Alessi losing his ride after Colorado??

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aminkman 6/18/2008 7:20pm
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Some really crazy logic being thrown around.
Suppose, for shits and giggles, someone paid you $30,000 a year to use there stuff and someone else said "use our stuff, you can use our bike and we won't pay you anything. Maybe you'll do good on our bike and get noticed or maybe you'll crash your brains out and wind up with nothing.
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Larry 6/18/2008 7:35pm
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aminkman wrote:
Some really crazy logic being thrown around. Suppose, for shits and giggles, someone paid you $30,000 a year to use there stuff and someone else said...
Some really crazy logic being thrown around.
Suppose, for shits and giggles, someone paid you $30,000 a year to use there stuff and someone else said "use our stuff, you can use our bike and we won't pay you anything. Maybe you'll do good on our bike and get noticed or maybe you'll crash your brains out and wind up with nothing.
Well if you were going to be paid 30,000 for doing nothing are you were going to be paid nothing for doing something which one would you take to pay your bills?
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Trinitite 6/18/2008 8:01pm
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The purse money is a joke. It makes the whole sport look like a joke to the outside. I don't care if some tradeoff has to happen, but the purse money needs to be drastically increased if this is to be seen by the general public as a serious sport.
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KAWboy14 6/18/2008 8:14pm
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the reason purse money needs to be BIG:

if the promoters and sanctioning body need to make a ton of money to pay the riders.....they will figure out a way to make it!

the way it is....they dont need anything more than 2 billboards and a string fence to make their money!

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BobbyM 6/18/2008 8:17pm
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KAWboy14 wrote:
the reason purse money needs to be BIG: if the promoters and sanctioning body need to make a ton of money to pay the riders.....they will...
the reason purse money needs to be BIG:

if the promoters and sanctioning body need to make a ton of money to pay the riders.....they will figure out a way to make it!

the way it is....they dont need anything more than 2 billboards and a string fence to make their money!

purse money? you are so right scotty...400 grand is a starting point Smile
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BobbyM 6/18/2008 8:18pm
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Landshark wrote:
Between Tedesco and Townley being hurt all of the time, I would think HRC would have a bike available.
zookrider62 wrote:
I think the Alessis burnt the factory Honda bridge pretty thoroughly.
no they didn't brain boy.
UpTiTe 6/18/2008 10:07pm
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Landshark wrote:
Between Tedesco and Townley being hurt all of the time, I would think HRC would have a bike available.
zookrider62 wrote:
I think the Alessis burnt the factory Honda bridge pretty thoroughly.
BobbyM wrote:
no they didn't brain boy.
I hate when people post and dont really know what they are talking about. Mikey was mighty close to riding a red bike instead of a yellow one this year.
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Motodrew295 6/18/2008 11:30pm
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what happened to the cash flow from KABOOM? Deffinitely more questions than answeres on this one.

I like how he says he and Mike ride the same pace. They were up at Washougal for a well paying local race and Jeff was way off of Mike in a 6 or 7 lap race.
zookrider62 6/19/2008 6:09am
6/19/2008 6:09am
zookrider62 wrote:
I think the Alessis burnt the factory Honda bridge pretty thoroughly.
BobbyM wrote:
no they didn't brain boy.
UpTiTe wrote:
I hate when people post and dont really know what they are talking about. Mikey was mighty close to riding a red bike instead of a...
I hate when people post and dont really know what they are talking about. Mikey was mighty close to riding a red bike instead of a yellow one this year.
My mistake, I guess I just assumed incorrectly.
moto111 6/19/2008 7:37am
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Why dont he like Yoorope and Yooropeens ?
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Motodrew295 wrote:
what happened to the cash flow from KABOOM? Deffinitely more questions than answeres on this one. I like how he says he and Mike ride the...
what happened to the cash flow from KABOOM? Deffinitely more questions than answeres on this one.

I like how he says he and Mike ride the same pace. They were up at Washougal for a well paying local race and Jeff was way off of Mike in a 6 or 7 lap race.
He said they run the same pace during practice, which I hear about all the time from lots of different sources, so I believe it. Read the whole thing before you make dumb posts.
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-eagle- 6/19/2008 7:56am
6/19/2008 7:56am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 7:20pm
All three alessi's were on dmxs last night.
Tony & Jeff break down the entire scenerio.

