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Switch 5/27/2012 7:00am
5/27/2012 7:00am
mmcmx wrote:
In the other hand he hasn't crashed into and injured half of the field.
Switch wrote:
Stop making sense
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Both of the "quoted" people in my(this) post are retarded. It is interesting to see them in the wild like this as they normally are nocturnal...
Both of the "quoted" people in my(this) post are retarded. It is interesting to see them in the wild like this as they normally are nocturnal. Please take a quick photo and move along. If you stay in one spot too long, they may see you.
You tried, gotta give you that much. Good effort.
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TDeath21 5/27/2012 9:03am
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Stewart and Dungey have completely opposite styles. We'll see which one pays off.

What I can tell you is this:

Heading into Stewart's 3rd year on the big bike, he had zero championships and several hard crashes.

Heading into Dungey's 3rd year on the big bike, he had two championships (maybe should have been four) and no hard crashes.

Dungey has beaten Stewart in the 3 championships they've both contested together.

Stewart has crashed more in the 3 championships they've both contested together.

Stewart has missed more races in the 3 championships they've both contested together.

Dungey has had more wins in 2 of the 3 championships they've both contested together.

Stewart has had the faster lap time than Dungey in most of the races they've contested together.

Stewart has qualified better in most of the races they've contested together.

So everyone can keep smashing Dungey for not doing this or not doing that. He's doing what matters. He's been beaten twice now by Stewart. Stewart is riding well. So is Dungey. They're both putting on a great show. I'm sure if Stewart makes a mistake and crashes he'll be slammed for being too aggressive. They both have their styles, and both work for each guy. Just sit back, watch the polar opposite styles battle, enjoy the great racing they're giving us, and be thankful they're both there so the leader isn't a minute ahead of 2nd.
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machine 5/27/2012 9:12am
5/27/2012 9:12am
bents wrote:
Lets see who is standing at the end of this series......the guy is super disciplined, never takes himself out of a race (therefore a series) and...
Lets see who is standing at the end of this series......the guy is super disciplined, never takes himself out of a race (therefore a series) and is always super fit and prepared, and never gives up. And he has won a bunch-what the fuck else do you want from the guy? Oh yeah, more aggressive passing...okay.

He could have gotten a tenth or 2 more in that first moto and put himself into the ground, or, knowing that a first is as good as a second, let Stewie know that he can run that pace for 30+2. I think the Dunge will be just fine.
This is true, but I think DeCoster should put Roczen and Musquin on a 350 during the week and let RD practice passing...Wink

I also think a lot of riders get scetched out about getting close to Stewart given his history of taking people out by getting out of control. I know I would keep my distance from someone like him. RC is the only one i've seen that wasn't afraid to slam into Stewart.
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IceMan446 5/27/2012 9:18am
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bents wrote:
Lets see who is standing at the end of this series......the guy is super disciplined, never takes himself out of a race (therefore a series) and...
Lets see who is standing at the end of this series......the guy is super disciplined, never takes himself out of a race (therefore a series) and is always super fit and prepared, and never gives up. And he has won a bunch-what the fuck else do you want from the guy? Oh yeah, more aggressive passing...okay.

He could have gotten a tenth or 2 more in that first moto and put himself into the ground, or, knowing that a first is as good as a second, let Stewie know that he can run that pace for 30+2. I think the Dunge will be just fine.
Second is not as good as a first.

That logic is completely asinine.

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IceMan446 5/27/2012 9:21am
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Dungey did what he always does, and it may just win him another title. Damn shame RV had to go twist up his knee cause you...
Dungey did what he always does, and it may just win him another title.

Damn shame RV had to go twist up his knee cause you can bet your ass James wouldn't have looked so darn calm if he was in the mix.
Didn't Dungey beat CR and RV by 20+ seconds last year at freestone the second moto???
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Yeah he could definitely pick up his Aggression it was there in the Supercross, but apparently he does not wanna punt a black man in the...
Yeah he could definitely pick up his Aggression it was there in the Supercross, but apparently he does not wanna punt a black man in the outdoorsCool
You have to be in position to do any punting, he wasn't...
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cmess77 5/27/2012 9:29am
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Didn't Dungey beat CR and RV by 20+ seconds last year at freestone the second moto???
Well no. But yeah.
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IceMan446 5/27/2012 9:32am
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cmess77 wrote:
Well no. But yeah.
Only asking, because Fro mentioned it during the telecast.
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Outsider 5/27/2012 9:47am
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Dungey did what he always does, and it may just win him another title. Damn shame RV had to go twist up his knee cause you...
Dungey did what he always does, and it may just win him another title.

Damn shame RV had to go twist up his knee cause you can bet your ass James wouldn't have looked so darn calm if he was in the mix.
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Didn't Dungey beat CR and RV by 20+ seconds last year at freestone the second moto???
Didn't RV admittedly come into 2011 unhealthy and unprepared? He flat out said so, watch "The Moto". He also was on the 2011 bike, and as we all saw, the 2012 suited him much better.

