Desalle comment to Leib?

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Edited Date/Time 5/17/2012 6:21pm
Anyone know what he said? Read http://vurbmoto.com/blogs/michael-leib-decisions-decisions/9567/ and got kinda interested, lol ;D
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5/16/2012 9:58am
Leib is a class act.

Period.
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5/16/2012 10:04am
Why were the riders in general mad that he was there to race?
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I hope he stays in the GP's if he can stay with the team, he actually gives a reason to follow the races over there (someone to pull for)
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5/16/2012 10:20am
TeamGreen wrote:
Leib is a class act.

Period.
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Switch wrote:
I hope he stays in the GP's if he can stay with the team, he actually gives a reason to follow the races over there (someone...
I hope he stays in the GP's if he can stay with the team, he actually gives a reason to follow the races over there (someone to pull for)
I'm of the sneaking suspicion that his Heart is in the GPs...

But, I could be wrong.

NOT!
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Switch wrote:
I hope he stays in the GP's if he can stay with the team, he actually gives a reason to follow the races over there (someone...
I hope he stays in the GP's if he can stay with the team, he actually gives a reason to follow the races over there (someone to pull for)
TeamGreen wrote:
I'm of the sneaking suspicion that his Heart is in the GPs...

But, I could be wrong.

NOT!
I remember not long ago DL saying he had plans to run a privateer effort our of the Eleven10 truck (I think) and planning to be at Hangtown, but recently saying he had a decision to make.

Best of luck to him either way, seems like a stand up guy with a good head on his shoulders.
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I think Osbourne is back, since I saw his name and not Leib's on the results for the Brazilian GP
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burn1986 wrote:
I think Osbourne is back, since I saw his name and not Leib's on the results for the Brazilian GP
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5/16/2012 11:43am
I'll have to find the link I was looking at, since the Brazil GP isn't until 05/20/2012.
5/16/2012 11:49am
it is talked about in here

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Sub-Mexican-GP-Dear-Steve…

apprantly he said that he got what he deserved after he got injured,

I think thats pretty low, but can understand why the other riders who stood as a group would be pissed off,

one of Liebs crew in that thread explains that one of the reasons he went out was because he would have a bad gate pic if they went off the free practice results,

until the riders wont stand together, all of them, things wont change
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Was Leib injured in the crash? If so, how bad is it and will it effect the offer he received from Dixon to race the rest of the GPs?
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5/16/2012 12:11pm
mx_563 wrote:
Was Leib injured in the crash? If so, how bad is it and will it effect the offer he received from Dixon to race the rest...
Was Leib injured in the crash? If so, how bad is it and will it effect the offer he received from Dixon to race the rest of the GPs?
Sounds like his descision has been made..wait for it,,,,,
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5/16/2012 12:12pm
From what he dad said on here, the descision was going to come yesterday, I bet we hear something today..
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5/16/2012 12:50pm
scott_nz wrote:
it is talked about in here http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Sub-Mexican-GP-Dear-Steve-Dixon,1238508 apprantly he said that he got what he deserved after he got injured, I think thats pretty low, but...
it is talked about in here

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Sub-Mexican-GP-Dear-Steve…

apprantly he said that he got what he deserved after he got injured,

I think thats pretty low, but can understand why the other riders who stood as a group would be pissed off,

one of Liebs crew in that thread explains that one of the reasons he went out was because he would have a bad gate pic if they went off the free practice results,

until the riders wont stand together, all of them, things wont change
Yeah the comment was wrong. But reality is you guys are always saying there needs to some sort of riders union where they can stand up for issues like dusty tracks, etc. Thats what they were doing and you always have a few that won't do it so they can have an advantage. If they all did it, then what would the outcome have been as far as gate pick? it was a safety issue for them so maybe thats why they were mad. But I think its wrong that they treated him that way. Hey if Chad Reed, Stewart, Dungey, Villo, etc did something like this you would expect all the other riders to follow wouldn't you??? You would be on here bad mouthing the ones that didn't..
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5/16/2012 1:09pm
The '95 Vegas Supercross was protested by many riders after the power and lights went out. McGrath didn't race and Emig won, but it wasn't a unanimous decision to sit out by any means
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5/16/2012 1:30pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2012 1:31pm
scott_nz wrote:
it is talked about in here http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Sub-Mexican-GP-Dear-Steve-Dixon,1238508 apprantly he said that he got what he deserved after he got injured, I think thats pretty low, but...
it is talked about in here

