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jamma10 4/9/2012 7:21am
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TDeath21 wrote:
It could happen. Who knows? But in the instance that Villopoto runs him down and checks out on him, what's the excuse going to be?
mccread wrote:
Herlings has already beaten Villopoto at the Des Nations... did it last year on a hard pack track. RV will be fast at Lommel and should...
Herlings has already beaten Villopoto at the Des Nations... did it last year on a hard pack track.

RV will be fast at Lommel and should be a contender. Hard to know who will win. Can Herlings beat him again? of course. RV could beat him too... it's motocross.
moto282 wrote:
You and I have different recollections of who won MX3 last year. Results show that RV won. Motocross is two motos McGPdy. But continue to spin...
You and I have different recollections of who won MX3 last year. Results show that RV won. Motocross is two motos McGPdy. But continue to spin the results to fit your agenda as usual. I'd bet when/if Herlings beats any of the American riders the MXDNs won't be a "one-off exhibition" race anymore. All of a sudden it will matter and prove things. Carry on...
Is Mccread spinning it when he says Herlings beat Villopoto in one moto, or are you spinning it by saying he had to beat him in both races for it to count?
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Huckster 4/9/2012 7:41am
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mccread wrote:
Herlings has already beaten Villopoto at the Des Nations... did it last year on a hard pack track. RV will be fast at Lommel and should...
Herlings has already beaten Villopoto at the Des Nations... did it last year on a hard pack track.

RV will be fast at Lommel and should be a contender. Hard to know who will win. Can Herlings beat him again? of course. RV could beat him too... it's motocross.
moto282 wrote:
You and I have different recollections of who won MX3 last year. Results show that RV won. Motocross is two motos McGPdy. But continue to spin...
You and I have different recollections of who won MX3 last year. Results show that RV won. Motocross is two motos McGPdy. But continue to spin the results to fit your agenda as usual. I'd bet when/if Herlings beats any of the American riders the MXDNs won't be a "one-off exhibition" race anymore. All of a sudden it will matter and prove things. Carry on...
jamma10 wrote:
Is Mccread spinning it when he says Herlings beat Villopoto in one moto, or are you spinning it by saying he had to beat him in...
Is Mccread spinning it when he says Herlings beat Villopoto in one moto, or are you spinning it by saying he had to beat him in both races for it to count?
saying someone beat another rider and it was in 1 moto but not for the overall is like saying your team won the game because the had the lead after the first half, period, quater, etc.....It's almost as bad as using qualifying as a barometer....I would expect someone with as much MX knowledge to understand that...but then again, you have to take it for where it came from...lol
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jamma10 4/9/2012 7:51am
4/9/2012 7:51am Edited Date/Time 4/9/2012 8:04am
moto282 wrote:
You and I have different recollections of who won MX3 last year. Results show that RV won. Motocross is two motos McGPdy. But continue to spin...
You and I have different recollections of who won MX3 last year. Results show that RV won. Motocross is two motos McGPdy. But continue to spin the results to fit your agenda as usual. I'd bet when/if Herlings beats any of the American riders the MXDNs won't be a "one-off exhibition" race anymore. All of a sudden it will matter and prove things. Carry on...
jamma10 wrote:
Is Mccread spinning it when he says Herlings beat Villopoto in one moto, or are you spinning it by saying he had to beat him in...
Is Mccread spinning it when he says Herlings beat Villopoto in one moto, or are you spinning it by saying he had to beat him in both races for it to count?
Huckster wrote:
saying someone beat another rider and it was in 1 moto but not for the overall is like saying your team won the game because the...
saying someone beat another rider and it was in 1 moto but not for the overall is like saying your team won the game because the had the lead after the first half, period, quater, etc.....It's almost as bad as using qualifying as a barometer....I would expect someone with as much MX knowledge to understand that...but then again, you have to take it for where it came from...lol
So if a rider wins a race, technically he hasn't won it?

