some serious...
Yep, when a guy like Pastrana has to leave the booth because he cant watch and MC gets sweaty palms watching, you know it's some serious shit.
LOL. Yeah, I guess that pretty much proves my point!!

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machine 7/1/2012 5:31pm
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Yep, when a guy like Pastrana has to leave the booth because he cant watch and MC gets sweaty palms watching, you know it's some serious...
Yep, when a guy like Pastrana has to leave the booth because he cant watch and MC gets sweaty palms watching, you know it's some serious shit.
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LOL. Yeah, I guess that pretty much proves my point!!
I don't really have a dog in the fight, because the only time I watch anything FMX related is the X games, but I do respect their skills. It's a different skill set then ours, but skill non the less. To be able to get the bike level again while getting over the bar at that height ,does take skill, you can't deny that.

The rest is a mind set that i'm going to trash my body to please the crowd. That takes something that I'm unwilling to do.
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moto431 7/1/2012 5:40pm
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Even though the landings looked like they hurt, thats what those guys do for a living. They get paid to put on shows for us to watch. Guys have paid the unltimate price in FMX (or riding dirt bikes for that matter) because they choose to do what they love. If the average rider could do that kind of stuff im pretty sure he would, and who are we (the average riders) to judge
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Renner153 7/1/2012 5:58pm
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PFitzG38 wrote:
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is...
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is the point. The danger to fun factor is way off on that stunt. TOTALLY lame, I'd be embarassed to say I even performed in that side show.
Renner153 wrote:
Hahahahahaha yea ok bud. When you lose enough weight to get off the couch and an lift your leg over leg over a bike I'll personally...
Hahahahahaha yea ok bud. When you lose enough weight to get off the couch and an lift your leg over leg over a bike I'll personally take you to let you jump one. Can guarantee you wont even jump the thing let alone that high
PFitzG38 wrote:
It's just my opinion and I know a lot of peeps would disagree, just dosn't look too difficult to launch a vert dirt hit, pancake over...
It's just my opinion and I know a lot of peeps would disagree, just dosn't look too difficult to launch a vert dirt hit, pancake over the pole and ruin your knees and back. Not like any joe schmoe could do it - I think I said "half skilled 909er" thats not too cool and could be construed as derogatory I guess, lets just say your average intermediate MXer - but why would he, it dosn't look fun.....of course, I know if anyone gets invited who's going to turn down a chance to get your brand out there. Actually, I'm off the couch right now, but ready to get back on it as I've been training my ass off the last 3 months to race Mammoth where I unfortunatly farmed it last weekend in the 50+ class with a 15, 2 on the 2 days for 7th OA; but I get where your coming from. I would also love to have someone who knows what there doing show me how to hit a ramp into a pit and maybe learn a heel clicker, that would be cool to throw across the finish line, but you couldn't pay me to hit a step up though. Your knees and back only have so many moguls and cliff drops in skiing and only so many over jumps and whoops in moto to waste them on silly step up type stunts. It's all about the fun to danger ratio/factor and making sure there is a nice tranny when going big. Step up meets none of those requirements. Like I said I know where your coming from, but you'll learn as you get older.
If its so easy, why did the GOAT of mx quit at it after he fell? If it requires no skill then why did past sx winners get knocked out? And a dude 10x gnarlier than you wad his brains out and break a leg and ankle doing it? I'm guessing all that was just for the fans? Yea highly doubt that. Like I said I will personally get you on a step up ramp and all you have to do is jump it, but I'm 99.9999999% sure you won't even think about doing it. I qualified for Loretta's in 250a this year, so I have some skill on a dirtbike and I will not hit one. The "half-skilled 909er" would end up flat on his back at the bottom of the jump from looping it out. Trust me I know what these things are like, since my brother just won the gold in step up at xgames this year. You probably think a double backflip is probably easy since some random farm dude by the name of Scott Murray has landed a few don't you?
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TankSlapper 7/1/2012 6:04pm
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PFitzG38 wrote:
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is...
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is the point. The danger to fun factor is way off on that stunt. TOTALLY lame, I'd be embarassed to say I even performed in that side show.
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Hahahahahaha yea ok bud. When you lose enough weight to get off the couch and an lift your leg over leg over a bike I'll personally...
Hahahahahaha yea ok bud. When you lose enough weight to get off the couch and an lift your leg over leg over a bike I'll personally take you to let you jump one. Can guarantee you wont even jump the thing let alone that high
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dboivin 7/1/2012 6:31pm
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thank you, this was my original point. had nothing to do with length of season but the invent of technology. things change and records get beat. still respect teh original guys for doing it the hard way.
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PFitzG38 7/1/2012 10:46pm
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Renner153 wrote:
If its so easy, why did the GOAT of mx quit at it after he fell? If it requires no skill then why did past sx...