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Sub-Mexican-GP-Dear-Steve…

apprantly he said that he got what he deserved after he got injured,

I think thats pretty low, but can understand why the other riders who stood as a group would be pissed off,

one of Liebs crew in that thread explains that one of the reasons he went out was because he would have a bad gate pic if they went off the free practice results,

until the riders wont stand together, all of them, things wont change
"but can understand why the other riders who stood as a group would be pissed off,"

I applaud Leib for not fallowing the heard, not everyone shares the same opinion or goals. It also doesn't give the other riders the right to wish or cause harm to another rider.
5/16/2012 1:37pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2012 1:38pm
scott_nz wrote:
it is talked about in here http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Sub-Mexican-GP-Dear-Steve-Dixon,1238508 apprantly he said that he got what he deserved after he got injured, I think thats pretty low, but...
it is talked about in here

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Sub-Mexican-GP-Dear-Steve…

apprantly he said that he got what he deserved after he got injured,

I think thats pretty low, but can understand why the other riders who stood as a group would be pissed off,

one of Liebs crew in that thread explains that one of the reasons he went out was because he would have a bad gate pic if they went off the free practice results,

until the riders wont stand together, all of them, things wont change
Voice of reason right here.

Sucks Leib got hurt though. But the riders need to stick together. No gate pick is worth more than the riders' unity IMO.
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5/16/2012 1:38pm
It is easy for other riders to boycott when they are sitting on big fat contracts. Michael seems to be right on the edge on securing something on a longer term basis, and that is not going to happen with him sitting on the sidelines as a fill in rider. Best of luck Mr. Lieb!
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5/16/2012 1:45pm
He wasn't the only one who raced and nobody gave the other crap
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5/16/2012 1:53pm
scott_nz wrote:
it is talked about in here http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Sub-Mexican-GP-Dear-Steve-Dixon,1238508 apprantly he said that he got what he deserved after he got injured, I think thats pretty low, but...
it is talked about in here

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Sub-Mexican-GP-Dear-Steve…

apprantly he said that he got what he deserved after he got injured,

I think thats pretty low, but can understand why the other riders who stood as a group would be pissed off,

one of Liebs crew in that thread explains that one of the reasons he went out was because he would have a bad gate pic if they went off the free practice results,

until the riders wont stand together, all of them, things wont change
Voice of reason right here. Sucks Leib got hurt though. But the riders need to stick together. No gate pick is worth more than the riders'...
Voice of reason right here.

Sucks Leib got hurt though. But the riders need to stick together. No gate pick is worth more than the riders' unity IMO.
EXACTLY WHAT were the Riders "Standing For"...?

"Track Safety"?

Really?

Dust?

Pullllllllease!
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5/16/2012 1:56pm
It is easy for other riders to boycott when they are sitting on big fat contracts. Michael seems to be right on the edge on securing...
It is easy for other riders to boycott when they are sitting on big fat contracts. Michael seems to be right on the edge on securing something on a longer term basis, and that is not going to happen with him sitting on the sidelines as a fill in rider. Best of luck Mr. Lieb!
That is basically what he said in the podcast he did with Matthes. I think he did the right thing. I would like to see him finish the GP's, only because he's on a good bike and not paying to race. If he races Hangtown he is basically spending his own $ to race. He said it cost him $30K out of his own pocket to do SX this year.
5/16/2012 2:13pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2012 2:58pm
boybuc wrote:
He wasn't the only one who raced and nobody gave the other crap
Max Anstie got spat on.