Villopoto won the overall, but Herlings beat Villopoto in one race. Its simply a question over the interpretation of Mccreads wording.
Douchebag 4/9/2012 7:59am
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I think the chances are pretty big that Herlings will go 1-1 @ Lommel ... You would be a fool to think otherwise.

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Huckster 4/9/2012 8:05am
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jamma10 wrote:
So if a rider wins a race, technically he hasn't won it? Villopoto won the overall, but Herlings beat Villopoto in one race. Its simply a...
So if a rider wins a race, technically he hasn't won it?

Villopoto won the overall, but Herlings beat Villopoto in one race. Its simply a question over the interpretation of Mccreads wording.
Who won the MX1 class overall at the '11 MxoN?

Herlings beat RV in moto 1, which is 1/2 of the race......RV beat him by almost a min in moto 2 and won the O/A. Herlings got 3rd O/A in that class......to say "...herlings already beaten Villopoto in the Des Nations...." is a stretch and misleading but I am sure you understand where it was coming from so......
oldschoolmxr203 4/9/2012 8:12am
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The imressive part , is that not only Herlings go 1-1 , his laptime was a 1:54,, and Cairoli was a 1:57 , so he will be very hard to beat @ Lommel,, IMO, thats still 5 mons and alot of races away yet, they all have to not get injured etc., Sideways Whistling
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The imressive part , is that not only Herlings go 1-1 , his laptime was a 1:54,, and Cairoli was a 1:57 , so he will...
The imressive part , is that not only Herlings go 1-1 , his laptime was a 1:54,, and Cairoli was a 1:57 , so he will be very hard to beat @ Lommel,, IMO, thats still 5 mons and alot of races away yet, they all have to not get injured etc., Sideways Whistling
Wrong conclusion, the track was 'fresh', groomed and new for the MX2. When the MX1 raced, the track was really rough and it started to rain (much more then in MX2)
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cpj36 4/9/2012 9:51am
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As with Roczen last year, we'll have to wait and see what happens when he isn't in a class won by 15-16 years olds.
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Hawwy 4/9/2012 9:54am
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oldschoolmxr203 wrote:
The imressive part , is that not only Herlings go 1-1 , his laptime was a 1:54,, and Cairoli was a 1:57 , so he will...
The imressive part , is that not only Herlings go 1-1 , his laptime was a 1:54,, and Cairoli was a 1:57 , so he will be very hard to beat @ Lommel,, IMO, thats still 5 mons and alot of races away yet, they all have to not get injured etc., Sideways Whistling
Comparing lap times from different moto's is freaking dumb - track changes alot on a sand track!
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jamma10 4/9/2012 9:56am
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cpj36 wrote:
As with Roczen last year, we'll have to wait and see what happens when he isn't in a class won by 15-16 years olds.
Alternatively, you could search your desolate soul and give a talented 17 year old Dutch kid just a slither of credit?
St Ann More 4/9/2012 9:59am
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It won't matter because Team USA will find an excuse to not race the MXdN in 2012... similar to Lierop a few years ago!
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jamma10 4/9/2012 10:04am
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St Ann More wrote:
It won't matter because Team USA will find an excuse to not race the MXdN in 2012... similar to Lierop a few years ago!
Nah they'll race, and be bloody fast too I bet!

I think making bold statements about what Herlings or even Cairoli might do at this stage are silly until we've all seen what Villopoto and Dungey/Stewart can do in the deep stuff.
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carlosmacho 4/9/2012 10:15am
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one thing for sure. mc creed is good at making an ass out of himself :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh...
one thing for sure. mc creed is good at making an ass out of himself Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
TripleDigit wrote:
Really.....and nobody else??? The laughs are more appropriate elsewhere around here
Nope only him and the op. The Americans would not start off a post with RV will smoke the euros at mxon, we are still thinking SX
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carlosmacho 4/9/2012 10:25am
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mccread wrote:
Herlings has already beaten Villopoto at the Des Nations... did it last year on a hard pack track. RV will be fast at Lommel and should...
Herlings has already beaten Villopoto at the Des Nations... did it last year on a hard pack track.

