Nascar. Really???

TerryK
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Edited Date/Time 3/4/2012 12:27pm
Just flipping channels and I see a fireball at the Daytona 500. Turns out in Nascar it's quite alright to run close to race speeds when safety vehicles are on the track, hence when JPM's car broke he slid sideways into the track dryer being driven very slowly on the top of the track. So Nascar fans, please explain to me how the rules work that allow a driver to pass safety vehicles at 150mph. Insanity.

What pisses me off even more is that everyone they talk to on the race team is whining about how it's such a shame because they had such a great race car blah blah. Little mention of concern for the driver of the safety vehicle.
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2/27/2012 7:33pm
They said he (the driver) was "helped down the track bank".....fuck that! I'd of been running/rolling as fast as I could move!!
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2/27/2012 10:10pm
The Joke 500? lol

Jason Weigandt pretty much summed it up with his comments
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2/27/2012 10:46pm
it was a freak accident never has happened before and doubt he was going 150 under yellow they were concerned about it and its not really a joke there way better then indy cars and formula one
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2/27/2012 10:58pm
burba437 wrote:
it was a freak accident never has happened before and doubt he was going 150 under yellow they were concerned about it and its not really...
it was a freak accident never has happened before and doubt he was going 150 under yellow they were concerned about it and its not really a joke there way better then indy cars and formula one
Yeah I bet they are

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2/28/2012 4:35am
There was plenty of concern about the truck driver.

I doubt he was going 150 either, and he was all the way down at the yellow stripe.

It was a freak deal.
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2/28/2012 5:06am
burba437 wrote:
it was a freak accident never has happened before and doubt he was going 150 under yellow they were concerned about it and its not really...
it was a freak accident never has happened before and doubt he was going 150 under yellow they were concerned about it and its not really a joke there way better then indy cars and formula one
You're kidding right ? NAPCAR is way better than F1 ?. I'd rather watch golf than that complete joke of a series.
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2/28/2012 6:43am
bultokid wrote:
You're kidding right ? NAPCAR is way better than F1 ?. I'd rather watch golf than that complete joke of a series.
haha i dont gwt why people like car that if they tap the slightest the cars destroyed ot nascar where they acctually race hmmm golf people are jokes these days hahah
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2/28/2012 6:52am
burba437 wrote:
it was a freak accident never has happened before and doubt he was going 150 under yellow they were concerned about it and its not really...
it was a freak accident never has happened before and doubt he was going 150 under yellow they were concerned about it and its not really a joke there way better then indy cars and formula one
Yes there way better.
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2/28/2012 7:00am
I watched an F1 race one time, it was run on Thanksgiving day and I think it was sponsored by Macy's.
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2/28/2012 7:05am
bultokid wrote:
You're kidding right ? NAPCAR is way better than F1 ?. I'd rather watch golf than that complete joke of a series.
burba437 wrote:
haha i dont gwt why people like car that if they tap the slightest the cars destroyed ot nascar where they acctually race hmmm golf people...
haha i dont gwt why people like car that if they tap the slightest the cars destroyed ot nascar where they acctually race hmmm golf people are jokes these days hahah
Translation?



Anyone?
2/28/2012 8:12am
That's what happens when a nascar driver tries to turn right.
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2/28/2012 8:16am
bultokid wrote:
You're kidding right ? NAPCAR is way better than F1 ?. I'd rather watch golf than that complete joke of a series.
I honestly, and I mean honestly tried to watch that last 30/40 laps of that race after the big-fire from the jet-dry truck. But Im sorry, that stuff is so fricking boring its like watching paint dry. Seriously. I know theres millions who love it and more power to them, but Id rather scrape mud off a sprint car as a pit helper on a saturday night than sit on my ass and be put to sleep by that stuff.
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2/28/2012 8:23am
I'm sure Tide liked the 5 minute ad they got. Now that's how you rep a sponsor.
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Reason number 136854316 to have stricter immigration laws in the US........

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2/28/2012 9:25am
Bob693 wrote:
I watched an F1 race one time, it was run on Thanksgiving day and I think it was sponsored by Macy's.
Guess I'm the only one that found that funny.
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2/28/2012 11:12am
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2/28/2012 11:20am Edited Date/Time 2/28/2012 11:20am
bultokid wrote:
You're kidding right ? NAPCAR is way better than F1 ?. I'd rather watch golf than that complete joke of a series.
burba437 wrote:
haha i dont gwt why people like car that if they tap the slightest the cars destroyed ot nascar where they acctually race hmmm golf people...
haha i dont gwt why people like car that if they tap the slightest the cars destroyed ot nascar where they acctually race hmmm golf people are jokes these days hahah
vet323 wrote:
Translation?



