Broc Glover is a SANDBAGGER.......!!!!

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Edited Date/Time 4/12/2012 3:21am
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Every year Broc plays the Southern California Golf Association (SCGA) Amateur net Championships. First you have to play a qualifier. If you qualify then its off to the Championship rounds. The Championships are at Industry Hills this year.


Broc shot 5 under par in his qualifier at Carlton Oaks a month ago........ Carlton Oaks is brutal, seriously Broc 5 under....? YOU SANDBAGGER................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL.Tongue

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Pos.......Player.................Club Name ............Hole....Total.......Total
1. Broc Glover...........Stadium Golf Club........F.........-5..............67
2. Vu Buu...................Sea N Air Golf Club......F.........-2..............70
3. Gregg Williams....Golfextra.........................F.........-2..............70

First round was yesterday. Broc was at it again....Tongue LOL

78th SCGA Amateur Net Championship


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Pos. Player.................Club Name......................Today..........Hole......Total......R1 .........R2 .......Total
1 Broc Glover...........Stadium Golf Club.............9:36 am.....10............-7.......65
2 Ray Diaz................Alta Vista Country Club.....9:36 am.....10............-6.......66
3 Darryl Gordon.......River Ridge Men's Club....9:36 am....10............-6.......66


Broc opens up with a 7 under par 65, Which he had to shot a natural 79 to do. He got 14 pops on the first day and took advantage of everyone of them. He shot an even par 36 on the back nine with 3 birdies......!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you take away his handicap, he shot 29 on the back nine.....LOL. You freaking SANDBAGGER......Wink

I guarantee that this is right up there with any of his moto championships. Broc won this back in I think 2002 and tries to qualify every year. Last year He tried to qualify at Moreno Valley ranch. My buddy Jon took the final spot and beat Broc by a stroke ( I also qualified.. hehe ).

I spoke with Broc as we looked at the results wall last year and it was just like back in the day, looking at the results wall at the moto's. Only difference was, 34 YEARS ago he was a moto god to me. I told him that I still have the 1977 Banzai hill pic he signed to me at Hangtown, Small world it is. Now nearly 35 years later we are both like little kids ( Me very stoked and Broc not so much.... LOL ) looking at the results from the day.

This things means so much to him, that he still showed up at Industry Hills, hoping to be a alternate. I saw him on my way to my starting tee time and had a bit of a laugh....

So Finally he's made it back to the Championship rounds ( coughSANDBAGGERcough )... Don't choke it away...lol

Playing the Babe course today, its tighter then a bugs ass............... Good luck Golden boy.

Damm Sandbaggers............. j/k of course (kinda....lol) YEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW
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Anybody who breaks 80 at Industry Hills is no 14 Handicap. That is one tough golf course.

More like a 5 or better.
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Greg Williams probably has a bounty out on him right now.
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500guy wrote:
Anybody who breaks 80 at Industry Hills is no 14 Handicap. That is one tough golf course.

More like a 5 or better.
Carlton Oaks is as hard or harder. Breaking 80 at a chip and putt isn't easy...lol. He's playing as a 12.1 and got 14 on the IKE. He's getting 13 on the Babe today.

Even par back nine with 3 birdies is freaking great, especially in a Major. Biggest amateur golf tourney in So Cal. I folded like a cheap lawn chair at my qualifier this year........ Yup he's a sandbagger....lol.
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I only compete in gross score tournaments ... way too many sandbaggers in Net events. Net events are a cheater's playground.

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4/10/2012 12:48pm
I wonder if all the players who suck take the sign up sheet and try to have all the Better players DQed before the match.
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4/10/2012 12:58pm Edited Date/Time 4/10/2012 1:02pm
RbR wrote:
I only compete in gross score tournaments ... way too many sandbaggers in Net events. Net events are a cheater's playground.
That only works if you're a scratch golfer. The SCGA actually has a great system in place to curb sandbagging. Otherwise you'd see the same guys winning the Majors over and over. Which isn't the case out here.

Also the reality of a mid handicap golfer is to have some big swings in scores from the days where it all works and the days it don't. when you have 20 stroke swings from great days to bad days it can make you wonder, if you're playing against a guy that had a great day on tournament day. My experience has been sandbaggers are the exception not the rule.

