Jeffrey Herlings

Mrtf
Posts
377
Joined
8/30/2009
Location
SE
6/10/2012 10:33am
Coly243 wrote:
Maybe Barcia will be quick enough to get on the MXdN team, then he can come and join the 59 other people Herlings will school at...
Maybe Barcia will be quick enough to get on the MXdN team, then he can come and join the 59 other people Herlings will school at Lommell.

A 17yr old kid has a tantrum before he even gets his helmet off. Next thing you know there will be grown men baying for physical retribution on the child....oh wait. Wink
Well, he´s 18 now.
M-M
Posts
2138
Joined
11/20/2008
Location
GB
6/10/2012 10:34am Edited Date/Time 6/10/2012 10:35am
Not the only thing to happen today!

https://youtu.be/xyJ0kcJspxU
Ing
Posts
3654
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Spring Hill, FL US
6/10/2012 10:41am
Tempers are flaring.
Katoom72
Posts
893
Joined
12/12/2011
Location
BE
6/10/2012 10:42am
Fighting at your home GP, well done Rui....

The Shop

Coly243
Posts
223
Joined
5/5/2012
Location
Norn Iron GB
Fantasy
6/10/2012 10:46am
Mrtf wrote:
Well, he´s 18 now.
Ahhhhhh 18 now, that changes everything....lynch the dutchtard then.
edub
Posts
198
Joined
9/25/2009
Location
DE
6/10/2012 10:49am Edited Date/Time 6/10/2012 10:49am
Mrtf wrote:
Well, he´s 18 now.
No, still 17,
he becomes 18 in September

edub
chrisbuehler
Posts
3346
Joined
2/9/2009
Location
North Stonington, CT US
6/10/2012 10:52am
Coly243 wrote:
Maybe Barcia will be quick enough to get on the MXdN team, then he can come and join the 59 other people Herlings will school at...
Maybe Barcia will be quick enough to get on the MXdN team, then he can come and join the 59 other people Herlings will school at Lommell.

A 17yr old kid has a tantrum before he even gets his helmet off. Next thing you know there will be grown men baying for physical retribution on the child....oh wait. Wink
Yes we knows he's good in sand. So he would win Southwick then barely get top 6 anywhere else
BR_HERO
Posts
1216
Joined
1/25/2012
Location
Cerritos, CA US
6/10/2012 10:57am Edited Date/Time 6/10/2012 11:01am
Would love to see some of the GP guys move this way.
Outsider
Posts
10628
Joined
1/29/2009
Location
Huntington Beach, CA US
6/10/2012 10:58am
Wow, what a tool.
carlosmacho
Posts
1493
Joined
12/8/2009
Location
Lost Wages, NV US
6/10/2012 11:09am
SlowMoFo wrote:
I know he is very good outdoors but Kenny was abusing him last year and look at Kenny here in the States. I was refering to...
I know he is very good outdoors but Kenny was abusing him last year and look at Kenny here in the States. I was refering to SX. He sure will have to learn a thing or two.
Ewan wrote:
Yeah but Kenny was smoking everyone at the des nations, he has the speed to smoke america's best outdoors but I think supercross realy dented his...
Yeah but Kenny was smoking everyone at the des nations, he has the speed to smoke america's best outdoors but I think supercross realy dented his confidence this year.

If Herlings skipped sx and jumped straight into the nationals next year I reckon the cocky little shit could do some damage.
"Kenny was smoking everyone at the des nations.....he has the speed to smoke america's best outdoors."

In Colorado MXON, the Americans were riding smart. They were not riding to the intensity you see now in the 250 class, they were trying to win the MXON trophy not beat Roczen. So as we seen here so far in the 250 outdoors, Roczen does not have what it takes to best the best 250 riders in the world sitting forth in points..
carlosmacho
Posts
1493
Joined
12/8/2009
Location
Lost Wages, NV US
6/10/2012 11:18am
SlowMoFo wrote:
You got one thing right, he is a cocky little shit. I don't think Kenny's problem is lack of confidence.
Ewan wrote:
Well i guess we will see if he gets a win under his belt this season and can go on a roll? If not for confidence...
Well i guess we will see if he gets a win under his belt this season and can go on a roll?

If not for confidence, what do you reckon ken's problem is thus far?
mccread wrote:
That last moto was the first time he got the chance to run his own pace and his own groove really. Once he got a little...
That last moto was the first time he got the chance to run his own pace and his own groove really. Once he got a little gap and got to run his own race he walked away (until the crash). Also the track was very slick not just pin it to win style.

Its different just, different tracks, diffferect style, racing americans in their own country is hard. very little practice time too. Still,, he should have won three motos. He is right there.

You put those three Americans in the World champs against Roczen and Herlings and I think Herlings and Roczen would be leading them in the points.. and Searle and Musquin would be right there too with them.