Anyone?
let me try.... rubbing is racing and Nascar is real racing, golf is for the Lawrence Welk set . Alternate translation... "I'm so high" -towelie.
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2/28/2012 11:39am
Even NASCAR understands that their form of racing can get tedious, which is why they focus on marketing the drivers. Fans & followers of the sport end up gravitating towards a particular personality behind the wheel, and NASCAR has been very effective at putting these individuals in front of the public. The flags & shirts with 88, 48, 14, or 99 aren't representing the car; they're representing Jr, JJ, Smoke, and Carl.

In F1, on the other hand, the cars are the stars . The Ferrari prancing horse dominates the stands, and the drivers are for the most part interchangable. Bernie & Co back that policy by paying huge bonuses to the manufacturer's championship, leaving the driver's title as basically window dressing.

F1 is also the only motorized sport where qualifying is actually as exciting, if not more so, than the actual race. In 2011 there were only 804 total "overtaking maneuvers" (that didn't result in an accident). Talladega alone had 47 lead changes, and likely over 800 total passes. So each form of racing has its set of challenges.
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2/28/2012 8:14pm
On the original topic, I'm still appalled that these guys are allowed to go the speeds they are while there are safety vehicles on the track. It's just not necessary, nor right to put the lives of the track workers on the line just so a driver can make it back around to the lead lap. There's a pit speed limit, why is there not one when there are safety vehicles on-track?

While JPM may not have been going 150 mph, he was close. He said in an interview that he was in 4th gear and accelerating, which can easily be 150mph. And have you noticed that every time the showed the crash they showed it slowed down?

I don't care what anyone says, allowing race cars to "race" to catch up with the field while track workers are on the track is ludicrous and incredibly dangerous. I hope they use this incident to effect a rule change.
2/28/2012 9:32pm
Something broke on the car he shouldn't of been going that fast I'm sure NASCAR will make a rule regarding that. I love all forms of motorsports, F-1, sprints, NASCAR, rally, moto, off road racing. One thing I can't seem to figure out is why so many so called "F1 fans" or "real race fans" feel the need to attack NASCAR. Is it jealousy? Obviously they are doing something right they attract fans from all over, get network tv deals,and races in primetime. Also more people watching NASCAR creates a trickle down effect that benefits many forms of racing even moto.
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Something broke on the car he shouldn't of been going that fast I'm sure NASCAR will make a rule regarding that. I love all forms of...
Something broke on the car he shouldn't of been going that fast I'm sure NASCAR will make a rule regarding that. I love all forms of motorsports, F-1, sprints, NASCAR, rally, moto, off road racing. One thing I can't seem to figure out is why so many so called "F1 fans" or "real race fans" feel the need to attack NASCAR. Is it jealousy? Obviously they are doing something right they attract fans from all over, get network tv deals,and races in primetime. Also more people watching NASCAR creates a trickle down effect that benefits many forms of racing even moto.
I'm not attacking nascar, but I am attacking the fact that they allow this kind of thing to happen.
2/29/2012 8:30am
Well I think if they could forsee JPM slamming into a jet dryer they would do something to avoid it. My issue is with the driver, if he left the pits knowing something was wrong with his race car what was he doing going that fast? Its not NASCAR driving the car its Juan Pablo Montoya, he knew they were under yellow, he knew there was an issue with his car, he knew where the safety vehicles and dryers where. He made a decision that wasn't safe and this is what happened, luckily no one was killed and I'm sure how fast cars are allowed to go when catching up to the field under caution will be looked at closer.
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3/3/2012 10:52pm
We were working a NASCAR race at TMS in a crash clean-up truck. We hd been dispatched to turn 2 to aid in the clean-up, and were then told to go back around and have another look at the turn1 entry.
With all the equipment and kitty litter on board 75 MPH is flying in those trucks. As we entered 3, I saw Kenseth coming, and before I could blink, he was by us. Buck 50 easy. That was when they were allowing workers to ride in the backs of trucks, and it scared the hell out of me.

A couple of seconds later, Dave from race control comes on the radio and says "Spotter, there are 3 pedals in those cars and I want you to tell the #17 to mash on the middle one".

The point of all this? NASCAR does care about safety, and have rules about catch-up speed. We may see these rules tightenen after last week.
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3/4/2012 12:27pm Edited Date/Time 3/4/2012 12:28pm
Bob693 wrote:
I watched an F1 race one time, it was run on Thanksgiving day and I think it was sponsored by Macy's.
Now thats funny! I love the technical side of F1, the history, the money, the exotic locations they race at, etc. But you are correct. If you only watch the "race" it does look like a parade with the lack of passing.

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