I've been on both sides of the fence and dropped some numbers and won, also have been left scratching my head.

Broc's a good example of that. If he played more, He would be a single digit handicap. but he can still drop a number on ya.
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I wonder if all the players who suck take the sign up sheet and try to have all the Better players DQed before the match.
We have a mini tour here that is handicapped and I hear most of the real 0-3 handicaps won't play because the winners all shot sub par with 5 - 7 handicaps.

And yes Golf has tons of tight ass wimps who complain about everything.

A true handicap is only 80% of your normal scoring average so a guy who shoots 82 on a par 72 would only get 8 strokes not 10 , if you under your handicap more than once in back to back tournaments you do not have the correct handicap.

Breaking 80 on tough courses is no 12 like I said more like a 4 or 5.
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4/10/2012 1:09pm Edited Date/Time 4/10/2012 6:08pm
RbR wrote:
I only compete in gross score tournaments ... way too many sandbaggers in Net events. Net events are a cheater's playground.
Clutchy wrote:
That only works if you're a scratch golfer. The SCGA actually has a great system in place to curb sandbagging. Otherwise you'd see the same guys...
That only works if you're a scratch golfer. The SCGA actually has a great system in place to curb sandbagging. Otherwise you'd see the same guys winning the Majors over and over. Which isn't the case out here.

Also the reality of a mid handicap golfer is to have some big swings in scores from the days where it all works and the days it don't. when you have 20 stroke swings from great days to bad days it can make you wonder, if you're playing against a guy that had a great day on tournament day. My experience has been sandbaggers are the exception not the rule.

I've been on both sides of the fence and dropped some numbers and won, also have been left scratching my head.

Broc's a good example of that. If he played more, He would be a single digit handicap. but he can still drop a number on ya.
I understand where you are coming from ... and, at the club level, if you didn't have NET events, then you would have virtually no entries. I suspect everyone of cheating in net events ... unless I win ... then its all legit, of course. Whistling
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Obviously another Greg Williams.
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500guy wrote:
We have a mini tour here that is handicapped and I hear most of the real 0-3 handicaps won't play because the winners all shot sub...
We have a mini tour here that is handicapped and I hear most of the real 0-3 handicaps won't play because the winners all shot sub par with 5 - 7 handicaps.

And yes Golf has tons of tight ass wimps who complain about everything.

A true handicap is only 80% of your normal scoring average so a guy who shoots 82 on a par 72 would only get 8 strokes not 10 , if you under your handicap more than once in back to back tournaments you do not have the correct handicap.

Breaking 80 on tough courses is no 12 like I said more like a 4 or 5.
Jay...... It all depends on the slope and rating of said course. And your index is based on the average of your 10 BEST rds of the last 20 rds x 96%. So yes its hard to shot under your given index back to back, but if you do your index will adjust immediately and those rounds will factor in. I've dropped 8 stokes in a year..... Until i had a stroke.....Huh Huh Dry
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RbR wrote:
I understand where you are coming from ... and, at the club level, if you didn't have NET events, then you would have virtually no entries...
I understand where you are coming from ... and, at the club level, if you didn't have NET events, then you would have virtually no entries. I suspect everyone of cheating in net events ... unless I win ... then its all legit, of course. Whistling
LOL...... you're an idiot......Wink Silly
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500guy wrote:
We have a mini tour here that is handicapped and I hear most of the real 0-3 handicaps won't play because the winners all shot sub...
We have a mini tour here that is handicapped and I hear most of the real 0-3 handicaps won't play because the winners all shot sub par with 5 - 7 handicaps.

And yes Golf has tons of tight ass wimps who complain about everything.

A true handicap is only 80% of your normal scoring average so a guy who shoots 82 on a par 72 would only get 8 strokes not 10 , if you under your handicap more than once in back to back tournaments you do not have the correct handicap.