In the USA its different.
Mccreedy, you have been telling us all along that Roczen could hang with the best in the world who are the Americans. but now that didn't work out for you, you have to make another excuses and say that Herlings would beat the Americans in points. Our riders have gone to MXON on Euro tracks not trying for the personal win but for the MXON and still often beat the Euros on their own tracks.

We have seen this time after time. You can continue to make excuses, but the fastest GP riders are only top 5 or top 10 in America. Sorry, that's just the way it is.

Why you try to come on to this board and tell us our riders would be beat our riders in Europe is just beyond me.

"In the USA its different."
We agree here, the USA is different because our riders ride faster, with more intensity the Euro riders as Roczen has found out. That does not mean the world champs are bad riders, it just means they are not as fast as the Americans. I think Caroli when when he does battle with our riders has found the same thing, the Americans ride faster and with more intensity than the GP rider, that does not mean the GP riders are bad, they are just not as fast.... on ANY track.
mccread
Posts
5934
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
6/10/2012 11:19am Edited Date/Time 6/10/2012 11:20am
Coly243 wrote:
Maybe Barcia will be quick enough to get on the MXdN team, then he can come and join the 59 other people Herlings will school at...
Maybe Barcia will be quick enough to get on the MXdN team, then he can come and join the 59 other people Herlings will school at Lommell.

A 17yr old kid has a tantrum before he even gets his helmet off. Next thing you know there will be grown men baying for physical retribution on the child....oh wait. Wink
Yes we knows he's good in sand. So he would win Southwick then barely get top 6 anywhere else
you are an idiot have you even watched the races?! Statements like that make you look really ignorant.

He is fast everywhere and incredible in sand. Beat RV on the Hardpack in France...
Barrett57
Posts
2270
Joined
8/31/2010
Location
GB
6/10/2012 11:20am Edited Date/Time 6/10/2012 11:21am
Not this shit again Huh
mccread
Posts
5934
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
6/10/2012 11:21am Edited Date/Time 6/10/2012 11:26am
Ewan wrote:
Well i guess we will see if he gets a win under his belt this season and can go on a roll? If not for confidence...
Well i guess we will see if he gets a win under his belt this season and can go on a roll?

If not for confidence, what do you reckon ken's problem is thus far?
mccread wrote:
That last moto was the first time he got the chance to run his own pace and his own groove really. Once he got a little...
That last moto was the first time he got the chance to run his own pace and his own groove really. Once he got a little gap and got to run his own race he walked away (until the crash). Also the track was very slick not just pin it to win style.

Its different just, different tracks, diffferect style, racing americans in their own country is hard. very little practice time too. Still,, he should have won three motos. He is right there.

You put those three Americans in the World champs against Roczen and Herlings and I think Herlings and Roczen would be leading them in the points.. and Searle and Musquin would be right there too with them.

In the USA its different.
Mccreedy, you have been telling us all along that Roczen could hang with the best in the world who are the Americans. but now that didn't...
Mccreedy, you have been telling us all along that Roczen could hang with the best in the world who are the Americans. but now that didn't work out for you, you have to make another excuses and say that Herlings would beat the Americans in points. Our riders have gone to MXON on Euro tracks not trying for the personal win but for the MXON and still often beat the Euros on their own tracks.

We have seen this time after time. You can continue to make excuses, but the fastest GP riders are only top 5 or top 10 in America. Sorry, that's just the way it is.

Why you try to come on to this board and tell us our riders would be beat our riders in Europe is just beyond me.

"In the USA its different."
We agree here, the USA is different because our riders ride faster, with more intensity the Euro riders as Roczen has found out. That does not mean the world champs are bad riders, it just means they are not as fast as the Americans. I think Caroli when when he does battle with our riders has found the same thing, the Americans ride faster and with more intensity than the GP rider, that does not mean the GP riders are bad, they are just not as fast.... on ANY track.
MXON is nothing like racing an individual World GP series.

you are so deluded it is utterly amazing. I feel sorry for you.

American riders are no better than the top riders in the World Championship. They are all similar.

If you don't understand there is a difference in racing Americans in a US national championship and the World Championship there is no hope for you.
RealityZ
Posts
618
Joined
8/10/2010
Location
NY US
6/10/2012 11:28am
Racing a GP series is nothing like racing AMA SX and MX

Herlings would be 5-6
6/10/2012 11:36am
SlowMoFo wrote:
I know he is very good outdoors but Kenny was abusing him last year and look at Kenny here in the States. I was refering to...
I know he is very good outdoors but Kenny was abusing him last year and look at Kenny here in the States. I was refering to SX. He sure will have to learn a thing or two.
Ewan wrote:
Yeah but Kenny was smoking everyone at the des nations, he has the speed to smoke america's best outdoors but I think supercross realy dented his...
Yeah but Kenny was smoking everyone at the des nations, he has the speed to smoke america's best outdoors but I think supercross realy dented his confidence this year.

