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Edited Date/Time 5/2/2012 10:03pm
Wouldn't it be in the best interest of them to make a run at a 450 mx title with Barcia this year. He's gotta be moving up to factory next year. With Eli in the lites and Barcia in the 450 they have a really good chance at sweeping both mx titles right? Just a thought.
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hothands 5/2/2012 11:39am
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Do you honestly believe that Geico Honda could make that decision without approval from Factory Honda?
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Wouldn't it be in the best interest of them to make a run at a 450 mx title with Barcia this year. He's gotta be moving...
Wouldn't it be in the best interest of them to make a run at a 450 mx title with Barcia this year. He's gotta be moving up to factory next year. With Eli in the lites and Barcia in the 450 they have a really good chance at sweeping both mx titles right? Just a thought.
good point. It's not like Honda has a true title contender, as is. Shorty could get it done on pure consistency, but he has to count on Dungey failures. Barcia could be a true contender day one on that Honda. Oh. I just switched my insurance to Geico the other day. Saved me three hundred bucks per six months.
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msp138 5/2/2012 11:48am
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Metty rode against the factory Honda guys on a 450. I don't really think they care as long as a Honda is at the top spot. Look at all the teams that are not factory but get support two two, chapparel, and geico. If they cared they wouldn't support any team with factory support.
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DownSouth 5/2/2012 12:06pm
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How many effin' times must it be confirmed that Barcia is going for the outdoor title in the 250 class in his last year on little bikes? Do you guys just sit around all day with a tub of vaseline daydreaming about Barcia on a 450?

And what would be the point we have all been told that since JS is going yellow that he will go 24-0 so why does Geico ruin a shot at the 250 championship.

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hothands 5/2/2012 12:09pm
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Metty rode against the factory Honda guys on a 450. I don't really think they care as long as a Honda is at the top spot...
Metty rode against the factory Honda guys on a 450. I don't really think they care as long as a Honda is at the top spot. Look at all the teams that are not factory but get support two two, chapparel, and geico. If they cared they wouldn't support any team with factory support.
Honda wants Barcia on the 250, so that is where he is going to be. If Honda wanted him to be on the 450 they would tell Geico to put him on one or they would move him to the factory rig. My point is that pretty much every decision Geico makes has to go through Honda.
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Ryno23 5/2/2012 12:10pm
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Vaseline doesn't work that great. Jergens is much better. Just an idea for those with that problem...
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Xeno 5/2/2012 12:16pm
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What's the hurry? Barcia will only be better next year.
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msp138 5/2/2012 12:20pm
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DownSouth wrote:
How many effin' times must it be confirmed that Barcia is going for the outdoor title in the 250 class in his last year on little...
How many effin' times must it be confirmed that Barcia is going for the outdoor title in the 250 class in his last year on little bikes? Do you guys just sit around all day with a tub of vaseline daydreaming about Barcia on a 450?

And what would be the point we have all been told that since JS is going yellow that he will go 24-0 so why does Geico ruin a shot at the 250 championship.
Looks like you know from experience about the Vaseline because you had to bring js7 into a thread right? If you'd get your head out of your ass you would maybe think 1. Barcia rides a 450 outdoors way faster than the 250 in the respected classes 2. There is a very real chance he won't win the title in that class with that bike outdoors 3. Why the fuck did they let him run it last year if it's such a stupid choice?
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hothands 5/2/2012 12:49pm
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DownSouth wrote:
How many effin' times must it be confirmed that Barcia is going for the outdoor title in the 250 class in his last year on little...
How many effin' times must it be confirmed that Barcia is going for the outdoor title in the 250 class in his last year on little bikes? Do you guys just sit around all day with a tub of vaseline daydreaming about Barcia on a 450?