RV will be fast at Lommel and should be a contender. Hard to know who will win. Can Herlings beat him again? of course. RV could beat him too... it's motocross.
moto282 wrote:
You and I have different recollections of who won MX3 last year. Results show that RV won. Motocross is two motos McGPdy. But continue to spin...
You and I have different recollections of who won MX3 last year. Results show that RV won. Motocross is two motos McGPdy. But continue to spin the results to fit your agenda as usual. I'd bet when/if Herlings beats any of the American riders the MXDNs won't be a "one-off exhibition" race anymore. All of a sudden it will matter and prove things. Carry on...
jamma10 wrote:
Is Mccread spinning it when he says Herlings beat Villopoto in one moto, or are you spinning it by saying he had to beat him in...
Is Mccread spinning it when he says Herlings beat Villopoto in one moto, or are you spinning it by saying he had to beat him in both races for it to count?
Isn't that how it works in MX? If this was SX then 1 tace is it. But this motocross of nations where you race 2 motos. Would you declare herlings a winner i f he won one moto and Caroli was the overall. No. That is why mccreede is just trolling
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BR_HERO 4/9/2012 10:25am
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What is it with euros and Lommel? It's a sand track, we get it, we have them in the U.S. too.Quit acting like it was built by satanist martyrs who will swallow riders from the gates of hell who aren't named Herling.
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mohammed 4/9/2012 10:26am
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Yanks call southwick a sand track,thats a joke. come see lommel and you will know what a sand track is. I doubt they will podium if they show up. AC is a beast in sand and so is herling.
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BR_HERO wrote:
What is it with euros and Lommel? It's a sand track, we get it, we have them in the U.S. too.Quit acting like it was built...
What is it with euros and Lommel? It's a sand track, we get it, we have them in the U.S. too.Quit acting like it was built by satanist martyrs who will swallow riders from the gates of hell who aren't named Herling.
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TDeath21 4/9/2012 11:01am
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mohammed wrote:
Yanks call southwick a sand track,thats a joke. come see lommel and you will know what a sand track is. I doubt they will podium if...
Yanks call southwick a sand track,thats a joke. come see lommel and you will know what a sand track is. I doubt they will podium if they show up. AC is a beast in sand and so is herling.
Saying they won't win is one thing, but to say the 7 time defending champions won't podium is just laughable. It's the roughest sand track that the US will race on all year, but to say that Villopoto and Dungey aren't good in the sand is just funny. A good rider is a good rider. They have their better surfaces and what not, but their ability doesn't drop off all that significantly on a different surface.

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BR_HERO 4/9/2012 11:08am
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BR_HERO wrote:
What is it with euros and Lommel? It's a sand track, we get it, we have them in the U.S. too.Quit acting like it was built...
What is it with euros and Lommel? It's a sand track, we get it, we have them in the U.S. too.Quit acting like it was built by satanist martyrs who will swallow riders from the gates of hell who aren't named Herling.
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Pay for my trip out there, lend me a bike, and you can take as many videos/pics as you want. Send me your email address if you're serious, i would love to go.

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Camp332 4/9/2012 11:11am
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^ BR_HERO is the toughest guy around. Watch out!

Keyboard clowns...
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BR_HERO 4/9/2012 11:16am
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^ BR_HERO is the toughest guy around. Watch out!

Keyboard clowns...
The hell are you talking about? The guy offered me a chance to come to mxdn plus ride, i said pay for the trip and he can take as many videos/pics of me as he wants to make a mockery out of me, i wouldn't care.. How is that being a tough guy?

