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The way I see it is a rider can only sit back and consolidate a position if his pit board tells him that's all they need,providing they they have someone doing the maths of course,there are times when teams need every point and particularly in the early Motos when they don't know what's going to happen in the next race or your team mate
When Everts passed Stewart,some say 2nd place would do to take the overall,but a tiring Tedesco was losing places,then he crashed,depending on where he remounted and finished would depend on weather Stewart would have had to win the race or not,Stewart himself nearly crashed in the whoops and that would've been it.Another factor is that Tedesco could've gone down again
Every point counts ,sure its a team event in the end but its made up of individual races that count for the overall,the same as any championship,so riders go to do their best and at the end of the day racers will race I disagree that if Herlings beats the Ryans it won't mean much,unless its not straight up like they crash out,personal wins mean a lot to riders too
Back on topic I think the fastest proper MX riders are Roczen,Wilson and Bagget,but if Musquin can get back to where he was before his injuries,he'll be there too
Back on topic, I am really excited about the ama outdoor 250 class this year- i think its going to be the best racing we've seen for a long time! Just hope all the contenders are 100% fit for hangtown!
It will be a difficult decision for Roger picking a 250 rider for the des nations this year!
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regarding barcia- i dont think he will be in championship contention, i'd say baggett/tomac/bogle will be the top american riders in the lites outdoors this year. If Barcia does step it up this year and start to win races he will have to make big improvements on previous years efforts on the 250f- he's hardly won anything outdoors on the 250 and never been anywhere near the title chase!
In the last mxon, RV and RD were not pushing it in the first motos and did not push it. When they felt they were down the took 1st and 2nd. Roger is smart, I am sure he tells them they are the fastest team, not to crash, and get good overalls. Stewart was told not to try to beat Everts because we knew he could crash doing so. He gave up the personal win to make sure the team won. I was suprised he did this because this went against his nature. He either won or crashed, In the next year Stewart decided he would battle for the moto win, crashed and could not restart.
I guess it is good there is a carrot that dangles for the individual win, because if that did not exist, the Americans would dominate year after year with no recognition of any other country.
"sure its a team event in the end but its made up of individual races that count for the overal"
The announcers said it best. Every Euro team self destructs. They fall apart at the seams and crash out. The Americans often win by attrition. You cannot crash and win, so don't crash, The Euros never get good overalls because many of them go for the infividual win because their team has little chance of winning.
",personal wins mean a lot to riders too"
Fortunately we have a Roger, he knows that is not what is important, he tells riders like Stewart to bypass the glory for the individual win. The American team always says it. It is a team effort because they disregard the individual glory to get the prize and they do it year after year.
So can we sticky this bad boy or what?
The Americans win Mxon last year.
And the year before.
And the year before that.
And the year before that.
And the year before that.
Which excuse is the best one?
If the Americans won the World soccer championship year after year like they do the MXON, No countrys fans would say they are better than the Americas
The Americans win MXON year after year after year, that is the point. The Americans are better. Trying to say an individual is better in a team sport means very little..
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I never saw Stewart's pitboard in that last Moto its be interesting to know what it said when Tedesco didn't come round in his previous position.To say Stewart would crash running Everts pace is a great compliment,I'm sure he'll appreciate that.If if both Ryans say they backed of in those Motos that's fine,Bagget's uncharacteristically poor results put a big dent in the teams chances (maybe Roger should of told him to go easy and avoid crashing?) and they may have regretted not giving 100% earlier,maybe not
There are definately times when settling for a place will do,however there are times when that extra place could be needed,as in the scenarios I've stated,just as an example,I find the contradictions confusing though saying the. MXdN is the only time we get to see which rider is bette, but then when some get beaten they're not giving 100% as its about the team,but that's all debateble I guess
Since you "Live " for these type of threads,maybe this one has made your day,even moreso arguing with some "Euros" here and not you're fellow compatriots
250- Well, theres to many to count as of now but i think Wilson, Roczen, Baggett, Musquin, Tomac, Bogle, Barcia, Durham, Stewart...
Somewhere along those lines, Although i wouldn't be surprised if all those riders got a moto win..
What would be cool though would be that a different rider for every round got the overall..
To be honest though I just want to see all these guy's ride good and stay healthy. If they can all keep them selves from getting hurt we will see some great racing no matter who is out front.
Watch it be 105 this year, lol.
So are we on day 30 or 29?
Baggett, Barcia and Tomac are the three main guys that could do it... this title is too close to call!
450s might not be as interesting, even if Stewart does ride, it seems unlikely he will finish the season. RV against Dungey seems the main rivalry there unless, guys like Grant and Alessi find their A game and can mix it up. Gutted for BT as well.
When was Shorty riding at E Street?
Have fun at Hangtown...
Rex
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