If its so easy, why did the GOAT of mx quit at it after he fell? If it requires no skill then why did past sx winners get knocked out? And a dude 10x gnarlier than you wad his brains out and break a leg and ankle doing it? I'm guessing all that was just for the fans? Yea highly doubt that. Like I said I will personally get you on a step up ramp and all you have to do is jump it, but I'm 99.9999999% sure you won't even think about doing it. I qualified for Loretta's in 250a this year, so I have some skill on a dirtbike and I will not hit one. The "half-skilled 909er" would end up flat on his back at the bottom of the jump from looping it out. Trust me I know what these things are like, since my brother just won the gold in step up at xgames this year. You probably think a double backflip is probably easy since some random farm dude by the name of Scott Murray has landed a few don't you?
No disrespect and again its just my opinion, but I think you kind of proved my point, and yeah I think that was exactly why those people tried and / or wadded themselves - for the fans.....and glory. I don't think the reason the GOAT and the rest of the people you alluded to quit doing step up is because it's too hard; I think it's because the fun to danger ratio is out of whack. I mean how much fun can hucking yourself for a split second be? Looks like you just need to have the balls to do it which is kinda what that Murray cat has going for him. I mean your bro has to have more fun free riding with his buddies, hittn' his self designed ramps or chasing you around a moto track than huckn his meat for ESPN gold. I hope he didn't tweak himself too bad and no, like I said; I would never think about hitting a step up they way they are configured today. I also know your family is pure moto, have been noticing your results and think it's cool your carrying on the name. I have always put your bro in that rare breed of freestyle pioneers that have carved out a niche by being smart businessman, great showman with mad bike skills who are typically ex-racers.
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PFitzG38 wrote:
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is...
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is the point. The danger to fun factor is way off on that stunt. TOTALLY lame, I'd be embarassed to say I even performed in that side show.
nigga you trollin
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Old Mate 7/2/2012 2:54am
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crashnburn11 wrote:
all I know is that was the scariest step up competition ever
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For sure. I talked to Ronnie before the contest and he said that they (ESPN) wanted a record height, and had made it a lot taller...
For sure. I talked to Ronnie before the contest and he said that they (ESPN) wanted a record height, and had made it a lot taller than in the past. They got a record, but they also found the limit tonight. Not of how high you can go, but of how hard you can land. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Renner, Buyten, and Deegan all had injuries.
Why is the fall to the downramp so far? Couldnt the down ranp be 10ft higher or more than the upramp?
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zookrider62! 7/2/2012 11:27am
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Renner153 wrote:
If its so easy, why did the GOAT of mx quit at it after he fell? If it requires no skill then why did past sx...
If its so easy, why did the GOAT of mx quit at it after he fell? If it requires no skill then why did past sx winners get knocked out? And a dude 10x gnarlier than you wad his brains out and break a leg and ankle doing it? I'm guessing all that was just for the fans? Yea highly doubt that. Like I said I will personally get you on a step up ramp and all you have to do is jump it, but I'm 99.9999999% sure you won't even think about doing it. I qualified for Loretta's in 250a this year, so I have some skill on a dirtbike and I will not hit one. The "half-skilled 909er" would end up flat on his back at the bottom of the jump from looping it out. Trust me I know what these things are like, since my brother just won the gold in step up at xgames this year. You probably think a double backflip is probably easy since some random farm dude by the name of Scott Murray has landed a few don't you?
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No disrespect and again its just my opinion, but I think you kind of proved my point, and yeah I think that was exactly why those...
No disrespect and again its just my opinion, but I think you kind of proved my point, and yeah I think that was exactly why those people tried and / or wadded themselves - for the fans.....and glory. I don't think the reason the GOAT and the rest of the people you alluded to quit doing step up is because it's too hard; I think it's because the fun to danger ratio is out of whack. I mean how much fun can hucking yourself for a split second be? Looks like you just need to have the balls to do it which is kinda what that Murray cat has going for him. I mean your bro has to have more fun free riding with his buddies, hittn' his self designed ramps or chasing you around a moto track than huckn his meat for ESPN gold. I hope he didn't tweak himself too bad and no, like I said; I would never think about hitting a step up they way they are configured today. I also know your family is pure moto, have been noticing your results and think it's cool your carrying on the name. I have always put your bro in that rare breed of freestyle pioneers that have carved out a niche by being smart businessman, great showman with mad bike skills who are typically ex-racers.
Yes, Im sure people signed up for an event, trained for it, then got to x-games and thought, fuck it, this isnt fun, im going to go play riding
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BR_HERO 7/2/2012 11:45am
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PFitzG38 wrote:
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is...
Way stupid contest. Any half skilled 909 rider could get up and over that bar. Then come down and bottom thier guts out......Wow BFD, what is the point. The danger to fun factor is way off on that stunt. TOTALLY lame, I'd be embarassed to say I even performed in that side show.
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Bigfoot 7/2/2012 11:55am
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ESPN and their X-Games has a long history of not giving a Fiddler's Fig about the athletes. It's all about spectacular footage with them. Back at their first Winter X-Games I was hired to do interviews with the athletes in the mountain bike events and to help the on-screen "talent" sound like they knew what they were talking about. All was well until the final few days before the event. When I voiced my concern over blatant safety concerns I was branded a "trouble maker" and they did all that they could to make things difficult until I walked off (at great cost mind you, I gave up the second half of my fee by quitting).

