Who would you pick for the MXdN?

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Edited Date/Time 8/13/2012 9:14pm
I'm not trying to stir any drama, just a curiosity because someone asked in another thread. With the possibility of no RV(I make no claims of anything other than we know nothing) or Canard for the MXdN, who would your choices be?

I would go with:

MX1: Dungey
MX2: Tomac
MX3: Barcia
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4/24/2012 3:26am
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To be fair to you Stan, at least your three picks are likely to be fit come the time to race.Smile
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4/24/2012 3:27am
Whichever three riders that aren't injured
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4/24/2012 5:09am
I think it's too early.

Let's see how the Nationals go and who is heathy enough for the MXdN. Winning a 250 title indoors may have nothing to do with being fast enough outdoors.

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4/24/2012 6:59am
I'll go with Musquin, Frossard and Paulin. Oh, maybe you meant for team USA ? Barcia, RV and Dungey seems good on paper. I'd love to see Stewart there, tough.
4/24/2012 7:06am
rangot wrote:
I'll go with Musquin, Frossard and Paulin. Oh, maybe you meant for team USA ? Barcia, RV and Dungey seems good on paper. I'd love to...
I'll go with Musquin, Frossard and Paulin. Oh, maybe you meant for team USA ? Barcia, RV and Dungey seems good on paper. I'd love to see Stewart there, tough.
if all your riders are fit then there will be some tough choices to make for team france! on paper they have 5 or 6 riders that could all be up front.

For us (if we can have deano) i'd go for:-

Wilson (450)
Searle (450)
Anstie/ Nicholls (250f)

if no wilson then:-

Searle (450)
Nicholls (350)
Anstie (250)

USA - I'd love to see stewart/ barcia/ RV- but stewarts not likely to show up outdoors, RV is a question mark with the supposed injury- anybodys guess at this time of year! WAAAAAAAAY too early to be picking des nations teams!
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4/24/2012 8:12am
if all your riders are fit then there will be some tough choices to make for team france! on paper they have 5 or 6 riders...
if all your riders are fit then there will be some tough choices to make for team france! on paper they have 5 or 6 riders that could all be up front.

For us (if we can have deano) i'd go for:-

Wilson (450)
Searle (450)
Anstie/ Nicholls (250f)

if no wilson then:-

Searle (450)
Nicholls (350)
Anstie (250)

USA - I'd love to see stewart/ barcia/ RV- but stewarts not likely to show up outdoors, RV is a question mark with the supposed injury- anybodys guess at this time of year! WAAAAAAAAY too early to be picking des nations teams!
you think Nicholls would be better than SImpson?

i think would rather have Nicholls MX2 n Simpson Mx3
4/24/2012 8:27am
With my own presumptions on who will be healthy and who won't:

Dungey MX1
Osbourne MX2
Barcia MX3
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4/24/2012 8:30am
If RV us not available:

MX1 - Dunge
MX2 - Barcia
MX3 - Short
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4/24/2012 8:32am
I think you meant to say RV. But I would definitely go with Dungey in MX1, Baggett/Barcia/Tomac for MX2 (depending on who does best in the nationals), and Andrew Short for MX3 if he can get anywhere close to his 2010 form.
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MX1 Searle good sand rider and done well on the 450 last year.
MX2 Wilson one of the best 250f riders in the world out doors.
MX3 Simpson or Nicholls. Simpson is the more natural 450 rider but if Jake continues running up top 5 in mx2 and practices on his 350 in Belgium all the time then possibly him.


USA

MX1 RV
MX2 Barcia/Osbourne/Tomac
MX3 Dungey

If RV is hurt then Barcia for the MX3 and Dungey to MX1 and Tomac for MX2.

France

MX1 Frossard
MX2 Musquin
MX3 Paulin with Pourcel as a back up. France is by far USA's biggest threat in years. Good sand riders who are all fast.



Here's my pick for the podium this year.

1st France if France can have good starts on the day and stay injury free. I think that they have potentially top 3 in every class.

2nd USA I think RV will hold his own and be close for the overall in MX1. But I think that deep sand will hurt the USA a bit more than they think. Although Roger Decoster will get them training in it as soon as he can. If they get a good solid 2-3 weeks in deep Floridian sand near the end of the nationals and 2 weeks prep in Belgium then I would put USA first. The riders are skilled enough to win on any track, but the sand there is so different and takes time to learn and setup the bike on.

3rd GBR Got some good sand riders in there but to score 3 top 5's in all classes will be hard. That is what it will take though to be close to the above 2.

