does alessi have the speed to win a few?

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I think he does...just wondering if he thinks he does. I talked to mike after the race he was happy to podium.
He said they're the best in tbe world and he was pretty happy to get 3rd to dungey and stewart. I say poppycock and he can beat those guys and win a few. I haven't seen the lap times but it appeared that mike gap'd those guys a bit during the opening laps of the 2nd moto. Moto is mental...fix mental and fix moto i say. Easy to say...hard to do.
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madmaxperformance 5/21/2012 10:19pm
5/21/2012 10:19pm
I honestly think hes close enough, that if he could just find the missing key... that little bit extra, stop looking back, race the track, and gain a little bit of confidence, he could do it. The things I listed are all one in the same. Gain one of them, and he would gain them all. It all comes down to exactly what you said Bobby... hes gotta fix the mental. Everything else is there.
lostboy819 5/21/2012 10:21pm
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If he was gonna win Hangtown would have been his best shot.But yes he can still win a few.
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Tim507 5/21/2012 10:28pm
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He is capable, but it will not happen.
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CocaineCrazy 5/21/2012 10:37pm
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Yes Alessi does and it will happen,but the question i have is Stewart gonna ever not get a good start?

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dboivin 5/21/2012 10:41pm
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if dungey or stew crash out...mikes got a chance (very small). I think mudflaps has a better chance of winning a moto or overall....he don't ride around with his head on backwards.

for once...i would love to see MA800 pass someone.....going forward. not just get holeshot and fade. I haven't seen him charge thru a pack in what? 4 years?
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burba437 5/21/2012 10:42pm
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i wouldnt put money on him winning im pretty sure they said he was half a track behind stewart and dungey and at the beginning he was running around a 2:10 they said and he is way to worried about block then trying to charge ahead he was pulling some crazy moves but thats just imo
TheWeapon 5/21/2012 11:34pm
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He will win a few laps for sure. Races? I can't see it. I don't know why, but he always seems to go backwards....maybe because he very rarely gets a start outside the top 3....
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Dias374 5/21/2012 11:54pm
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Raw speed to win, no. Something goes a little wacko off the start and he can get away early, yes.
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wow123 5/22/2012 12:37am
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I hope so!

Being a great starter myself i know how it feels to holeshot and work your way back race after race,
years ago i only passed 3 or 4 riders the whole season! I finish 3rd in the series but it still sorta sucked.
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BobbyM 5/22/2012 12:39am
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TheWeapon wrote:
He will win a few laps for sure. Races? I can't see it. I don't know why, but he always seems to go backwards....maybe because he...
He will win a few laps for sure. Races? I can't see it. I don't know why, but he always seems to go backwards....maybe because he very rarely gets a start outside the top 3....
He started quite a bit worse than he finished in moto 1 and he hung with the leaders and pulled away from metcalf on the moto 2. Not exactly a bad afternoon racing in the most competitve motocross series in the world. But yea...he didn't win.
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tobz 5/22/2012 12:45am
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I think he would still have trouble battling with the top 5. Slim luck, but possible, if stew and dunge have an incredibly bad moto, then any of the top 5-7 who has a good start can grab a win.

So i'll go with a no. I can see a DM18, Metty or even Short having more of a possibility of getting a win.

MA seems like he will always have that mentality they'll hold him back, looking backwards and going backwards. The recent dud move off the start at Vegas shows that he still has it.
Jamie_Munro 5/22/2012 1:54am
5/22/2012 1:54am
he is looking a lot more confident than he has in years, probably since his 1st couple of races with KTM or even as far back as on the Suzuki - I think that now he has re-visited the podium (he was clearly very relieved) he will be back on there many times this year, he will be a top 5 man through the year and I certainly hope he gets a good poke at a win or even 2, even if they are moto's and not overalls. Mike is pretty damn exciting to watch when he is on the limit and I am well chuffed he is back on Suzuki and in the outdoors, GO 800 !
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Lightning78 5/22/2012 2:46am
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Tim507 wrote:
He is capable, but it will not happen.
I agree and its a shame, I would say he may need to evolve his riding style to be more fluid on the bike yes, yes I know Im not a top national pro but he just looks too tense, Even emig pointed out that when he starts to look back he GOES back.... If it were just Dungey I would say he could do it but with the way James rode Hangtown, I just see it happening. Reminicent of 2008 he was always 2nd fastest to James but this year he doesnt have a Factory Suzuki and James does..... Sure the MCR bike is a dam fine bike, MCR doesnt have the resources that Factory Yosh Suzuki has and that he had in 2008.