Just listening to Michael Leib on the pod cast - it seems the track wasn't anywhere near the best on Saturday, sounds like it was on the verge of being dangerous. ML himself basically said that it was "OK" but he could see both sides of the argument. I think the whole situation with being in Mexico along with (at least initially) a less than spectacular track really got to the riders. I also appreciate with Sebastien that the riders may not have communicated with him very well but really... I don't think they should go to places like Mexico in the first place. And it does now seem like that was at least part of it.

Where I really lose sympathy with the riders is through their treatment of ML and MA who decided to ride. I'm absolutely shocked that some of the established GP stars think it's OK to behave like this. Spitting at Max, flipping people off etc., disgraceful!
5/16/2012 2:20pm
It is easy for other riders to boycott when they are sitting on big fat contracts. Michael seems to be right on the edge on securing...
It is easy for other riders to boycott when they are sitting on big fat contracts. Michael seems to be right on the edge on securing something on a longer term basis, and that is not going to happen with him sitting on the sidelines as a fill in rider. Best of luck Mr. Lieb!
Most of the GP riders would not be on big contracts out of the top 10 MX1 riders, and top 5 MX2 riders and all of them boycotted, except Leib and Anstie, I bet some of the riders on smaller teams are paying to be there,

if RV, Reed, JS7, DUngey and all the riders it was to dangerous to ride a qualifier, but a fill in rider like Regal, with one top 10 regular priviteers went out and ride to get themselves better starting positions would you feel the same?

No riders boycotted sunday when they had fixed the track did they!

Lieb says himself the track was dusty, and with only 2 quick riders out there would have been a whole lot safer than if he had to start off 21 gate pick with everyone out there,
5/16/2012 2:22pm
scott_nz wrote:
it is talked about in here http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Sub-Mexican-GP-Dear-Steve-Dixon,1238508 apprantly he said that he got what he deserved after he got injured, I think thats pretty low, but...
it is talked about in here

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Sub-Mexican-GP-Dear-Steve…

apprantly he said that he got what he deserved after he got injured,

I think thats pretty low, but can understand why the other riders who stood as a group would be pissed off,

one of Liebs crew in that thread explains that one of the reasons he went out was because he would have a bad gate pic if they went off the free practice results,

until the riders wont stand together, all of them, things wont change
Voice of reason right here. Sucks Leib got hurt though. But the riders need to stick together. No gate pick is worth more than the riders'...
Voice of reason right here.

Sucks Leib got hurt though. But the riders need to stick together. No gate pick is worth more than the riders' unity IMO.
TeamGreen wrote:
EXACTLY WHAT were the Riders "Standing For"...?

"Track Safety"?

Really?

Dust?

Pullllllllease!
do you not think dust on a motocross track is a saftey issue?
5/16/2012 2:23pm
A number of riders were more vocal than others to Leib and Anstie,I think they were pretty aggreived and felt that they were only 2 that broke ranks and went out,it was mentioned on Twitter that ML said he wanted some "race and seat time" and was undoubtedly in a difficult position being a fill-in rider,however I do think he should have stuck with the other riders and shown a bit more respect for them being the series regulars etc,he might be one of them next year afterall,the track problems are not the only issue here,as I said in another thread there were medical and security issues,dangerous local riders and als money issues,and no riders' representative or union doesn't help either,its all too easy to judge though without knowing the ins and outs I guess.
5/16/2012 2:23pm
TeamGreen wrote:
EXACTLY WHAT were the Riders "Standing For"...?

"Track Safety"?

Really?

Dust?

Pullllllllease!
I agree with you. Im not in agreeance with the riders' specific grievances at all.

But I wont ignore the bigger picture. The riders unity is more important than a gate pick, or ML's short term career status. Wrong or not, the riders must stick together above anything else.