And what would be the point we have all been told that since JS is going yellow that he will go 24-0 so why does Geico ruin a shot at the 250 championship.
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Looks like you know from experience about the Vaseline because you had to bring js7 into a thread right? If you'd get your head out of...
Looks like you know from experience about the Vaseline because you had to bring js7 into a thread right? If you'd get your head out of your ass you would maybe think 1. Barcia rides a 450 outdoors way faster than the 250 in the respected classes 2. There is a very real chance he won't win the title in that class with that bike outdoors 3. Why the fuck did they let him run it last year if it's such a stupid choice?
I think he was joking about JS, just fyi.
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DownSouth 5/2/2012 12:52pm
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Looks like you know from experience about the Vaseline because you had to bring js7 into a thread right? If you'd get your head out of...
Looks like you know from experience about the Vaseline because you had to bring js7 into a thread right? If you'd get your head out of your ass you would maybe think 1. Barcia rides a 450 outdoors way faster than the 250 in the respected classes 2. There is a very real chance he won't win the title in that class with that bike outdoors 3. Why the fuck did they let him run it last year if it's such a stupid choice?
I have my head in my ass but you know better than team Honda what to do with their riders? When did you start collecting a paycheck for your work as a consultant to the factory teams?

1. Four races on a no pressure 450 fill in ride proves he is way faster on 450?

2. There is a very real chance he will not win a title against veteran champions in the 450 class.

3. He was way out of contention for the 250 title at the time due to illness and the wrist injury so they let him run the 450 because Canard and Grant were out injured and Windham only did a partial schedule. Honda wanted a bike on the track and Barcia got the call.

The fact is Honda has 2 title contenders in the 250 class and has better odds of taking home that title than throwing one rookie into the 450 class.
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msp138 5/2/2012 12:58pm
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msp138 wrote:
Looks like you know from experience about the Vaseline because you had to bring js7 into a thread right? If you'd get your head out of...
Looks like you know from experience about the Vaseline because you had to bring js7 into a thread right? If you'd get your head out of your ass you would maybe think 1. Barcia rides a 450 outdoors way faster than the 250 in the respected classes 2. There is a very real chance he won't win the title in that class with that bike outdoors 3. Why the fuck did they let him run it last year if it's such a stupid choice?
DownSouth wrote:
I have my head in my ass but you know better than team Honda what to do with their riders? When did you start collecting a...
I have my head in my ass but you know better than team Honda what to do with their riders? When did you start collecting a paycheck for your work as a consultant to the factory teams?

1. Four races on a no pressure 450 fill in ride proves he is way faster on 450?

2. There is a very real chance he will not win a title against veteran champions in the 450 class.

3. He was way out of contention for the 250 title at the time due to illness and the wrist injury so they let him run the 450 because Canard and Grant were out injured and Windham only did a partial schedule. Honda wanted a bike on the track and Barcia got the call.

The fact is Honda has 2 title contenders in the 250 class and has better odds of taking home that title than throwing one rookie into the 450 class.
Yeah we all know rookies have no chance at a title in the 450 class.
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DownSouth 5/2/2012 1:08pm
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hothands wrote:
I think he was joking about JS, just fyi.
I was kidding.

Apparently he is as tired of the #7 threads as I have grown of the 'Barcia should ride a 450' idea when Barcia himself, and everyone around his program (Stanton, Larocco) have all repeatedly stated that this year is all about the 250 sx and mx titles.
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DownSouth 5/2/2012 1:09pm
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msp138 wrote:
Yeah we all know rookies have no chance at a title in the 450 class.
It is good to see that we agree on that point.
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hothands 5/2/2012 1:11pm
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hothands wrote:
I think he was joking about JS, just fyi.
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I was kidding. Apparently he is as tired of the #7 threads as I have grown of the 'Barcia should ride a 450' idea when Barcia...
I was kidding.

Apparently he is as tired of the #7 threads as I have grown of the 'Barcia should ride a 450' idea when Barcia himself, and everyone around his program (Stanton, Larocco) have all repeatedly stated that this year is all about the 250 sx and mx titles.
I'm tired of it too. Although if people didn't keep posting the same thing over and over again there would be a lot less posts on Vital during the week lol.
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lucero10x 5/2/2012 1:27pm
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Guys, we all know what they said they are going to do. I respect the fact that they are going after the 250 mx championship at Geico Honda with Barcia. It just seems like a GREAT opportunity to take advantage of the weak 450 field and the untested outdoor machine of Ryan Dungeys.