Actually he may sneak an overall once mayyyyyyyybe twice but beating Dingey is one thing, Beating Stewart is ANOTHER and not to mention Short, Metcalfe and Weimer ..ETC..
TripleDigit 5/22/2012 3:05am
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He's got a good few laps in him but its not enough to win,the best he should be hoping for is 3rd,the class isn't too stacked,so I think its very possible
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I am really impressed with Mike.
Ever since he got OFF the ktm 350 and back on the RMZ450, he has been a different rider, and he actually seems to be getting better and better.
Will he straight up run down Stewart and Dungey for the win? no, but if he gets the holeshot, and Stewart and Dungey have some issues, he could get far out enough to pull off a win.

Right now, I, expecting him to end up 3rd in the Championship. Which is amazing. Keep it up Mike!!
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SlowMoFo 5/22/2012 3:31am
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He can get away with a good start but it will take the other two to get bad ones. If he gets away in the beggining, he might be tough to catch but then again, it has been done before.
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Derpin' DJ 5/22/2012 3:39am
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R-acer wrote:
I am really impressed with Mike. Ever since he got OFF the ktm 350 and back on the RMZ450, he has been a different rider, and...
I am really impressed with Mike.
Ever since he got OFF the ktm 350 and back on the RMZ450, he has been a different rider, and he actually seems to be getting better and better.
Will he straight up run down Stewart and Dungey for the win? no, but if he gets the holeshot, and Stewart and Dungey have some issues, he could get far out enough to pull off a win.

Right now, I, expecting him to end up 3rd in the Championship. Which is amazing. Keep it up Mike!!
He was on the 450 last year bro. He looked faster on the factory KTM tbh...
TripleDigit 5/22/2012 4:35am
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R-acer wrote:
I am really impressed with Mike. Ever since he got OFF the ktm 350 and back on the RMZ450, he has been a different rider, and...
I am really impressed with Mike.
Ever since he got OFF the ktm 350 and back on the RMZ450, he has been a different rider, and he actually seems to be getting better and better.
Will he straight up run down Stewart and Dungey for the win? no, but if he gets the holeshot, and Stewart and Dungey have some issues, he could get far out enough to pull off a win.

Right now, I, expecting him to end up 3rd in the Championship. Which is amazing. Keep it up Mike!!
Derpin' DJ wrote:
He was on the 450 last year bro. He looked faster on the factory KTM tbh...
He won on that 350 and looked fast,didn't he go 3-1 ?

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CRF505 5/22/2012 4:44am
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Dias374 wrote:
Raw speed to win, no. Something goes a little wacko off the start and he can get away early, yes.
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I think its possible he could pull off a moto win, but not an overall IMO. Mike's career has always been about getting a good start and holding on till the finish. Mike struggles much like Dungey does when it comes to passing. I have yet to see Mike win a race after starting midpack or even just outside the top 10. I do think he will podium a ton this year and with his talent he could be on the podium every race. However winning is a different story altogether.
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Stephon 5/22/2012 5:11am
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I think he can win if things really go his way, but i don't think he'll win in the fashion that RD/JS are going to win. I don't think Mike believes it either. He HAS to race forward and stop looking around so much. He's gotten a lot better with that over the years though.
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Katoom72 5/22/2012 5:41am
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It's motocross, anything can happen.

