What happend to the 350's?

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Edited Date/Time 1/21/2012 12:56pm
Remember awhile ago a bunch of people including TFS said that they were changing 450's to 350's and even after showing proof the OEMS would not make them they still defended it well where are these 350's and when are they coming out?
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7/2/2008 2:51pm
Whitlock ate the prototypes.
7/2/2008 2:52pm
still in the works...FIM said 350's by 2010-12 i beleive
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7/2/2008 2:59pm
will it just be one big 350 class or will there still be another class
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7/2/2008 3:14pm
Never going to happen. tfs does not ride or race. Stop believing his crap. He got himself thrown out of the entire sport. Talk about getting "clicked". lol

When nascar, drag racing, even saturday night stock car racing, etc, decides to race sub 95db vehicles then the US will start caring about sub 95db motocross bikes.

The big 4 sell at least 3 times more mx bikes in the us vs the rest of the world. If you listen closely you can still hear the japenese engineers laughing at the idea of a 350.

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7/2/2008 3:16pm
Man I hope they do, after riding my ported big bore 250f I think 350 would be the perfect size. They could reformat it like this...for outdoors that is, for sx just the 250f's and 350f's

Outdoors
Lites - 250f
MX - 350f
Open - 450f - Would be a good support class for privateers w/o the dough to run highly modded bikes like the factories and still be able to prove themselves also good in case they are too big for a 250f
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7/2/2008 3:20pm
supercross 250f
outdoors 350f
and run everyone in one big class
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Man I hope they do, after riding my ported big bore 250f I think 350 would be the perfect size. They [i]could[/i] reformat it like this...for...
Man I hope they do, after riding my ported big bore 250f I think 350 would be the perfect size. They could reformat it like this...for outdoors that is, for sx just the 250f's and 350f's

Outdoors
Lites - 250f
MX - 350f
Open - 450f - Would be a good support class for privateers w/o the dough to run highly modded bikes like the factories and still be able to prove themselves also good in case they are too big for a 250f
After riding my ported high comprssion crf450 and still wanting more I would have to call FAG on anything less except for sx use which is FAG only to begin with.

Indoors
One class. FAG only. Open displacement.


Outdoors
One class. Heterosexual only. Open displacement.

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7/2/2008 3:37pm
Never gonna happen.
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7/2/2008 4:03pm
It seems crazy to sell thousands of 450s and then make them illegal. From a marketing standpoint it's hard to sell a reduction in displacement as being an improvement to a horsepower-happy public:

"THE RMZ IS BACK, AND IT'S SHRIMPIER AND SLOWER!"

Meh.....
7/2/2008 5:33pm
they took the shit to the can.
kinda like we should do with anyone who wants the 350s
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7/2/2008 5:34pm
still in the works...FIM said 350's by 2010-12 i beleive
There will not be any oil left by then. They better hurry.
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7/2/2008 5:42pm
rocrac wrote:
Whitlock ate the prototypes.
LMFAO!!!!


oh wait...TFS never said that...just like he said he never said the other shit. afuckingmazing...
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Evans wrote:
will it just be one big 350 class or will there still be another class
I can actually believe LN and all SX entities going back to a 2 stroke...maybe a 350 2 stroke at that. 450 fo bangers suck for sx...racing blows.
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7/2/2008 5:49pm
Who's this TFS person? Is he some Youthstream guy?
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Think GLOBAL!!
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7/2/2008 6:24pm
TFS Still says its gonna happen. Regardless what the Factorys said.

Dont bring this up anymore or he will park his stinky RV out in front of my house again.
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7/2/2008 6:45pm
vet954 wrote:
After riding my ported high comprssion crf450 and still wanting more I would have to call FAG on anything less except for sx use which is...
After riding my ported high comprssion crf450 and still wanting more I would have to call FAG on anything less except for sx use which is FAG only to begin with.

Indoors
One class. FAG only. Open displacement.


Outdoors
One class. Heterosexual only. Open displacement.