That might not make sense to ML at the moment. But if the riders would stick together, then riders in ML's shoes wouldnt be struggling to get paid what they deserve.

He's made mains in SX. In sold out stadiums. And Im sure he never got his costs recouped with the pitance he got paid for his services by the promoters. Why? Because the riders dont stick together. The specific reasons for the boycott arent relevant. But in this case, its even more ironic that a guy in ML's case would cross the picket line when its a guy like him that stands to gain the most from the riders finally taking control of this sport thru some form of unity. He helped himself out in the short term, but actions like that cost him and his compatriots in the long term. Im not bashing the kid personally, as most everyone in his shoes would have made the same mistake, so please dont think I have anything against ML. This isnt really specific to him. I agree with boybuc in that ML has been unfairly pinpointed in this issue. All of them who broke ranks deserve an equal share of the backlash.

The stick and ball guys have it figured out. I shouldnt need to explain it as much as I have. Youre smart TG, you should know this.
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5/16/2012 2:36pm
Taken from MotoXAddicts interview fro Michael Leib today:

I heard you got a lot of comments from the riders; Desalle and other riders came to you and were not happy with your decision?

I got a lot of flak from the riders. I don’t want to mention what Desalle said, but yes a lot of guys were not too happy with me. I mean it was a decision that Steve Dixon and I made, I was pretty surprised by Desalles comments. I was disappointed with their attitude.

For the rest of the interview and his thoughts on Mexico, Steve Dixon, if he is racing Brazil or coming back home to America Click Here To Read
5/16/2012 2:42pm
TeamGreen wrote:
EXACTLY WHAT were the Riders "Standing For"...?

"Track Safety"?

Really?

Dust?

Pullllllllease!
I agree with you. Im not in agreeance with the riders' specific grievances at all. But I wont ignore the bigger picture. The riders unity is...
I agree with you. Im not in agreeance with the riders' specific grievances at all.

But I wont ignore the bigger picture. The riders unity is more important than a gate pick, or ML's short term career status. Wrong or not, the riders must stick together above anything else.

That might not make sense to ML at the moment. But if the riders would stick together, then riders in ML's shoes wouldnt be struggling to get paid what they deserve.

He's made mains in SX. In sold out stadiums. And Im sure he never got his costs recouped with the pitance he got paid for his services by the promoters. Why? Because the riders dont stick together. The specific reasons for the boycott arent relevant. But in this case, its even more ironic that a guy in ML's case would cross the picket line when its a guy like him that stands to gain the most from the riders finally taking control of this sport thru some form of unity. He helped himself out in the short term, but actions like that cost him and his compatriots in the long term. Im not bashing the kid personally, as most everyone in his shoes would have made the same mistake, so please dont think I have anything against ML. This isnt really specific to him. I agree with boybuc in that ML has been unfairly pinpointed in this issue. All of them who broke ranks deserve an equal share of the backlash.

The stick and ball guys have it figured out. I shouldnt need to explain it as much as I have. Youre smart TG, you should know this.
well said, if the riders in the night show at A1 or Hangtown all refused to ride for 10 minutes and made a statement, things might change, if they were willing to go futher than that the next time, if riders will go out for their own personal gain and not think of the whole group in these situations, what is happening now will continue, right now the promotors and govening body know that the riders will not stick together, so they can do what they want,
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5/16/2012 2:57pm
How much money does Desalle make?

I'm just curious.
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EXACTLY WHAT were the Riders "Standing For"...?

"Track Safety"?

Really?

Dust?

Pullllllllease!

I hope they were standing for these things! Give me a break. If you went to work and there was a gas leak and it could or couldn't be dangerous to you and 90% of your co workers decided not to work just in case it was, and two stayed because they wanted to get brownie points ( or better gate pick in this case) would you not be upset with those co-workers? How many times have the GP riders ever done this? It must have been bad for them to feel so strongly about it.

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