4th AUS, third rider will find it hard in Lommel to crack the top 10 regardless of class. Reed and Metcalfe will do just fine.
4/24/2012 8:45am
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GBR MX1 Searle good sand rider and done well on the 450 last year. MX2 Wilson one of the best 250f riders in the world out...
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MX1 Searle good sand rider and done well on the 450 last year.
MX2 Wilson one of the best 250f riders in the world out doors.
MX3 Simpson or Nicholls. Simpson is the more natural 450 rider but if Jake continues running up top 5 in mx2 and practices on his 350 in Belgium all the time then possibly him.


USA

MX1 RV
MX2 Barcia/Osbourne/Tomac
MX3 Dungey

If RV is hurt then Barcia for the MX3 and Dungey to MX1 and Tomac for MX2.

France

MX1 Frossard
MX2 Musquin
MX3 Paulin with Pourcel as a back up. France is by far USA's biggest threat in years. Good sand riders who are all fast.



Here's my pick for the podium this year.

1st France if France can have good starts on the day and stay injury free. I think that they have potentially top 3 in every class.

2nd USA I think RV will hold his own and be close for the overall in MX1. But I think that deep sand will hurt the USA a bit more than they think. Although Roger Decoster will get them training in it as soon as he can. If they get a good solid 2-3 weeks in deep Floridian sand near the end of the nationals and 2 weeks prep in Belgium then I would put USA first. The riders are skilled enough to win on any track, but the sand there is so different and takes time to learn and setup the bike on.

3rd GBR Got some good sand riders in there but to score 3 top 5's in all classes will be hard. That is what it will take though to be close to the above 2.

4th AUS, third rider will find it hard in Lommel to crack the top 10 regardless of class. Reed and Metcalfe will do just fine.
no belgium in the top 4?! with a team like:-

desalle/strijbos
de dyker
roelants!!

Be a good bet for podium/win
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4/24/2012 8:49am
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That would not be our "A" team... That would be our "W" team and yes they would still win. LOL
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4/24/2012 8:51am
TDeath21 wrote:
I think you meant to say RV. But I would definitely go with Dungey in MX1, Baggett/Barcia/Tomac for MX2 (depending on who does best in the...
I think you meant to say RV. But I would definitely go with Dungey in MX1, Baggett/Barcia/Tomac for MX2 (depending on who does best in the nationals), and Andrew Short for MX3 if he can get anywhere close to his 2010 form.
Definitely meant RV. Posting from my phone and it got autocorrected.

Essentially what my point was is this season has been full of injuries to 450 riders. There is a real possibility that we will only have 1 of our top riders. Would you choose a 2nd tier 450 rider for MX3 or one of our top 250 riders.
4/24/2012 8:57am
I honestly think that our chances at Lommel are going to be shaky regardless of WHO we send. That race is going to be B-R-U-T-A-L!!
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4/24/2012 9:06am
TDeath21 wrote:
I think you meant to say RV. But I would definitely go with Dungey in MX1, Baggett/Barcia/Tomac for MX2 (depending on who does best in the...
I think you meant to say RV. But I would definitely go with Dungey in MX1, Baggett/Barcia/Tomac for MX2 (depending on who does best in the nationals), and Andrew Short for MX3 if he can get anywhere close to his 2010 form.
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Definitely meant RV. Posting from my phone and it got autocorrected. Essentially what my point was is this season has been full of injuries to 450...
Definitely meant RV. Posting from my phone and it got autocorrected.

Essentially what my point was is this season has been full of injuries to 450 riders. There is a real possibility that we will only have 1 of our top riders. Would you choose a 2nd tier 450 rider for MX3 or one of our top 250 riders.
Short would have had two top 3 finishes (and maybe a win) in 2010 had Townley not cleaned him out. I feel confident that he can give us two solid motos, and I'm even more confident in Dungey. Our 250 rider scares me a lot. If it's not Short in MX3 then maybe Weimer or Barcia. I would definitely try to keep them riding what they rode in the nationals, although Barcia looked way better on the 450 than the 250. Remember a second tier rider from the US will still be better than most other country's MX3 rider.
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Searle MX1
Nicholls MX3
Anstie MX2

Don't think Simpson is fast enough. Deano is unlikely to be able to ride and I don't think he is much of a sand rider anyway. But we still we need him for future years so the ACU better sort it out.

France

Frossard is injured and I heard out for the season so probably not him.