Breaking 80 on tough courses is no 12 like I said more like a 4 or 5.
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Jay...... It all depends on the slope and rating of said course. And your index is based on the average of your 10 BEST rds of...
Jay...... It all depends on the slope and rating of said course. And your index is based on the average of your 10 BEST rds of the last 20 rds x 96%. So yes its hard to shot under your given index back to back, but if you do your index will adjust immediately and those rounds will factor in. I've dropped 8 stokes in a year..... Until i had a stroke.....Huh Huh Dry
No doubt, I was a 14 last summer got it down to a 7 then I hurt my wrist and it shot back up to 12 , currently headed back down towards 10 or better

I've played Industry Hills maybe 3 or 4 times on both courses it's no cake walk.
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:P :laugh: :whistle: :P ;) Every year Broc plays the Southern California Golf Association (SCGA) Amateur net Championships. First you have to play a qualifier. If...
Tongue Laughing Whistling Tongue Wink

Every year Broc plays the Southern California Golf Association (SCGA) Amateur net Championships. First you have to play a qualifier. If you qualify then its off to the Championship rounds. The Championships are at Industry Hills this year.


Broc shot 5 under par in his qualifier at Carlton Oaks a month ago........ Carlton Oaks is brutal, seriously Broc 5 under....? YOU SANDBAGGER................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL.Tongue

Full Leaderboard
Pos.......Player.................Club Name ............Hole....Total.......Total
1. Broc Glover...........Stadium Golf Club........F.........-5..............67
2. Vu Buu...................Sea N Air Golf Club......F.........-2..............70
3. Gregg Williams....Golfextra.........................F.........-2..............70

First round was yesterday. Broc was at it again....Tongue LOL

78th SCGA Amateur Net Championship


Full Leaderboard
Pos. Player.................Club Name......................Today..........Hole......Total......R1 .........R2 .......Total
1 Broc Glover...........Stadium Golf Club.............9:36 am.....10............-7.......65
2 Ray Diaz................Alta Vista Country Club.....9:36 am.....10............-6.......66
3 Darryl Gordon.......River Ridge Men's Club....9:36 am....10............-6.......66


Broc opens up with a 7 under par 65, Which he had to shot a natural 79 to do. He got 14 pops on the first day and took advantage of everyone of them. He shot an even par 36 on the back nine with 3 birdies......!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you take away his handicap, he shot 29 on the back nine.....LOL. You freaking SANDBAGGER......Wink

I guarantee that this is right up there with any of his moto championships. Broc won this back in I think 2002 and tries to qualify every year. Last year He tried to qualify at Moreno Valley ranch. My buddy Jon took the final spot and beat Broc by a stroke ( I also qualified.. hehe ).

I spoke with Broc as we looked at the results wall last year and it was just like back in the day, looking at the results wall at the moto's. Only difference was, 34 YEARS ago he was a moto god to me. I told him that I still have the 1977 Banzai hill pic he signed to me at Hangtown, Small world it is. Now nearly 35 years later we are both like little kids ( Me very stoked and Broc not so much.... LOL ) looking at the results from the day.

This things means so much to him, that he still showed up at Industry Hills, hoping to be a alternate. I saw him on my way to my starting tee time and had a bit of a laugh....

So Finally he's made it back to the Championship rounds ( coughSANDBAGGERcough )... Don't choke it away...lol

Playing the Babe course today, its tighter then a bugs ass............... Good luck Golden boy.

Damm Sandbaggers............. j/k of course (kinda....lol) YEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW
I think that'd make him a cherry picker, not a sandbagger. If he were sandbagging, he'd purposely NOT win so as not to be forced to move up (or whatever the golf equivalent is).
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No doubt, I was a 14 last summer got it down to a 7 then I hurt my wrist and it shot back up to 12...
No doubt, I was a 14 last summer got it down to a 7 then I hurt my wrist and it shot back up to 12 , currently headed back down towards 10 or better

I've played Industry Hills maybe 3 or 4 times on both courses it's no cake walk.
You are/were only a few strokes off Tiger, and he makes 100mil a year! Laughing

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The only golf i watch is the masters every year, if the big tourneys are that exciting, i may have to tune in more, that was cool stuff last week.
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I think that'd make him a cherry picker, not a sandbagger. If he were sandbagging, he'd purposely NOT win so as not to be forced to...
I think that'd make him a cherry picker, not a sandbagger. If he were sandbagging, he'd purposely NOT win so as not to be forced to move up (or whatever the golf equivalent is).
If you sandbag in golf, you're doing it in your non - tournament rounds. Posting higher score's then what you could post if you really tried. So you don't get moved up before big tournaments. Then you go out and drop a number on them....

