pingree tweet about stewart

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4/14/2012 10:54am
MR. X wrote:
Maybe his team did give him permission to ride other brands so he can tell them exactly where he would like improvemnts
mxb2 wrote:
LMFAO!, really?
MR. X wrote:
...well not really, I just wanted to join in the latest Stewart thread.
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4/14/2012 11:21am
MXerDW wrote:
I found this tweet more interesting.

@EngineIceDave There is no JS7 display bike at JGR
Oh man..... music to my ears!! I don't ever want to see him back on a Yamaha.
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MXerDW wrote:
I found this tweet more interesting.

@EngineIceDave There is no JS7 display bike at JGR
R-acer wrote:
Oh man..... music to my ears!! I don't ever want to see him back on a Yamaha.
Careful what you wish for, it could be that you'd never see him on any bike again Wink His track record the last three years
doesn't bode well as somebody you'd want to hire. Just a few short month's ago JGR was the BEST team, the ONLY team he wanted to ride for.

We'll see though.
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4/14/2012 11:27am Edited Date/Time 4/14/2012 11:28am
Wonder why Ping didn't whip out his camera phone and snap a few shots?
Or anyone else there for that matter?

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if he were smart he'd try the kawi and the honda too..just to make sure he picks the bike that fits him best.
Won't matter at all - its a known fact Ol Stew doesn't know much about setting up a bike, what works, what doesn't. He hates testing. True fact.

Maybe someone ELSE can test them all and then tell him what he wants! Whistling

Or maybe he should just admit that he is getting beat regularly by the new kids and accept that as reality.
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Run for your lives, hide your women and children.
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4/14/2012 11:52am
MXerDW wrote:
I found this tweet more interesting.

@EngineIceDave There is no JS7 display bike at JGR
R-acer wrote:
Oh man..... music to my ears!! I don't ever want to see him back on a Yamaha.
Dano39 wrote:
Careful what you wish for, it could be that you'd never see him on any bike again ;) His track record the last three years doesn't...
Careful what you wish for, it could be that you'd never see him on any bike again Wink His track record the last three years
doesn't bode well as somebody you'd want to hire. Just a few short month's ago JGR was the BEST team, the ONLY team he wanted to ride for.

We'll see though.
The team is awesome I'm sure, but they are stuck with a bike that doesn't work for James. I would rather him not race at all instead of looking the way he has since getting on this bike.
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4/14/2012 11:53am
This is getting crazy. If he was really released from JGR from his contract then you would think we would hear about it from a public statement. The fact that Engine Ice Dave tweeted there is no JS7 bike under the tent makes me wonder if they really did part ways. All I can say is WOW!
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4/14/2012 11:54am
Now Suzuki can lowball Stewie a little bit. Maybe they weren't so dumb fielding one rider after all. This is juicy stuff! It's great to be an MX fan and vital member these days, ha ha!
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4/14/2012 12:00pm
Any wall posters for the fans there or anything bearing JS7 besides no bike?
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4/14/2012 12:04pm
level wrote:
This is getting crazy. If he was really released from JGR from his contract then you would think we would hear about it from a public...
This is getting crazy. If he was really released from JGR from his contract then you would think we would hear about it from a public statement. The fact that Engine Ice Dave tweeted there is no JS7 bike under the tent makes me wonder if they really did part ways. All I can say is WOW!
You mean have an actual moto journalist from an actual moto outlet ask him an actual question....HA

No, we get hard hitting stuff like this....

For the record, Stewart has never uttered one bad thing about his team or bike. But he doesn’t have to for people to get talking. For example, while it seems widely known and understood that James doesn’t get along with the current generation Yamaha, he has never once actually said that in an interview. And even now, while rumors swirl that he could be out at JGR, either by his decision, theirs, or both, you’ve never heard a word from Stewart, not once, about not liking the team or wanting out. Somehow, with Stewart, these things either leak out or simply get made up.

....rather than just pick up the phone and ask him, or when he's at the races, ask him, or when he's doing a press conference, ask him.
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4/14/2012 12:10pm
mx_563 wrote:
Now Suzuki can lowball Stewie a little bit. Maybe they weren't so dumb fielding one rider after all. This is juicy stuff! It's great to be...
Now Suzuki can lowball Stewie a little bit. Maybe they weren't so dumb fielding one rider after all. This is juicy stuff! It's great to be an MX fan and vital member these days, ha ha!
Juicy stuff? It is llke HS bullshit.