Alot of things don't add up and then to top it off, Tony Alessi says that sx needs to do away with rhythmn sections.
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-eagle- wrote:
All three alessi's were on dmxs last night. Tony & Jeff break down the entire scenerio. Alot of things don't add up and then to top...
All three alessi's were on dmxs last night.
Tony & Jeff break down the entire scenerio.

Alot of things don't add up and then to top it off, Tony Alessi says that sx needs to do away with rhythmn sections.
It would make the racing better if they did.
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Motodrew295 6/19/2008 2:33pm
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Motodrew295 wrote:
what happened to the cash flow from KABOOM? Deffinitely more questions than answeres on this one. I like how he says he and Mike ride the...
what happened to the cash flow from KABOOM? Deffinitely more questions than answeres on this one.

I like how he says he and Mike ride the same pace. They were up at Washougal for a well paying local race and Jeff was way off of Mike in a 6 or 7 lap race.
mx836 wrote:
He said they run the same pace during practice, which I hear about all the time from lots of different sources, so I believe it. Read...
He said they run the same pace during practice, which I hear about all the time from lots of different sources, so I believe it. Read the whole thing before you make dumb posts.
If he can run his pace in practice then why couldn't he do it a a local race with them running one/two for a short number of laps? I think that would be the perfect situation to be able to shadow Mikey and yet it didn't happen. This isn't hear-say I was there and saw it happen all weekend.
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motokawi818 6/19/2008 2:36pm
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i was there to and drew is right jeff couldn't run with mike
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motokawi818 6/19/2008 2:37pm
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also jeff had a real hard time to beat even some local guys
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englishman 6/19/2008 2:50pm
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Can he ride a horse??
Del mar track is opening in a few weeks maybe he can get a ride there - no rhythmn sections either.
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The deal is that you need to take everything that you do serious. And at that level you better not forget that. I personaly think that the Alessi's are good people. But when you have to start all over why let your son flounder and not help him go forward no matter the cost. Jeff has serious speed thats not the problem. He has to stay focused and get the results and be there when the oppertunity arises with a better deal he can be in a position to take it.

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eurohero 6/19/2008 4:32pm
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gnarwhip wrote:
"He said we could race on his team for free, but we would have to use his gear and boots" So let me get this straight...
"He said we could race on his team for free, but we would have to use his gear and boots"

So let me get this straight: Jeff could race the entire national series for free and possibly put in good enough results to secure a spot on a good team for next year, OR stay loyal to the ugliest helmet and gear in motocross and sit out the rest of the nationals. Yeah good call buddy, way to think things through. OMG
Remember, he signed on for a supercross only deal. His current sponsors came on board and even offered to go outdoors with him just to help. Is that completely wise to burn a bridge and leave them hanging to go race 7 more races? Your quote, "Jeff could race the entire national series." After Colorado, thats only 7 rounds left, almost half the outdoors, not the entire series. Jump ship on life long sponsors that he shares with his brother, just to go finish the outdoors? Never mind the fact that its' for no money, never mind the fact that outdoors pays shit. How much would he stand to lose if Shark and Alpinestars didn't have him on next year?

"Cood call buddy, way to think things through. OMG", thats what you should have done before you posted.
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gnarwhip 6/20/2008 12:07am
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gnarwhip wrote:
"He said we could race on his team for free, but we would have to use his gear and boots" So let me get this straight...
"He said we could race on his team for free, but we would have to use his gear and boots"

So let me get this straight: Jeff could race the entire national series for free and possibly put in good enough results to secure a spot on a good team for next year, OR stay loyal to the ugliest helmet and gear in motocross and sit out the rest of the nationals. Yeah good call buddy, way to think things through. OMG
eurohero wrote:
Remember, he signed on for a supercross only deal. His current sponsors came on board and even offered to go outdoors with him just to help...
Remember, he signed on for a supercross only deal. His current sponsors came on board and even offered to go outdoors with him just to help. Is that completely wise to burn a bridge and leave them hanging to go race 7 more races? Your quote, "Jeff could race the entire national series." After Colorado, thats only 7 rounds left, almost half the outdoors, not the entire series. Jump ship on life long sponsors that he shares with his brother, just to go finish the outdoors? Never mind the fact that its' for no money, never mind the fact that outdoors pays shit. How much would he stand to lose if Shark and Alpinestars didn't have him on next year?