Yeah, whatever dude!! If you were really good enough and fast enough that a ported 450F was not enough for you, we would see you placing top 10 in the Nationals. 450F's stock have more power than 90% of the people riding them will ever use. I call BS on your statement!!
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7/2/2008 6:50pm
jeeeeeeeeez----wouldnt it be nice if it all went back to the 125"s and 250's,,, it was all still so much more simple then-----let the 450 run in the open class--(oh i forgot, there is no such animal anymore)---still love the 80 class though,,, no drama in it, just good clean smelling racing
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Did he let the "black water" tank loose in the driveway again ??
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vet954 wrote:
After riding my ported high comprssion crf450 and still wanting more I would have to call FAG on anything less except for sx use which is...
After riding my ported high comprssion crf450 and still wanting more I would have to call FAG on anything less except for sx use which is FAG only to begin with.

Indoors
One class. FAG only. Open displacement.


Outdoors
One class. Heterosexual only. Open displacement.

Wow .... listen to the tough guy.

A regular ruff, tuff cream puff.



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7/2/2008 9:21pm
vet954 wrote:
After riding my ported high comprssion crf450 and still wanting more I would have to call FAG on anything less except for sx use which is...
After riding my ported high comprssion crf450 and still wanting more I would have to call FAG on anything less except for sx use which is FAG only to begin with.

Indoors
One class. FAG only. Open displacement.


Outdoors
One class. Heterosexual only. Open displacement.

race wrote:
Wow .... listen to the tough guy. A regular ruff, tuff cream puff. [img]http://www.arsydd.btinternet.co.uk/pics/creampuff.jpg[/img]
Wow .... listen to the tough guy.

A regular ruff, tuff cream puff.



Stealing FTE's stuff?
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7/2/2008 9:26pm
vet954 wrote:
After riding my ported high comprssion crf450 and still wanting more I would have to call FAG on anything less except for sx use which is...
After riding my ported high comprssion crf450 and still wanting more I would have to call FAG on anything less except for sx use which is FAG only to begin with.

Indoors
One class. FAG only. Open displacement.


Outdoors
One class. Heterosexual only. Open displacement.

Wow ....look at you, maybe you should be teaching some of the pro's how ride there, whiskey throttle.....

I guess a needing more than porting and high comp piston on a 450 would be great for someone that uses 1/4 of the throttle.... moron
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7/2/2008 9:30pm
I thought I remember hearing about a KTM SX350 that was supposed to be released for '09.
7/2/2008 9:31pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2008 9:32pm
123 wrote:
I thought I remember hearing about a KTM SX350 that was supposed to be released for '09.
awesome a 350 2 stroke!!!
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7/2/2008 9:41pm
Mutt wrote:
Stealing FTE's stuff?
I would wager that I was checking out the work of Griffin, Clay Wilson and Crumb long before FTE.

Still have some of the originals from when I got them in the late 60s. I just wish I had kept my collection of concert posters.



7/2/2008 10:08pm
jeeeeeeeeez----wouldnt it be nice if it all went back to the 125"s and 250's,,, it was all still so much more simple then-----let the 450 run...
jeeeeeeeeez----wouldnt it be nice if it all went back to the 125"s and 250's,,, it was all still so much more simple then-----let the 450 run in the open class--(oh i forgot, there is no such animal anymore)---still love the 80 class though,,, no drama in it, just good clean smelling racing
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I'm still here, who tossed me where and when did they do it? Smile

The US market train wreck had more to do with the 350 delay than pissed off managers. The US side was "fuck off with the 350 idea, we are kicking ass with 450s." and the Japanese said "bullshit, you are losing money on those too!" With the exchange rate down, they really do lose money on MX bikes, which is why racing money is drying up so fast.

On the other hand the exchange rate is working in Europe's favor. They don't sell as many but they make more money. Euros are not whining about 350s as much as the US guys were, so its only a matter of time. The money losers can't tell the money makers what to do.

The 350s are coming, just not on the same schedule.

There are other interesting displacement changes for the US under discussion for SX, but I might wait until you people can the attitude before I tell ya about them!
7/2/2008 10:36pm
Sinbad wrote:
Remember awhile ago a bunch of people including TFS said that they were changing 450's to 350's and even after showing proof the OEMS would not...
Remember awhile ago a bunch of people including TFS said that they were changing 450's to 350's and even after showing proof the OEMS would not make them they still defended it well where are these 350's and when are they coming out?
They also said that it was a buncha BS too. Although I do believe that eventually it may happen.
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The US managers were doing the bitching, but the US market tanked and they dont matter as much right now.
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7/2/2008 10:48pm
dude a 350 four banger would the shizzle dont crush me by sayin it was all lies i have sooo been waiting for an efi rmz 350 it gets me so hard a cat couldnt scratch it

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