MA is an outdoors man, he has the capabilities to win he just needs to make it stick.
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TerryK 5/22/2012 6:13am
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madmaxperformance wrote:
I honestly think hes close enough, that if he could just find the missing key... that little bit extra, stop looking back, race the track, and...
I honestly think hes close enough, that if he could just find the missing key... that little bit extra, stop looking back, race the track, and gain a little bit of confidence, he could do it. The things I listed are all one in the same. Gain one of them, and he would gain them all. It all comes down to exactly what you said Bobby... hes gotta fix the mental. Everything else is there.
This, exactly.
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MX558 5/22/2012 6:25am
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Maybe he can get lucky with the top guys crashing early but it looks doubtful. When he was leading he looked like a roadblock.
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P 5/22/2012 6:49am
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BobbyM wrote:
I think he does...just wondering if he thinks he does. I talked to mike after the race he was happy to podium. He said they're the...
I think he does...just wondering if he thinks he does. I talked to mike after the race he was happy to podium.
He said they're the best in tbe world and he was pretty happy to get 3rd to dungey and stewart. I say poppycock and he can beat those guys and win a few. I haven't seen the lap times but it appeared that mike gap'd those guys a bit during the opening laps of the 2nd moto. Moto is mental...fix mental and fix moto i say. Easy to say...hard to do.
Simple answer is no, not if he keeps doing what he is doing.

I think that it's technique related. That's just MHO. He rides the bike the same as he did as an Am. and the thing that was his big advantage then was that he was a little guy on a 450. When it came to the 250F there were guys that were faster.

I think that if he made some changes he could be up there. He is very talented. More talented than most of the kids out there.



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Grieby54 5/22/2012 6:55am
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BobbyM wrote:
I think he does...just wondering if he thinks he does. I talked to mike after the race he was happy to podium. He said they're the...
I think he does...just wondering if he thinks he does. I talked to mike after the race he was happy to podium.
He said they're the best in tbe world and he was pretty happy to get 3rd to dungey and stewart. I say poppycock and he can beat those guys and win a few. I haven't seen the lap times but it appeared that mike gap'd those guys a bit during the opening laps of the 2nd moto. Moto is mental...fix mental and fix moto i say. Easy to say...hard to do.
He was running laps about 2 seconds slower than the leaders were early in the moto (according to Emig). In 30+2, that's a lot of time to be losing every lap. I was surprised to see him pass Dungey back, though. He was riding one of the widest bikes I've ever seen, too.
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sozo 5/22/2012 6:57am
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madmaxperformance wrote:
I honestly think hes close enough, that if he could just find the missing key... that little bit extra, stop looking back, race the track, and...
I honestly think hes close enough, that if he could just find the missing key... that little bit extra, stop looking back, race the track, and gain a little bit of confidence, he could do it. The things I listed are all one in the same. Gain one of them, and he would gain them all. It all comes down to exactly what you said Bobby... hes gotta fix the mental. Everything else is there.
TerryK wrote:
This, exactly.
I agree, it looks like he has put himself in a place mentally rather than just being himself. His corners are not too good, looks like he over thinks it. If he would stop “thinking" and start "feeling" he would be better off. I don’t know him but I can tell he is a passionate guy and looks like he had to learn to curb that passion but what he really needed to do is do like RV does and focus that passion and get pissed at the track not the other parameters like riders and bike etc... .

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delonick347 5/22/2012 6:59am
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BobbyM wrote:
I think he does...just wondering if he thinks he does. I talked to mike after the race he was happy to podium. He said they're the...
I think he does...just wondering if he thinks he does. I talked to mike after the race he was happy to podium.
He said they're the best in tbe world and he was pretty happy to get 3rd to dungey and stewart. I say poppycock and he can beat those guys and win a few. I haven't seen the lap times but it appeared that mike gap'd those guys a bit during the opening laps of the 2nd moto. Moto is mental...fix mental and fix moto i say. Easy to say...hard to do.
I don't think so. I don't know how to fully explain it, but IMO, Alessi's riding style, line selection and composure on the track (not so much lately) seems amateurish, comparitively speaking. Reed and KW ride with elegance and grace. RV and JS7's riding styles are also badass, smooth, yet aggressive. I know I'm getting a little off topic here, but I just don't think MA is the same caliber racer as racers the aforementioned group are an example of. Just my opinion though.

Goddamn, how sick would it be to have KW, 22, TC41, RV2, CP377 and everyone else out there at the same time!?
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sozo 5/22/2012 7:01am
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I need to add Dungey looks like he put himself into a place mentally too. His podium speach started out EXACTLY like it always does... Day went good, had a good start , then he corrected himself.


Alot of this game at this level is confidence it seems... these riders are all sooooo fast!
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