It's kinda like Obama running for President in 08. Although there was plenty of argument why he shouldn't run, the opportunity was flippin golden. Sometimes you have to capitalize on current opportunities. You never know when team Honda will have such a good chance at the title.
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msp138 5/2/2012 1:55pm
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Guys, we all know what they said they are going to do. I respect the fact that they are going after the 250 mx championship at...
Guys, we all know what they said they are going to do. I respect the fact that they are going after the 250 mx championship at Geico Honda with Barcia. It just seems like a GREAT opportunity to take advantage of the weak 450 field and the untested outdoor machine of Ryan Dungeys.

It's kinda like Obama running for President in 08. Although there was plenty of argument why he shouldn't run, the opportunity was flippin golden. Sometimes you have to capitalize on current opportunities. You never know when team Honda will have such a good chance at the title.
That's all I was saying. As a team the idea of winning SX west and east then taking both outdoor titles would be good. I never said he was going too. I never said I think they should. I said wouldn't it be in the best interest of the team. This wasn't a I want barcia to ride a 450 thread just a hey wouldn't you roll the dice to have that record to your teams name thread
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Vaseline doesn't work that great. Jergens is much better. Just an idea for those with that problem...
So true, and don't use shampoo in the shower either...it tends to dry out, errr...skin...badly.
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Ryno23 5/2/2012 2:20pm
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Ryno23 wrote:
Vaseline doesn't work that great. Jergens is much better. Just an idea for those with that problem...
thephoenix wrote:
So true, and don't use shampoo in the shower either...it tends to dry out, errr...skin...badly.
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It's MY soap and I'll wash as FAST as I want to with it!!! Laughing

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Titan1 5/2/2012 2:44pm
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msp138 wrote:
Wouldn't it be in the best interest of them to make a run at a 450 mx title with Barcia this year. He's gotta be moving...
Wouldn't it be in the best interest of them to make a run at a 450 mx title with Barcia this year. He's gotta be moving up to factory next year. With Eli in the lites and Barcia in the 450 they have a really good chance at sweeping both mx titles right? Just a thought.
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good point. It's not like Honda has a true title contender, as is. Shorty could get it done on pure consistency, but he has to count...
good point. It's not like Honda has a true title contender, as is. Shorty could get it done on pure consistency, but he has to count on Dungey failures. Barcia could be a true contender day one on that Honda. Oh. I just switched my insurance to Geico the other day. Saved me three hundred bucks per six months.
But what if you run your car up a pole? Smile
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lucero10x 5/2/2012 3:13pm
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But what if you run your car up a pole? Smile
then there is a good chance i am going to jail. Wink
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DownSouth wrote:
How many effin' times must it be confirmed that Barcia is going for the outdoor title in the 250 class in his last year on little...
How many effin' times must it be confirmed that Barcia is going for the outdoor title in the 250 class in his last year on little bikes? Do you guys just sit around all day with a tub of vaseline daydreaming about Barcia on a 450?

And what would be the point we have all been told that since JS is going yellow that he will go 24-0 so why does Geico ruin a shot at the 250 championship.
msp138 wrote:
Looks like you know from experience about the Vaseline because you had to bring js7 into a thread right? If you'd get your head out of...
Looks like you know from experience about the Vaseline because you had to bring js7 into a thread right? If you'd get your head out of your ass you would maybe think 1. Barcia rides a 450 outdoors way faster than the 250 in the respected classes 2. There is a very real chance he won't win the title in that class with that bike outdoors 3. Why the fuck did they let him run it last year if it's such a stupid choice?
2. There is a very real chance he won't win the title in that class with that bike outdoors!!!

Bold statement! How so? Have you ridden it? HIS bike that is.
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TDeath21 5/2/2012 10:03pm
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Although Barcia seemed way better on that 450, there's no reason to move up full time yet. Moving up a year late is better than moving up a year early. I'm betting he'll be better outdoors this year than he was last year. However, I still think Musquin takes first and Roczen second in the final standings.

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