Minor leagues.
4/14/2012 12:16pm
MR. X wrote:
...well not really, I just wanted to join in the latest Stewart thread.
Don't worry, there will probably be at least 12 more before the day is over!
4/14/2012 12:16pm
Asher wrote:
i call bullshit, why would they go to a public place and risk getting seen when they could ride somewhere private
that was the first thing I thought too... but, think it thru a bit more. If he goes to the Suz test track, no deniability for them. If he goes to a suz riders home track, no resources to tailor a bike to a different rider.

better for all to keep it quiet, go some place neutral, stay low key and do whatever.
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4/14/2012 12:21pm
If Stewart moved to Suzuki I hope he fucking kills the field.
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4/14/2012 12:26pm
Who knows, maybe he had some sort of handshake deal with Suzuki where they said 'when your contract with Yamaha is up after Supercross (assuming he had a contract directly with Yamaha as a manufacturer regardless of what actual team he was on) if you still want to consider signing with us at that point we'd be more than willing to negotiate with you'

And since any kind of contract with Yamaha wouldn't be up til May after SX is over, even though he could've gotten out of the JGR contract now he still would have to be secretive about riding a different brand bike until SX ends and he's out of the Yamaha contract. If all this is true and he's riding on an outdoor track I would say it's a good possibility we could see him under the Factory Suzuki tent for the Nationals. After winning 2 years in a row with Reed and Dungey in '09 and '10 and losing so narrowly to RV last year (which many say was due to bike issues) I'm sure Suzuki is wanting to have a title contender outdoors, especially after their sub-par showing in SX. And by now they've had enough time to get their personnel restructuring in order...
4/14/2012 12:27pm
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i call bullshit, why would they go to a public place and risk getting seen when they could ride somewhere private
+1. like he doesnt have his own trackS. surrounded by acres of orange tree fields.
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4/14/2012 12:29pm
Is the Suzuki still the best bike out there? I know when RC, CR, and RD was with Suzuki it was considered the best bike. But now that Decoster and Gosselar are gone as well as most everyone else and Suzuki going through their financial problems, is it still the best Factory bike?
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4/14/2012 12:30pm
I hate to see James leave JGR because I'm sure they are one of the best teams in the sport and they have more resources them most teams.However ,,,,I will be happy to see him get of that Yamaha and get on another bike. I still have faith in James and I still think he can win titles.
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4/14/2012 12:31pm
MXerDW wrote:
I found this tweet more interesting.

@EngineIceDave There is no JS7 display bike at JGR
R-acer wrote:
Oh man..... music to my ears!! I don't ever want to see him back on a Yamaha.
I was out all day & first thing I did was click on this thread when I got in front of the puter. But I could have sworn I also saw a thread about that that isn't there anymore...
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4/14/2012 12:34pm Edited Date/Time 4/14/2012 12:35pm
mx_563 wrote:
Now Suzuki can lowball Stewie a little bit. Maybe they weren't so dumb fielding one rider after all. This is juicy stuff! It's great to be...
Now Suzuki can lowball Stewie a little bit. Maybe they weren't so dumb fielding one rider after all. This is juicy stuff! It's great to be an MX fan and vital member these days, ha ha!
426Hemi wrote:
Juicy stuff? It is llke HS bullshit.

Minor leagues.
Ha ha! I agree this is all HS bullshit. Just about everything on VItal is on the level of HS bullshit.

But when is the last time a top rider switched brands mid season? How often does shit like that go down? And when was the last time the public knew about it as it was happening?
When Marty Tripes switched mid season it took at least a month before anybody outside of So Cal or the industry knew about it.

Minor league? I don't know, perhaps that's a question of semantics. I admit using the word "juicy" was pretty gay. But it's certainly more news-worhty than most press releases currently floating around. It got you to click on this thread and read a bunch of posts by people you don't know. So it must be a pretty interesting topic for you. Smile
4/14/2012 12:36pm
the best tweet yet.
Chad Reed ‏ @CRtwotwo
“@therealreddog: J-law was at Dade city motocross today and I missed him! Damn it where u at j-law?”if u find tell him I need a rider...
4/14/2012 12:38pm
MXerDW wrote:
I found this tweet more interesting.