Obviously I was kidding Broc... He's not a sandbagger. Although he's been playing like one as of late. He's failed to qualify for this since he won it like 10 years ago........
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No doubt, I was a 14 last summer got it down to a 7 then I hurt my wrist and it shot back up to 12...
No doubt, I was a 14 last summer got it down to a 7 then I hurt my wrist and it shot back up to 12 , currently headed back down towards 10 or better

I've played Industry Hills maybe 3 or 4 times on both courses it's no cake walk.
The SCGA adjusts your index every 15 days..... and tracks all tournament scores.

#4 on IKE pretty much wrecked my tourney last year, or should I say my swing on number 4. I love Industry Hills.
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This is no way shape or form motocross related..! Oh my god, why is golf being posted on a Motocross forum.? I Never was a fan of Broc never will be.. I could be wrong but I don't think he has many motocross fans..
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Broc has plenty of Motocross fans... You on the other hand.........Whistling
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4/10/2012 3:34pm Edited Date/Time 4/10/2012 3:42pm
Clutchy wrote:
Broc has plenty of Motocross fans... You on the other hand.........Whistling
About the same as you lol Laughing Well I have at least 5. My wife and kids.. lol
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Broc has plenty of Motocross fans... You on the other hand.........Whistling
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About the same as you lol Laughing Well I have at least 5. My wife and kids.. lol
Are you sure about your wife and kids?

I have seen them cheering for other guys while you race.
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Clutchy wrote:
Broc has plenty of Motocross fans... You on the other hand.........Whistling
Played with Broc at various race events the last 3-4 years. My dads course at RTJ in Manassas, VA (along with Kyle Regal) after Budds Creek, some courses in Pennsylvania, more recently at Stonebrae TPC after the Oakland SX. He's a 14 albeit a strong one and i know hes been taking some instruction's/lessons recently that he says has really helped. All of us that play know it doesn't take much with proper instruction to cure a thing or two to really make a difference. All the best to him to capitalize on that handicap as I know hows hes shot/scored when we played, right around or under a 14 for sure...a strong one!! lmaof
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Clutchy wrote:
Broc has plenty of Motocross fans... You on the other hand.........Whistling
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Played with Broc at various race events the last 3-4 years. My dads course at RTJ in Manassas, VA (along with Kyle Regal) after Budds Creek...
Played with Broc at various race events the last 3-4 years. My dads course at RTJ in Manassas, VA (along with Kyle Regal) after Budds Creek, some courses in Pennsylvania, more recently at Stonebrae TPC after the Oakland SX. He's a 14 albeit a strong one and i know hes been taking some instruction's/lessons recently that he says has really helped. All of us that play know it doesn't take much with proper instruction to cure a thing or two to really make a difference. All the best to him to capitalize on that handicap as I know hows hes shot/scored when we played, right around or under a 14 for sure...a strong one!! lmaof
So true CH, so true........ I dig how into it he is. Thought I'd give him a little shit, maybe it'd get back to him.

He got beat up a little today on the Babe. Shot 88, dropped 4 shots and finished 5th overall in the tourney. Top 5 place, so good job..... Ya sandbagger. He had a shot to win with 4 holes to go and crashed....lol.
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We have a mini tour here that is handicapped and I hear most of the real 0-3 handicaps won't play because the winners all shot sub...
We have a mini tour here that is handicapped and I hear most of the real 0-3 handicaps won't play because the winners all shot sub par with 5 - 7 handicaps.

And yes Golf has tons of tight ass wimps who complain about everything.

A true handicap is only 80% of your normal scoring average so a guy who shoots 82 on a par 72 would only get 8 strokes not 10 , if you under your handicap more than once in back to back tournaments you do not have the correct handicap.