At that time I was also on staff with a bicycle magazine and was at least going to cover the event, which included a speed event: How fast can you go on a straight-down run down a ski slope? They placed their radar gun at the very end of the run and left very little room for the riders to slow down much less stop before slamming into a wall of high jump cushions. Rider after rider slammed into the cushions at high speed---which is far more brutal than it sounds. When one of the women launched over the barriers the director hooted and hollered about how great it looked on camera and expressed zero concern over the well-being of the rider. THAT'S when I walked off and told them exactly why.

Yeah, they said much the same thing that I've read here: "No one is forcing them to participate." True, but for the most part these are young athletes, many of whom live on the edge figuratively and financially. A little TV exposure no matter the cost can mean a lot to them. Taking advantage of this is just plain thoughtless and irresponsible.
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drkelly 7/2/2012 12:24pm
7/2/2012 12:24pm
I have to agree that I think the step up competition has gotten out of control. Renner looked like he did some damage to his lower back on that landing. I sincerely hope he is OK.
The Roooster 7/2/2012 12:57pm
7/2/2012 12:57pm
When that video finished there was a link to a rally car race crash where the track designers set it up so the guy (a Finnish Racer) would take off and smash straight into the landing ramp in a deadly stop-dead collision. The X-games has a real feeling of being run by a bunch of amateurs who are going to kill a bunch of people. That is no disrespect to the athletes who put themselves at risk and perform in these events, but the bozos running the show don't have it all together for sure. The fact that car crash could even happen shows that the guys designing the tracks don't have a clue about safety or physics.
fullfloater 7/2/2012 1:08pm
7/2/2012 1:08pm
Dude, you said it was too easy, now it's too hard. Go home and regroup.

Hope they can find a solution for the landing. Totally impressed with Renner and Buyten after that.

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JR51 7/2/2012 2:32pm
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Trust me, course designer Jesse Olson knows what he is doing....I just don't think there's a very good way to land from 45 feet in the air at the rate of speed and trajectory that these guys are doing. There's a reason why Buyten and Renner only committ to one or two step up events a year! Now if you ask me, the real problem, is the fact that an actual competition like step up only awards one medal, were a popularity contest like best whip awards three. What gives?
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machine 7/2/2012 6:10pm
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Blame it on the 4 strokes, they couldn't jump that high before......Whistling
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wardy 7/2/2012 10:30pm
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Looks like to me that the lower back is taking most of the hit.. but that was pretty friggin amazing. didn't get to watch it but seen that damn loopdeloop and thought no way.

well holy crap thats wild.


10 years from now the loop de loop will be part of the local race track, and parents will be yelling at thier 11 year olds "do it, do it" ya have to do it!!!!

of course they will be wearing a totally inflatable suit so when they crash they simply land on a pillow.



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GIwasB4 7/6/2012 7:14pm
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Looks like to me that the lower back is taking most of the hit.. but that was pretty friggin amazing. didn't get to watch it but...
Looks like to me that the lower back is taking most of the hit.. but that was pretty friggin amazing. didn't get to watch it but seen that damn loopdeloop and thought no way.

well holy crap thats wild.


10 years from now the loop de loop will be part of the local race track, and parents will be yelling at thier 11 year olds "do it, do it" ya have to do it!!!!

of course they will be wearing a totally inflatable suit so when they crash they simply land on a pillow.



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txmxer 7/6/2012 11:52pm
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JMO, but if you fix the landing to be softer when they land "right," it will be much more dangerous when they make a mistake. You'd have guys tumbling backwards down the face 40'...amber lamps time.

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