If Herlings skipped sx and jumped straight into the nationals next year I reckon the cocky little shit could do some damage.
"Kenny was smoking everyone at the des nations.....he has the speed to smoke america's best outdoors." In Colorado MXON, the Americans were riding smart. They were...
"Kenny was smoking everyone at the des nations.....he has the speed to smoke america's best outdoors."

In Colorado MXON, the Americans were riding smart. They were not riding to the intensity you see now in the 250 class, they were trying to win the MXON trophy not beat Roczen. So as we seen here so far in the 250 outdoors, Roczen does not have what it takes to best the best 250 riders in the world sitting forth in points..
"Roczen does not have what it takes to best the best 250 riders in the world sitting forth in points.."

So far not on the American tracks and with the AMA format, I agree. He's weaker in America than in Europe, no doubt.
Mrtf
Posts
377
Joined
8/30/2009
Location
SE
6/10/2012 11:42am
mccread wrote:
you are an idiot have you even watched the races?! Statements like that make you look really ignorant. He is fast everywhere and incredible in sand...
you are an idiot have you even watched the races?! Statements like that make you look really ignorant.

He is fast everywhere and incredible in sand. Beat RV on the Hardpack in France...
Paulin beat both of them, does it mean that he should be 2011 Ama mx and sx champ?
carlosmacho
Posts
1493
Joined
12/8/2009
Location
Lost Wages, NV US
6/10/2012 11:43am Edited Date/Time 6/10/2012 11:44am
mccread wrote:
MXON is nothing like racing an individual World GP series. you are so deluded it is utterly amazing. I feel sorry for you. American riders are...
MXON is nothing like racing an individual World GP series.

you are so deluded it is utterly amazing. I feel sorry for you.

American riders are no better than the top riders in the World Championship. They are all similar.

If you don't understand there is a difference in racing Americans in a US national championship and the World Championship there is no hope for you.
Talk about deluded, you can watch it on TV with your own eyes but your mind cannot accept reality. I feel sorry for you.

What you don't understand or ever be able to understand is the Americans are faster, they can come from back of the pack and pass a "world champ" but you don't get it. I guess that is why you come to Vital, and American motocross forum and try to tell us the GP riders are as good or better. But they are not but again, your deluded mind cannot accept facts or your own two eyes, how sad for you.
carlosmacho
Posts
1493
Joined
12/8/2009
Location
Lost Wages, NV US
6/10/2012 11:50am
RealityZ wrote:
Racing a GP series is nothing like racing AMA SX and MX

Herlings would be 5-6
Roczen even said it himself. The heat (he has not been at a real hot race yet), the intensity and the speed from beginning to end of the race, the schedule, is harder here than in Europe and the Americans are tougher, because they have to be.

I agree, Herlings would be somewhere between the two "world champs" top ten.
carlosmacho
Posts
1493
Joined
12/8/2009
Location
Lost Wages, NV US
6/10/2012 11:53am
Coly243 wrote:
Maybe Barcia will be quick enough to get on the MXdN team, then he can come and join the 59 other people Herlings will school at...
Maybe Barcia will be quick enough to get on the MXdN team, then he can come and join the 59 other people Herlings will school at Lommell.

A 17yr old kid has a tantrum before he even gets his helmet off. Next thing you know there will be grown men baying for physical retribution on the child....oh wait. Wink
"he can come and join the 59 other people Herlings will school at Lommell."

That is a pretty big expectation you put on your Euro riders, haven't you guys been too much of this lately only to see your riders fail to meet those expectations?
Hanaa80
Posts
1561
Joined
5/10/2010
Location
N/A FI
6/10/2012 11:54am
Since you and Mccread keep repeating yourself, why won't you 2 go and read one of the old GP vs AMA threads instead? All this has been said 1000 times already and it's getting really effing old!
SlowMoFo
Posts
1539
Joined
4/17/2008
Location
MS US
6/10/2012 11:59am
I have to agree with Carlos on this one(and that doesn't happen often):