Breaking 80 on tough courses is no 12 like I said more like a 4 or 5.
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Jay...... It all depends on the slope and rating of said course. And your index is based on the average of your 10 BEST rds of...
Jay...... It all depends on the slope and rating of said course. And your index is based on the average of your 10 BEST rds of the last 20 rds x 96%. So yes its hard to shot under your given index back to back, but if you do your index will adjust immediately and those rounds will factor in. I've dropped 8 stokes in a year..... Until i had a stroke.....Huh Huh Dry
500guy wrote:
No doubt, I was a 14 last summer got it down to a 7 then I hurt my wrist and it shot back up to 12...
No doubt, I was a 14 last summer got it down to a 7 then I hurt my wrist and it shot back up to 12 , currently headed back down towards 10 or better

I've played Industry Hills maybe 3 or 4 times on both courses it's no cake walk.
The only thing i know about Industry Hills is growing up It had some of the best Illegal Motocross and BMX tracks in the area in the 70's ride my Elsinore to Workman H.S out the back gate into the hills after school!
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I think Broc may need a manual adjustment, maybe down to a 10, 14? He was either feeling it, or people were "letting Broc bye"
4/11/2012 3:00am
Am I the only one who thinks the whole handicap system is the biggest joke in sports next to Ralph Sheheen?

Seriously, what other sport does that. Could you imagine going to the basketball court and saying, yeah, you got to spot my team 8 points because that's our "handicap". Im sorry but a handicap is just a cute word for being shittier than the next guy. Lets call it what it is.

I play golf. I enjoy it. Im horrible. I have no handicap. Im fucking horrible. You beat me, you beat me.

No other sport I can think of has this sort of stupid system to level the playing field for those that suck and those that are good.

What a dumb sport. So full of so many ridiculous pointless rules. That's basically what golf is, a game full of idiosyncrasies and formalities that have absolutely NOTHING to do with the actual game. Proof? It's the most simple of all games, its a glorified version of putt putt golf yet it has a rule book thicker and more confusing than F1's. DUMB. SPORT.
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The motto down here is "a good scorer will beat a good player every time"
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Am I the only one who thinks the whole handicap system is the biggest joke in sports next to Ralph Sheheen? Seriously, what other sport does...
Am I the only one who thinks the whole handicap system is the biggest joke in sports next to Ralph Sheheen?

Seriously, what other sport does that. Could you imagine going to the basketball court and saying, yeah, you got to spot my team 8 points because that's our "handicap". Im sorry but a handicap is just a cute word for being shittier than the next guy. Lets call it what it is.

I play golf. I enjoy it. Im horrible. I have no handicap. Im fucking horrible. You beat me, you beat me.

No other sport I can think of has this sort of stupid system to level the playing field for those that suck and those that are good.

What a dumb sport. So full of so many ridiculous pointless rules. That's basically what golf is, a game full of idiosyncrasies and formalities that have absolutely NOTHING to do with the actual game. Proof? It's the most simple of all games, its a glorified version of putt putt golf yet it has a rule book thicker and more confusing than F1's. DUMB. SPORT.
Obviously You are not very bright.

Ever heard of Beginner, Novice , Amateur and Pro ? is that not Handicapping ? and just like MX when you hit the Pro's the sand bagging is all gone.
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Did you guys watch the Masters? The last shot around that tree by Bubba Watson was nuts!
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Am I the only one who thinks the whole handicap system is the biggest joke in sports next to Ralph Sheheen? Seriously, what other sport does...
Am I the only one who thinks the whole handicap system is the biggest joke in sports next to Ralph Sheheen?

Seriously, what other sport does that. Could you imagine going to the basketball court and saying, yeah, you got to spot my team 8 points because that's our "handicap". Im sorry but a handicap is just a cute word for being shittier than the next guy. Lets call it what it is.

I play golf. I enjoy it. Im horrible. I have no handicap. Im fucking horrible. You beat me, you beat me.

No other sport I can think of has this sort of stupid system to level the playing field for those that suck and those that are good.

What a dumb sport. So full of so many ridiculous pointless rules. That's basically what golf is, a game full of idiosyncrasies and formalities that have absolutely NOTHING to do with the actual game. Proof? It's the most simple of all games, its a glorified version of putt putt golf yet it has a rule book thicker and more confusing than F1's. DUMB. SPORT.
You're to stupid to play golf, that's the problem..

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