"Cood call buddy, way to think things through. OMG", thats what you should have done before you posted.
Dude that's just my opinion, relax. It just seems this is the best Jeff has done so far in his career, and it seems like if you have a good oppurtinity you should take it when you can... seeing how most rider's window to get on a good team is so small and the rider's careers are so short. Afterall, isn't Jeff considered a better national rider than sx rider? And how many pros have we seen earn a factory ride based on mx skills rather than sx skills? A lot...most racers catch the attention of factory teams from their outdoor results, and THEN they learn sx skills later after they get signed. Just seems to me he should keep the ball rolling and finish the entire national series as best he can to show future teams what he can do... That's just me though.
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-eagle- 6/20/2008 6:27am
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Its a crying shame that in 2008 ANY top 15 rider still has issues like this.
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rocrac 6/20/2008 6:40am
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-eagle- wrote:
Its a crying shame that in 2008 ANY top 15 rider still has issues like this.
X2.
Especially when there are 85cc amateurs winning 4 lap sprint races that are getting full on factory support.
wired4speed 6/20/2008 6:49am
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-eagle- wrote:
Its a crying shame that in 2008 ANY top 15 rider still has issues like this.
You're right. However, Alessi went with the supercross only deal. He has a great outdoor bike. If he wears the team boots and gear he gets to ride for free during everyr round of the outdoor season. He doesn't want to do it and would rather pay the $5000 per race out of his own pocket. He's in a better position than the other "privateers".
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-eagle- wrote:
Its a crying shame that in 2008 ANY top 15 rider still has issues like this.
rocrac wrote:
X2.
Especially when there are 85cc amateurs winning 4 lap sprint races that are getting full on factory support.
And they could beat you on that 85 with you on a 450.
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-eagle- wrote:
Its a crying shame that in 2008 ANY top 15 rider still has issues like this.
rocrac wrote:
X2.
Especially when there are 85cc amateurs winning 4 lap sprint races that are getting full on factory support.
And they could beat you on that 85 with you on a 450.
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Motodrew295 wrote:
what happened to the cash flow from KABOOM? Deffinitely more questions than answeres on this one. I like how he says he and Mike ride the...
what happened to the cash flow from KABOOM? Deffinitely more questions than answeres on this one.

I like how he says he and Mike ride the same pace. They were up at Washougal for a well paying local race and Jeff was way off of Mike in a 6 or 7 lap race.
mx836 wrote:
He said they run the same pace during practice, which I hear about all the time from lots of different sources, so I believe it. Read...
He said they run the same pace during practice, which I hear about all the time from lots of different sources, so I believe it. Read the whole thing before you make dumb posts.
Motodrew295 wrote:
If he can run his pace in practice then why couldn't he do it a a local race with them running one/two for a short number...
If he can run his pace in practice then why couldn't he do it a a local race with them running one/two for a short number of laps? I think that would be the perfect situation to be able to shadow Mikey and yet it didn't happen. This isn't hear-say I was there and saw it happen all weekend.
Why don't you just read the interview. I'm just stating what Jeff said and it has been said by Tony before as well. I don't really care what you saw at your local race.
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BISBEE248 6/20/2008 12:08pm
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alessi's are growing on me,mike is really runnin great this year and jeff has really
stepped it up,love to see mike battle with stewart little longer and i would like to see jeff get some more help even those his mtr's are prob sum of the fastest out there,if they need them tobe that fast (450's r crazy fast already)..
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nc_mx_kid 6/20/2008 12:17pm
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The curious of KTM. I believe that BOTH the Alessi's pro careers would have been alot different if they would have stayed w/ Honda.
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mx836 wrote:
He said they run the same pace during practice, which I hear about all the time from lots of different sources, so I believe it. Read...
He said they run the same pace during practice, which I hear about all the time from lots of different sources, so I believe it. Read the whole thing before you make dumb posts.
Motodrew295 wrote:
If he can run his pace in practice then why couldn't he do it a a local race with them running one/two for a short number...
If he can run his pace in practice then why couldn't he do it a a local race with them running one/two for a short number of laps? I think that would be the perfect situation to be able to shadow Mikey and yet it didn't happen. This isn't hear-say I was there and saw it happen all weekend.
mx836 wrote:
Why don't you just read the interview. I'm just stating what Jeff said and it has been said by Tony before as well. I don't really...
Why don't you just read the interview. I'm just stating what Jeff said and it has been said by Tony before as well. I don't really care what you saw at your local race.
jeff USED to be faster than mikey...

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