If he would have been able to carry his fitness, confidence, and momentum into the nationals, I think we would be seeing some even more epic battles! But, he wasn't, so it is what it is. Which is still great BTW.
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Markout 5/27/2012 9:51am
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TDeath21 wrote:
Stewart and Dungey have completely opposite styles. We'll see which one pays off. What I can tell you is this: Heading into Stewart's 3rd year on...
Stewart and Dungey have completely opposite styles. We'll see which one pays off.

What I can tell you is this:

Heading into Stewart's 3rd year on the big bike, he had zero championships and several hard crashes.

Heading into Dungey's 3rd year on the big bike, he had two championships (maybe should have been four) and no hard crashes.

Dungey has beaten Stewart in the 3 championships they've both contested together.

Stewart has crashed more in the 3 championships they've both contested together.

Stewart has missed more races in the 3 championships they've both contested together.

Dungey has had more wins in 2 of the 3 championships they've both contested together.

Stewart has had the faster lap time than Dungey in most of the races they've contested together.

Stewart has qualified better in most of the races they've contested together.

So everyone can keep smashing Dungey for not doing this or not doing that. He's doing what matters. He's been beaten twice now by Stewart. Stewart is riding well. So is Dungey. They're both putting on a great show. I'm sure if Stewart makes a mistake and crashes he'll be slammed for being too aggressive. They both have their styles, and both work for each guy. Just sit back, watch the polar opposite styles battle, enjoy the great racing they're giving us, and be thankful they're both there so the leader isn't a minute ahead of 2nd.
One factor not considered here is that Stewie was racing against the greatest of all time. If Dungey came up at that time he wouldn't have any titles either, nobody could beat the goat in those days.

0n the real topic, I'm a Dungey fan, but he needs to make passes happen, not wait for them, he follows too much, Stewie comes up and passes them both. In the first moto Dungey was faster, but never made it happen. His confidence would be through the roof had he caught and passed Stewie.
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TDeath21 5/27/2012 10:02am
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TDeath21 wrote:
Stewart and Dungey have completely opposite styles. We'll see which one pays off. What I can tell you is this: Heading into Stewart's 3rd year on...
Stewart and Dungey have completely opposite styles. We'll see which one pays off.

What I can tell you is this:

Heading into Stewart's 3rd year on the big bike, he had zero championships and several hard crashes.

Heading into Dungey's 3rd year on the big bike, he had two championships (maybe should have been four) and no hard crashes.

Dungey has beaten Stewart in the 3 championships they've both contested together.

Stewart has crashed more in the 3 championships they've both contested together.

Stewart has missed more races in the 3 championships they've both contested together.

Dungey has had more wins in 2 of the 3 championships they've both contested together.

Stewart has had the faster lap time than Dungey in most of the races they've contested together.

Stewart has qualified better in most of the races they've contested together.

So everyone can keep smashing Dungey for not doing this or not doing that. He's doing what matters. He's been beaten twice now by Stewart. Stewart is riding well. So is Dungey. They're both putting on a great show. I'm sure if Stewart makes a mistake and crashes he'll be slammed for being too aggressive. They both have their styles, and both work for each guy. Just sit back, watch the polar opposite styles battle, enjoy the great racing they're giving us, and be thankful they're both there so the leader isn't a minute ahead of 2nd.
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One factor not considered here is that Stewie was racing against the greatest of all time. If Dungey came up at that time he wouldn't have...
One factor not considered here is that Stewie was racing against the greatest of all time. If Dungey came up at that time he wouldn't have any titles either, nobody could beat the goat in those days.

0n the real topic, I'm a Dungey fan, but he needs to make passes happen, not wait for them, he follows too much, Stewie comes up and passes them both. In the first moto Dungey was faster, but never made it happen. His confidence would be through the roof had he caught and passed Stewie.
Dungey wouldn't have crashed himself into the ground and landed on other riders trying to keep up with Carmichael either.

Stewart gets a sub par start and he goes all out to get into the lead. Most of the time he gets to the front quickly. Sometimes he cleans out another rider and himself while doing it. Like I said, it'll be interesting which strategy pays off for the championship. They couldn't be more opposite.

Also like I said, Dungey's strategy has beaten Stewart's strategy in all 3 championships contested together.
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I love plain statistics.
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I love supercross statistics to prove a point outdoors...
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Time to go buy some more Holiday Inn stock; that place must be packed every night.
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bents 5/27/2012 10:27am
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bents wrote:
Lets see who is standing at the end of this series......the guy is super disciplined, never takes himself out of a race (therefore a series) and...
Lets see who is standing at the end of this series......the guy is super disciplined, never takes himself out of a race (therefore a series) and is always super fit and prepared, and never gives up. And he has won a bunch-what the fuck else do you want from the guy? Oh yeah, more aggressive passing...okay.

He could have gotten a tenth or 2 more in that first moto and put himself into the ground, or, knowing that a first is as good as a second, let Stewie know that he can run that pace for 30+2. I think the Dunge will be just fine.
IceMan446 wrote:
Second is not as good as a first.

That logic is completely asinine.
2-1 doesn't beat a 1-2 at the end of the day? This was what I was referring to-the overall for day, not 2nd place for the entire series.

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