@EngineIceDave There is no JS7 display bike at JGR
R-acer wrote:
Oh man..... music to my ears!! I don't ever want to see him back on a Yamaha.
ns503 wrote:
I was out all day & first thing I did was click on this thread when I got in front of the puter. But I could...
I was out all day & first thing I did was click on this thread when I got in front of the puter. But I could have sworn I also saw a thread about that that isn't there anymore...
You did but I am sure they clicked it because this one was already going strong, some people just start a thread thinking they are breaking a story when they a a day late and dollar short.
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Team Ideal wrote:
yea, lol and this
Kay Thieke ‏ @JackLHyde
@davidpingree the @VitalMX forum bomb is about to explode soon. Can hear it ticking from here
Haha, sorry about that. Couldn't hold it back.
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This is getting crazy. If he was really released from JGR from his contract then you would think we would hear about it from a public...
This is getting crazy. If he was really released from JGR from his contract then you would think we would hear about it from a public statement. The fact that Engine Ice Dave tweeted there is no JS7 bike under the tent makes me wonder if they really did part ways. All I can say is WOW!
Sully22 wrote:
You mean have an actual moto journalist from an actual moto outlet ask him an actual question....HA No, we get hard hitting stuff like this.... [i]For...
You mean have an actual moto journalist from an actual moto outlet ask him an actual question....HA

No, we get hard hitting stuff like this....

For the record, Stewart has never uttered one bad thing about his team or bike. But he doesn’t have to for people to get talking. For example, while it seems widely known and understood that James doesn’t get along with the current generation Yamaha, he has never once actually said that in an interview. And even now, while rumors swirl that he could be out at JGR, either by his decision, theirs, or both, you’ve never heard a word from Stewart, not once, about not liking the team or wanting out. Somehow, with Stewart, these things either leak out or simply get made up.

....rather than just pick up the phone and ask him, or when he's at the races, ask him, or when he's doing a press conference, ask him.
Or could it be JS7 wont talk to the media? Since he has been so open with the media in the past? Ha!
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4/14/2012 1:20pm
level wrote:
This is getting crazy. If he was really released from JGR from his contract then you would think we would hear about it from a public...
This is getting crazy. If he was really released from JGR from his contract then you would think we would hear about it from a public statement. The fact that Engine Ice Dave tweeted there is no JS7 bike under the tent makes me wonder if they really did part ways. All I can say is WOW!
Sully22 wrote:
You mean have an actual moto journalist from an actual moto outlet ask him an actual question....HA No, we get hard hitting stuff like this.... [i]For...
You mean have an actual moto journalist from an actual moto outlet ask him an actual question....HA

No, we get hard hitting stuff like this....

For the record, Stewart has never uttered one bad thing about his team or bike. But he doesn’t have to for people to get talking. For example, while it seems widely known and understood that James doesn’t get along with the current generation Yamaha, he has never once actually said that in an interview. And even now, while rumors swirl that he could be out at JGR, either by his decision, theirs, or both, you’ve never heard a word from Stewart, not once, about not liking the team or wanting out. Somehow, with Stewart, these things either leak out or simply get made up.

....rather than just pick up the phone and ask him, or when he's at the races, ask him, or when he's doing a press conference, ask him.
Jdirrrty wrote:
Or could it be JS7 wont talk to the media? Since he has been so open with the media in the past? Ha!
Then the media needs to report THAT...Quit kissing this guys ass, acting like he walks on water, and report his actions as seen by the reporter. Report that he is acting like a dammed prim donna, make him come out of his bunker and answers question and if he doesn't want to do that or play ball, or whatever he's doing, then report that. But come on….DO SOMETHING! This is the problem with our media in this industry, JS7 controls what is reported about him in the major outlets and he knows this. All he has to do is say no or no comment, and at that point the topic is over. Then we get people in the media saying GEE, I wonder why people make stuff up or speculate, he's never said anything bad about his team or bike....NO Shit, he doesn't say anything, ever...and no one asks. Unless he's winning of course, then we get a hard hitting 5 minutes with JS7
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4/14/2012 1:30pm
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This is getting crazy. If he was really released from JGR from his contract then you would think we would hear about it from a public...
This is getting crazy. If he was really released from JGR from his contract then you would think we would hear about it from a public statement. The fact that Engine Ice Dave tweeted there is no JS7 bike under the tent makes me wonder if they really did part ways. All I can say is WOW!
Sully22 wrote:
You mean have an actual moto journalist from an actual moto outlet ask him an actual question....HA No, we get hard hitting stuff like this.... [i]For...
You mean have an actual moto journalist from an actual moto outlet ask him an actual question....HA

No, we get hard hitting stuff like this....