"That is a pretty big expectation you put on your Euro riders, haven't you guys been too much of this lately only to see your riders fail to meet those expectations? "
Hutch
Posts
4
Joined
4/27/2012
Location
GB
6/10/2012 12:01pm
Going back to Herlings, did anyone look at Everts at the podium, had a face like a smacked arse, I'm guessing he's not too pleased with his protege, think words will be had !!!
TDeath21
Posts
6515
Joined
2/22/2011
Location
Somewhere, MO US
6/10/2012 12:05pm
He would be battling with Musquin for 5th, about 40 seconds behind the lead pack of four.
SlowMoFo
Posts
1539
Joined
4/17/2008
Location
MS US
6/10/2012 12:06pm
Hutch wrote:
Going back to Herlings, did anyone look at Everts at the podium, had a face like a smacked arse, I'm guessing he's not too pleased with...
Going back to Herlings, did anyone look at Everts at the podium, had a face like a smacked arse, I'm guessing he's not too pleased with his protege, think words will be had !!!
I hope so, somebody has to do it.
M-M
Posts
2138
Joined
11/20/2008
Location
GB
6/10/2012 12:08pm Edited Date/Time 6/10/2012 12:26pm
OTOR ‏@OntrackOffroad
Herlings has the maximum FIM fine for his 'Unacceptable behaviour' on live TV; 3000 euros I think. Pocock was warned for his conduct.

Originally Posted by tns
"reports on facebook of fights breaking out in the pits ktm and kawaski mechanics herlings another rider and his family not pocock"
"I was there although didnt see the full incident. It was the Tonus family involved in the fight. A Yamaha team member said it involved an argument about Pocock and then some comments about Arnaud's sister who Helings goes out with - allegedly Tonus and his father took offence ang gave Herlings a kicking. There was another rider, Hugo Basuala, involved but I dont know the full extent. Later saw Herlings leave the medical centre (with everts) looking sheepish and what looked like a bruise on his face".


The drama haha
Katoom72
Posts
893
Joined
12/12/2011
Location
BE
6/10/2012 12:12pm Edited Date/Time 6/10/2012 12:22pm
He needs to hit a brick wall and be put back on his feet again.
He's the face and voice of that team, he should know better then talking frustrations.....A good rider needs a good team to win and vice versa, you don't disrespect your team like that. They work hard to put the team and brand into a good image and he just throws all that hard work out of the window.

Very selfish and dick move from Herlings.

It's a nice launch for the DC shoes sponsorship tough! :')
6/10/2012 12:20pm
M-M wrote:
[b]OTOR ‏@OntrackOffroad Herlings has the maximum FIM fine for his 'Unacceptable behaviour' on live TV; 3000 euros I think. Pocock was warned for his conduct. Originally...
OTOR ‏@OntrackOffroad
Herlings has the maximum FIM fine for his 'Unacceptable behaviour' on live TV; 3000 euros I think. Pocock was warned for his conduct.

Originally Posted by tns
"reports on facebook of fights breaking out in the pits ktm and kawaski mechanics herlings another rider and his family not pocock"
"I was there although didnt see the full incident. It was the Tonus family involved in the fight. A Yamaha team member said it involved an argument about Pocock and then some comments about Arnaud's sister who Helings goes out with - allegedly Tonus and his father took offence ang gave Herlings a kicking. There was another rider, Hugo Basuala, involved but I dont know the full extent. Later saw Herlings leave the medical centre (with everts) looking sheepish and what looked like a bruise on his face".


The drama haha
i think deducting points from herlings would be a better punishment, a 3000 euro fine is probably not that big a deal for him...Dry
Barrett57
Posts
2270
Joined
8/31/2010
Location
GB
6/10/2012 1:45pm
M-M wrote:
[b]OTOR ‏@OntrackOffroad Herlings has the maximum FIM fine for his 'Unacceptable behaviour' on live TV; 3000 euros I think. Pocock was warned for his conduct. Originally...
OTOR ‏@OntrackOffroad
Herlings has the maximum FIM fine for his 'Unacceptable behaviour' on live TV; 3000 euros I think. Pocock was warned for his conduct.

Originally Posted by tns
"reports on facebook of fights breaking out in the pits ktm and kawaski mechanics herlings another rider and his family not pocock"
"I was there although didnt see the full incident. It was the Tonus family involved in the fight. A Yamaha team member said it involved an argument about Pocock and then some comments about Arnaud's sister who Helings goes out with - allegedly Tonus and his father took offence ang gave Herlings a kicking. There was another rider, Hugo Basuala, involved but I dont know the full extent. Later saw Herlings leave the medical centre (with everts) looking sheepish and what looked like a bruise on his face".


The drama haha
Grinning Grinning Grinning fucking quality.
Bob454
Posts
161
Joined
1/18/2012
Location
Sweet Valley, PA US
6/10/2012 2:02pm Edited Date/Time 6/10/2012 2:07pm
I think the kid is awesome, if chad reed made those same comment you would congratulate him on showing so much emotion. The kid is paid to ride a motorcycle, no be a mindless talking head. I remember a Dennis rodman? Quote years ago....something to the tune of "I'm paid to play basketball, not raise your ducking kids"


Edit: Rodman's quote was "just because I can dunk a basketball, it does not mean I should raise your kids"

Post a reply to: Jeffrey Herlings

The Latest