Pourcel MX1
Musquin MX2
Paulin Mx3

Belguim

Desalle MX1
Roelants MX2
Stribos/Big ken MX3

USA

Who knows, if Dungey is healthy then hes defiantly in, RV if healthy. Then I have no idea in the 250's.
4/24/2012 12:45pm
I sincerely hope that team Belgium brings their a-game and their riders are healthy when the d-day comes.
And it's going to be a blast see Jeffrey H. smoke everyone on a 250F! It's shame that he's the only real threat in team Netherlands...
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4/24/2012 12:53pm
Dungey, Weimer, Tomac
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4/24/2012 1:04pm
Maybe we should wait until we are into the nationals and see who is riding well and who is healthy. We have a lot of riders left.

But since RV is out this means the Americans are the underdogs because the Europeans now have a huge advantage of riding on a home track and everyone knows that Americans cannot ride sand tracks.The Euros will be expected to win so no big deal, so if the American win it will be a triple job well done.
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4/24/2012 1:15pm
muGz.147 wrote:
I honestly think that our chances at Lommel are going to be shaky regardless of WHO we send. That race is going to be B-R-U-T-A-L!!
Im with you on this one!
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4/24/2012 2:28pm
ALESSI! and whoever else. I'd really like to Mike get a shot before he ends his career.
4/24/2012 2:35pm
NZ team,

MX1 Josh Coppins
MX2 Hamish Dobbin
MX3 Cody Cooper,


US team I would pick

MX1 Dungey
MX2 Baggett
MX3 Barcia
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4/24/2012 2:58pm
It's often all change at the end of the year anyway,France were without their top rider (Frossard) last year,Belgium were without theirs (Desalle),Italy without Philipaerts too,gutted RV is out for the USA,I just hope everyone else is fit enough,this year has been so bad for injuries,Frossard out already,but hopefully won't be out long
USA,
RV
Barcia
Tomac

BELGIUM
Desalle
Ken
Roelants

GREAT BRITAIN
Searle
Wilson
Mckenzie

ITALY
Cairoli
Phillipaerts
Lupino

FRANCE
Paulin
Frossard
Musquin

AUSTRALIA
Reed
Metcalfe
?
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4/24/2012 10:16pm
Dungey MX1
Barcia MX3
Tomac MX2
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4/24/2012 10:24pm
dungey mx1
baggett/tomac/bogle-mx2
short/brayton/millsaps-mx3

this team is usually selected on how riders are doing in their respective championships. barcia has done nothing outdoors. his regional sx titles are irrelevant to MXdN and outdoors. on top of that he is the worst representation for america as shown in bercy late 2011 and houston just a month ago.
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4/25/2012 1:00am
AUS

Reed (MX1) - pemding fitness
Metcalfe (MX3)
Kirk Gibbs (MX2) - kills it at Murray Bridge
to replace Reed best bet would be Marmont for consistency or see how the Nationals go with Reardon, Bopping and Co.

For USA
Dungey (MX1)
Brayton/Milsaps (MX3)
MX2 - ??? See after the outdoors
4/25/2012 1:14am Edited Date/Time 4/25/2012 1:20am
Far too early and all that but.......

Great Britain

Tommy Searle - MX1 (Obvious reasons).
Dean Wilson - MX2 (If not Dean then Max Anstie - MA's running a very fast pace so far this year and is good in the sand).
Jake Nicholls - MX3 (Shaun can be fast too but Jake seems to be really flying these days. The 350 isn't a problem for him).

USA

Ryan Dungey - MX1 (No brainer, he has to be there).
Zach Osborne - MX2 (Zach knows the circuit and should be up to top form in time. Otherwise Tomac or Baggett ).
Justin Barcia - MX3 (With RV gone there is no reason on earth to leave this guy out, he's fast and can ride the 450).

France

Gautier Paulin - MX1 (Or Pourcel of course).
Marvin Musquin - MX2
Steven Frossard - MX3 (Difficult to find a French guy who really loves the sand but I think SF is the best one).
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4/25/2012 1:16am
After what Barcia did at Bercy, sending him over there would just give the French a reason to clean him out. France is the main threat to beat the US, so why give them that extra incentive to go for take outs? Although he is a good sand rider, his style and aggressiveness with other riders really scares me as far as two consistent motos go.
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Tand16 wrote:
AUS Reed (MX1) - pemding fitness Metcalfe (MX3) Kirk Gibbs (MX2) - kills it at Murray Bridge to replace Reed best bet would be Marmont for...
AUS

Reed (MX1) - pemding fitness
Metcalfe (MX3)
Kirk Gibbs (MX2) - kills it at Murray Bridge
to replace Reed best bet would be Marmont for consistency or see how the Nationals go with Reardon, Bopping and Co.

For USA
Dungey (MX1)
Brayton/Milsaps (MX3)
MX2 - ??? See after the outdoors
Depending how he's going towards the end of the season, I'd put Ferris in there somewhere. He'll be getting good experience in the sand

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