For the record, Stewart has never uttered one bad thing about his team or bike. But he doesn’t have to for people to get talking. For example, while it seems widely known and understood that James doesn’t get along with the current generation Yamaha, he has never once actually said that in an interview. And even now, while rumors swirl that he could be out at JGR, either by his decision, theirs, or both, you’ve never heard a word from Stewart, not once, about not liking the team or wanting out. Somehow, with Stewart, these things either leak out or simply get made up.

....rather than just pick up the phone and ask him, or when he's at the races, ask him, or when he's doing a press conference, ask him.
So, they have asked him about the bike and set up, and as far as I know he's never thrown it or the team under the bus. Same last year with a different team.

If he did throw the bike or the team under the bus the way you seem to want him to publicly, then the place would erupt with him "making excuses." And consistent with the "damned if you do and damned if you don't," if he choses to not disclose there's something wrong with him and the system rather than it being a case of the guy dealing with it professionally and respectfully.

It is what it is. There doesn't seem to be any dispute he's disappointed with how it's gone. As far as contracts, it's never that great to talk about the meaning and terms of contracts that one hasn't read. And parties are always free to negotiate exits strategies if they haven't already got one set out in the contract. It's just business.
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4/14/2012 1:35pm
What about rockstar and redbull?
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4/14/2012 1:41pm Edited Date/Time 4/14/2012 1:46pm
level wrote:
This is getting crazy. If he was really released from JGR from his contract then you would think we would hear about it from a public...
This is getting crazy. If he was really released from JGR from his contract then you would think we would hear about it from a public statement. The fact that Engine Ice Dave tweeted there is no JS7 bike under the tent makes me wonder if they really did part ways. All I can say is WOW!
Sully22 wrote:
You mean have an actual moto journalist from an actual moto outlet ask him an actual question....HA No, we get hard hitting stuff like this.... [i]For...
You mean have an actual moto journalist from an actual moto outlet ask him an actual question....HA

No, we get hard hitting stuff like this....

For the record, Stewart has never uttered one bad thing about his team or bike. But he doesn’t have to for people to get talking. For example, while it seems widely known and understood that James doesn’t get along with the current generation Yamaha, he has never once actually said that in an interview. And even now, while rumors swirl that he could be out at JGR, either by his decision, theirs, or both, you’ve never heard a word from Stewart, not once, about not liking the team or wanting out. Somehow, with Stewart, these things either leak out or simply get made up.

....rather than just pick up the phone and ask him, or when he's at the races, ask him, or when he's doing a press conference, ask him.
So, they have asked him about the bike and set up, and as far as I know he's never thrown it or the team under the...
So, they have asked him about the bike and set up, and as far as I know he's never thrown it or the team under the bus. Same last year with a different team.

If he did throw the bike or the team under the bus the way you seem to want him to publicly, then the place would erupt with him "making excuses." And consistent with the "damned if you do and damned if you don't," if he choses to not disclose there's something wrong with him and the system rather than it being a case of the guy dealing with it professionally and respectfully.

It is what it is. There doesn't seem to be any dispute he's disappointed with how it's gone. As far as contracts, it's never that great to talk about the meaning and terms of contracts that one hasn't read. And parties are always free to negotiate exits strategies if they haven't already got one set out in the contract. It's just business.
I don't want him to throw the bike or team under the bus. I do want to have an idea about what is going on....why the guy that's been so dominant over the years is having so many problems (at least it's perceived there are issues / problems as pointed out by others). I have never been a JS7 hater, I'm not his biggest fan either. But you mean they can't do a sit down interview, an "exclusive" if you will and say or ask....

Okay James, you're telling us it's not the bike or the team, then what is going on? Is it training, is it preparation, is it testing, has the competition got better?

Do you know how many people would tune in or read, just to hear what’s going on? You don't have to be an ass, or go after the jugular, but the questions CAN be asked. In journalism, I thought if you’re conducting an interview and trying to gain information from the subject and they are dodging or diving, you then ask some probing questions and try to get them to open up. If they continue to clam up, deny, or no comment, then at least people can see you made an attempt. I don't know what you are talking about regarding contracts....
4/14/2012 1:48pm
BR_HERO wrote:
What about rockstar and redbull?
isnt it just yoshimura suzuki now?

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