Talk about keyboard warrior.
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Camp332 4/9/2012 11:19am
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I just said you were the toughest guy around. Geez.
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moto282 wrote:
You and I have different recollections of who won MX3 last year. Results show that RV won. Motocross is two motos McGPdy. But continue to spin...
You and I have different recollections of who won MX3 last year. Results show that RV won. Motocross is two motos McGPdy. But continue to spin the results to fit your agenda as usual. I'd bet when/if Herlings beats any of the American riders the MXDNs won't be a "one-off exhibition" race anymore. All of a sudden it will matter and prove things. Carry on...
jamma10 wrote:
Is Mccread spinning it when he says Herlings beat Villopoto in one moto, or are you spinning it by saying he had to beat him in...
Is Mccread spinning it when he says Herlings beat Villopoto in one moto, or are you spinning it by saying he had to beat him in both races for it to count?
carlosmacho wrote:
Isn't that how it works in MX? If this was SX then 1 tace is it. But this motocross of nations where you race 2 motos...
Isn't that how it works in MX? If this was SX then 1 tace is it. But this motocross of nations where you race 2 motos. Would you declare herlings a winner i f he won one moto and Caroli was the overall. No. That is why mccreede is just trolling
Spin it however you like,its irrelevant to the OP (who's caught a few here),Herlings was absolutely incredible today,Ive seen MX for 30-40 years and never seen anyone ride sand like that,if DC said he'd be a handful last year when he saw him there,it'd be brave to bet against him cleaning up at Lommel

Again,twist it to your individual agenda regarding Moto wins,Overall wins etc you could even say championships,RD won a SX race ths year but RV won overall,does that mean RD hasn't beaten RV??

Herlings has beaten RV in a heads up race from startgate to the chequered flag,RV got a bad start but there you go,he didn't crash out,fair play to Herlings,that was more hardpack or regular Moto,but Lommel should favour him more,however anything can happen,the MXdN is a unique event
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cpj36 4/9/2012 12:22pm
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cpj36 wrote:
As with Roczen last year, we'll have to wait and see what happens when he isn't in a class won by 15-16 years olds.
jamma10 wrote:
Alternatively, you could search your desolate soul and give a talented 17 year old Dutch kid just a slither of credit?
I did actually but in my mind a slither of credit doesn't quite =smoking RV like a cheap cigar

I'm just not ready to heap it on him like you guys did with Anstie, Roczen, and who ever else was set to dominate.

Roczen may get it done but not because he's a "world" champion but because he's facing much tougher competition now and getting better because of it. The time he spent getting beat in the U.S. as an amateur helped him win that title and now getting beat as a pro will help him win an AMA title.
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sozo 4/9/2012 12:37pm
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St Ann More wrote:
I hope he's 100% going into Lommel - he's going to smoke RV like a cheap cigar!
TMV wrote:
The dude was born in the sand, tough to be faster than a marlin in the water...
Ummmm... Villo lives here in Florida and rides in sand every day...
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therealjonon 4/9/2012 12:44pm
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this thread reeks of fishing....

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BKoonts 4/9/2012 12:49pm
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Wow, all of this national pride is pretty...uh...GAY. We are adults here, no? Why do we act like our country's performance in a motocross race really means anything? It doesn't amount to a hill of beans. You guys really need to look into what's important in life. And really, the Anti-American sentiment is kinda sickening. What have we as a nation ever done to any of you other than help? Lommel, Lommel, Lommel, it is a motocross track. You people revere it like it's sacred ground. I hope the U.S.A. goes and gets it's ass kicked. Then you people will have something to celebrate. Can we move on if you guys are given your chance to gloat and rub our noses in it?
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Katoom72 4/9/2012 12:58pm
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St Ann More wrote:
I hope he's 100% going into Lommel - he's going to smoke RV like a cheap cigar!
TMV wrote:
The dude was born in the sand, tough to be faster than a marlin in the water...
sozo wrote:
Ummmm... Villo lives here in Florida and rides in sand every day...
You clearly never ridden Lommel....
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MX_er424 4/9/2012 2:38pm
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"I still think team USA will win because no other country is big enough to have three top tier rider, bar maybe france." - mcdipshit
"Talk about embarassing yourself with ignorance and blind patriotism lol" - mcdipshit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_area

Shut the fuck up already you stupid fuck.

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